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what is the matter w/ verizon??????????

osiejay73

Sep 25, 2005, 1:23 PM
I'm soo frustrated!!! I have been waiting and waiting for verizon to step up their selection of phones, but they still are slacking!!!! All of the other carriers have huge seletions of phones with a varity of features and sizes. Verizons phones are still huge and bulky! Their new line up of phones is almost worse than there phones now! The samsung 970,850, 630 are all an inch or more thick!! While other carriers have phones that are .85 inches deep. With the exeception of the Razr, all of Verizon's new phones to be released are pieces of S***! This is soo frustrating, can't verizon just step it up already!???!
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gunny

Sep 25, 2005, 1:31 PM
osiejay73 said:
I'm soo frustrated!!! I have been waiting and waiting for verizon to step up their selection of phones, but they still are slacking!!!! All of the other carriers have huge seletions of phones with a varity of features and sizes. Verizons phones are still huge and bulky! Their new line up of phones is almost worse than there phones now! The samsung 970,850, 630 are all an inch or more thick!! While other carriers have phones that are .85 inches deep. With the exeception of the Razr, all of Verizon's new phones to be released are pieces of S***! This is soo frustrating, can't verizon just step it up already!???!



Rants like yours are so played out.
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osiejay73

Sep 25, 2005, 1:41 PM
what's that supposed to mean?
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BetterThanJake

Sep 25, 2005, 1:50 PM
It means you're boring and no one cares. πŸ™„
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gunny

Sep 25, 2005, 2:13 PM
osiejay73 said:
what's that supposed to mean?


You do know Verizon is getting the Motorola Q?

It’s very thin

Hope that helps with your thin phone needs

Why stick with verizon when you can enjoy all the cool phones cingular has πŸ™„
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osiejay73

Sep 25, 2005, 4:48 PM
gunny said:

Why stick with verizon when you can enjoy all the cool phones cingular has πŸ™„


Thanks for your input and the reason i'm staying with verizon is because it does have good reception, and that is where my mom chose to sign up.
And by the way i don't appreciate being talked to rudely when i was only expressing my opinion
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VZW_insider

Sep 25, 2005, 5:50 PM
Your complaining about people talking to you rudely when your only expressing your opinion, but your opinion is expressed in the most inconsiderate manner. You think Verizon got where they are by listening to people who complain their phone is super thin, absolutely not. Verizon Wireless phones work.. that's not to say there aren't bad models that make it to the showroom floor, but the only reason they make it is because Verizon is trying to appease some of the customers. Let's look at the 8600 from Audiovox, notably one of the smallest phones ever, the Razr is like 3 times the size. However, the 8600 was one of the worst phones we ever carried, reception was horrible, the screens shorted out. What's the point when the phone doesn't work. Th...
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jinx7676

Sep 25, 2005, 8:35 PM
VZW_insider said:
We have VCAST/MP3 phones that give you more of a choice than the ROKR (I'm not saying the ROKR's not sweet, it's the only phone you can use for ITUNES, but still, it's only one), samll pictures phones, non camera phones, PDA/Blackberry's, push to talk. How options can you really want. Sure Cingular carries tons of Motorola models, they all look the same with the exception of the RAZR.


5 motos isn't really a ton. and for looks, the 180/220 are similar (one cam, one without) the 551 is way different than those, the ROKR is a bar, and the V3 is different from all those. just an observation.

as far as choices, Cingular also has all the same categories you listed, (albeit PTT is a few we...
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BetterThanJake

Sep 25, 2005, 10:35 PM
To be fair, Verizon is about to release a phone with uncrippled bluetooth (Nokia 6256i)... hopefully a sign of things to come.

Far as MobiTV goes, well, you go to their site and there's only two Cingular phones that are listed as being capable of a 'high framerate experience'. All the others are listed as 'low framerate experience'. MobiTV's words, not mine.

Meanwhile, Verizon has nine phones either out or coming soon that are EVDO/VCAST capable. Sounds like more choices, if you're not willing to go the 'low framerate' route, whatever that is.
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pete1660

Sep 27, 2005, 3:00 PM
If you want to watch tv, why would you bother watching on your phone...that's what my big screen is for. Oh yeah, what's the cost PER channel for those services. I know v-cast is 15 a month w/ unlimited mobile web, which if you're in v-cast areas, you're surfing at close to DSL speeds.
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themike314

Sep 25, 2005, 6:25 PM
osiejay73 said:
...and that is where my mom chose to sign up.


Maybe you should have your mommy call and complain.

If you're really unhappy with the selection of phones, get your own line with the carrier of your choice.
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Boulderboy

Sep 25, 2005, 6:32 PM
like some others did not.

There is a way to get a nice slim phone but it is expensive.

www.wirelessimports.com

They have CDMA razrs and other really nice phones that Verizon will probably never offer in my lifetime.

Hope this helps some.
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Kampfer422

Sep 25, 2005, 2:09 PM
Besides this being one of those stupid pointless bickering rants from consumers who care more about how it looks than anything, VZW has very nice phones like the 815, the 9800 coming up, 710, and the new Samsung V Cast phones that are being shown over the internet. The Pazr is actually more of a POS than any phone i've ever seen since when i worked at Cingular it was one of the most returned and serviced phones at the time. Also if you didn't know, VZW does offer most of the competitor phones as they are POS's and don't pass quality control. Ever use a Sanyo or Sony Ericcson? Theres a worthless paperweight of a phone. But i think you should go to TMobile and use their services so you can have a cool phone, enjoy their service πŸ™„
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daddydogg_00

Sep 25, 2005, 8:30 PM
Good point. I think we sometimes forget that phones are really meant to be used for talking so as long as the phone gets a good signal what does it matter. Personally give me good reception and bluetooth and I will be happy. Anyways you go with CDMA for call quality not the latest phones cuz GSM will always get those. I want phones that work and that is why I am not with GSM or even Sprint for that matter but I would choose Verizon any day of the week in a market Alltel is not located in!!!
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Anxiovert

Sep 26, 2005, 1:10 AM
daddydogg_00 said:
Good point. I think we sometimes forget that phones are really meant to be used for talking so as long as the phone gets a good signal what does it matter. Personally give me good reception and bluetooth and I will be happy. Anyways you go with CDMA for call quality not the latest phones cuz GSM will always get those. I want phones that work and that is why I am not with GSM or even Sprint for that matter but I would choose Verizon any day of the week in a market Alltel is not located in!!!


This is why I left VZW. VZW have all of you brain-washed. Their poor selection of phone. Cust complains about VZW phones (cuz they suck) and the only thing that comes out of their mouths is "but it wo...
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daddydogg_00

Sep 26, 2005, 7:14 AM
How am I brainwashed by Verizon? I have never even used them as my carrier or even sold them for that matter. Like I said GSM gets better phones due to proliferation in Europe and all american cell companies get them much later but CDMA carriers tend to get them even later. But hey Verizon and Alltel were two of the first to start rolling out 3g networks,of course Sprint was first , but no gsm carrier has phones for this 3g data as of this moment.
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Bigbmc26

Sep 25, 2005, 10:03 PM
Kampfer422 said:
Ever use a Sanyo or Sony Ericcson? Theres a worthless paperweight of a phone.


What!? πŸ˜• where did you get your info. Sony Ericsson makes some of the best phone on the market. Sony's are now only second to Nokia's in RF on a GSM network. Sanyo's are top rated as well. you might wanna do some research before you make stupid comments that are based on nothing. Motorola makes nothing but s*&t! I have an s710 and haven't dropped a call in months. the z500 is a great phone too. I know because i sell them everyday and they don't come back like LGs and Motos!
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Cellgenius

Sep 25, 2005, 8:47 PM
Does size matter. In my store you are the minority. Most of my customers say that phones are too small to handle. Fine if you want to drop big $$ on something that does not do much like the Razr
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mobilepassion73

Sep 25, 2005, 8:54 PM
Cellgenius said:
Does size matter. In my store you are the minority. Most of my customers say that phones are too small to handle. Fine if you want to drop big $$ on something that does not do much like the Razr


I think that a smaller size would appeal more to the teenage and young adult population, but older people would be more interested in stability and easy to use features. It just depends.
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osiejay73

Sep 25, 2005, 8:49 PM
look i'm sry if i ticked anyone off, that wasn't my intentions, i was just mad and felt like posting my frustrations. I didn't realize how opinionated some of you are. Didn't mean to offend anyone. Sry
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norollovermin

Sep 25, 2005, 10:58 PM
This is a good example why people always jump the boat on Verizon. They love us to death, then let one thing really get to them (eh hem.. phone selection, they don't read a little thing called a contract, or didn't think they would need insurance) then go to Cingy, or T-immobile. Once I'd say... 3-5 days pass... they crawl back on both knees to wanting to come back to VZW. Now I am not saying you are one of those people.. but what I am saying is.. It is a CELL PHONE!! Just a stinking CELL PHONE. You want a game boy.. go buy a game boy!! you want an MP3 player, go buy an Ipod. If you want a cell phone... a phone that is reliable, and works.. VZW is the place to be.

People like that give a whole new meaning the word Winback! 🀣

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NotEnoughFood

Sep 26, 2005, 2:26 AM
But if you can get a Gameboy and an ipod built in to a phone. why not?
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blue2kzr2

Sep 26, 2005, 7:38 AM
Because the one device won't perform ALL the functions WELL. The devices designed to perform those functions will perform them WELL, but if you want a good picture and easy access to the pics taken, buy a camera, not a camera phone. Want good sound quality and easy file transfer to/from it from an MP3 player, buy an MP3 player not an MP3-capable phone.

I haven't tried it yet, but my E815 has a TF card slot, it can play MP3s right off the card. I'm not sure if I can save a pic I've taken directly to the card, but it seems like it would be easy to do. Transferring pics to the card after the fact appears to be unreliable. Also, the camera isn't great, but I have a 4 MP digicam for taking pics.
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kvazzz

Sep 26, 2005, 1:06 PM
Just a tiny, little correction...

Does any of you played NEED FOR SPEED 2 on your cell? How about Ghost Recon? No? What about Madden 06? Oh, and of course you've played MULTIPLAYER game, like Asphalt Urban GT...

for you ppl to check out:

http://getitnow-origin.vzwshop.com/vcast.games.home.do »

Almost all these games are available on E815. Oh yeah, It works like a champ with TF card as MP3 player.

Now, let me just remind you IT'S A CELLPHONE. can your cellphone do that?

ps. Oh, BTW my favorite game is Tony Hawk's Pro Skater - looks pretty close to PS1 version.
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BetterThanJake

Sep 26, 2005, 1:23 PM
NotEnoughFood said:
But if you can get a Gameboy and an ipod built in to a phone. why not?

Because you're not really getting a Gameboy and an iPod built into your phone. You're getting more like a shadow of a Gameboy and an iPod built-into your phone. There's always going to be a trade-off between 'jack of all trades, master of none' multifunction devices and devices that do only one thing, but do it extremely well (like iPods and Gameboys do).

But there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a multifunction advice, so long as you're aware that its a trade-off and don't expect a gaming or music experience as good as what a single function device can give you.

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Al_Swearengen

Sep 26, 2005, 1:47 PM
Well you're absolutely incorrect about the iPod phone. It is just as good as any other iPod. The only difference is the small space for music(512mb). And that limitation is only because of the memory card size. Future models are supposed to hold more. Other than that it works just like anyother iPod. Honestly though, I'm not even a real big fan of iPod. I have been using my cell as a music player for a couple of years no and see no need to get a separate device. Plus with my cell phone, I can just transfer the mp3s to my phone for free(no need to pay for iPod service).
I'd also like to point out that Bill Gates thinks you are wrong too. He was recently quoted as saying that the 'future of portable music players is in music phones'. He sees ...
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BetterThanJake

Sep 26, 2005, 3:21 PM
Al_Swearengen said:
Well you're absolutely incorrect about the iPod phone. It is just as good as any other iPod. The only difference is the small space for music(512mb). And that limitation is only because of the memory card size. Future models are supposed to hold more. Other than that it works just like anyother iPod.

Actually, some sources are reporting that the ROKR is firmware limited to 100 songs, regardless of memory card size.

And 'just like an iPod'? Really? Does it have the iPod's ultra-easy-to-use click wheel? No. Can you wear it on a lanyard around your neck or on an armband while you work out for easy access? No. How about battery life like an iPod's? No again. Well okay... does it at lea...
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jinx7676

Sep 26, 2005, 6:17 PM
BetterThanJake said:

And 'just like an iPod'? Really? Does it have the iPod's ultra-easy-to-use click wheel? No.


no, but it DOES have a search feature, which the iPod DOES NOT have, and if you ask any iPod user, they will most likely tell you this is a GREAT add-on.

BetterThanJake said:
Can you wear it on a lanyard around your neck or on an armband while you work out for easy access? No.


yes, the accessory to do this is sold in stores.
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BetterThanJake

Sep 26, 2005, 6:25 PM
C'mon Jinx, lets be real here... NO ONE or very close to no one is going to be ditching their iPods for ROKR.

In fact, the CEO of Motorola, Ed Zander, is so pissed about the launch of the iPod Nano totally overshadowing the ROKR's launch (both were unveiled at the same Apple Event by Steve Jobs) that he said "screw the Nano!" in public during a leadership seminar:

http://www.ipodobserver.com/story/23693 »

Way to make Apple your buddy there, Ed. 😳
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jinx7676

Sep 27, 2005, 11:45 AM
i didn't say it is a replacement, all i said is you can do the same things with it (besides capacity). if someone wanted to work out or go for a jog with it instead of an iPod, they could, and they could still be reachable if they needed to be. i mean 100 songs is roughly 350-400 mins, so unless you are a freak, that should last you for a workout or a few mile jog, or even a 4 or 5 hour roadtrip.
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johnnyslick

Sep 27, 2005, 2:17 PM
Well, no, the point of only 100 songs is that you can't store your entire collection on one device like you can with a regular iPod. 100 songs is roughly what? 8 albums? That's really not as much as you think it is.

Anyway, Bill Gates may well be right about the multi-use handsets, but IMO in order to work they're going to need to be like personal computers: you'll need to be able to pull components out and put them in. As it stands now, if your phone's music player becomes obsolete, you pretty much have to buy a new one regardless of how well the camera or the phone itself actually works.
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Al_Swearengen

Sep 27, 2005, 5:06 PM
johnnyslick said:
Well, no, the point of only 100 songs is that you can't store your entire collection on one device like you can with a regular iPod. 100 songs is roughly what? 8 albums? That's really not as much as you think it is.

Anyway, Bill Gates may well be right about the multi-use handsets, but IMO in order to work they're going to need to be like personal computers: you'll need to be able to pull components out and put them in. As it stands now, if your phone's music player becomes obsolete, you pretty much have to buy a new one regardless of how well the camera or the phone itself actually works.



I totally agree. Companies like Nokia who are putting 4 gig hard drives on their phones are def...
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BetterThanJake

Sep 27, 2005, 6:19 PM
Al_Swearengen said:
The big disadvantage about iPod products are the fact that you can't transfer your files anywhere. If you lose the iPod, then you lose all those songs you paid for.

Uhh, Al, the songs actually reside on your computer. You transfer them to the iPod via 'syncing'. If you lose the iPod, you DON'T lose the songs, they're still right there on your comp. Have you ever used an iPod, or iTunes?

Of course, I guess you could lose your computer, while forgetting to make any backups of your music at the same time. But if you did that, you probably shouldn't be messing with technology anyway. 😁
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Acehole

Sep 26, 2005, 3:49 PM
It is nice to have all these features on one device, I agree. However the one thing that still sucks no matter what, is the battery life on the phones. If you are playing games, and listening to music you are killing your battery. Not to mention the camera's on every phone sucks. You don't have all these features on your home phone so why do you need them on your cell phone? Because it sells, and that is what it is all about.
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