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New Phones - Or, How Long Must I Wait For Something Decent

palermo22

Sep 7, 2005, 10:00 PM
So I was all set to join the Verizon family during the summer on the basis that the 8100 and/or the 815 would be THE phones. Well, they weren't! So I cancelled my contract in the first few days and figured something decent had to come out by Labor Day. Wrong Again! Then I heard about the 970 - that seemed worth waiting for but it's been delayed to late October (and it's already getting a bad rap from those that purchased it from Best Buy). I have heard about the Nokia 6256 and the Motorola Razr - but who knows when they'll be released!!!

So is it fair to say that if one wants to join Verizon within the next few months (at least before the Holidays) then they might have to settle for either an inferior phone or one that has 2002/2003 techn...
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BetterThanJake

Sep 7, 2005, 10:35 PM
What you're saying has been a sore point with me as well. I'm currently waiting for the Nokia 6256i as well (or perhaps the Samsung 850- I just want a really good midrange phone), and am miffed at how long its taking. But I put things into perspective.

If I switched to Cingular, I would definitely have worse service (I live in the SF/SJ Bay Area), more dropped calls, inferior customer service, and a higher likelihood of billing problems. Plus, significantly less coverage out in the boondocks if my car breaks down (been there, done that, it isn't fun), and the fact that if I ever want to go 3G, Verizon is way ahead of the competition in their deployment of that.

Maybe if I lived in a part of the country where Cingular was quite good (th...
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RUFF1415

Sep 7, 2005, 10:54 PM
BetterThanJake said: Maybe if I lived in a part of the country where Cingular was quite good (the Northeast, or the Texas/Oklahoma area) I'd feel differently, but I don't, nor would that necessarily shield me from the CS and billing issues, neither of which I'm particularly eager to experience, and neither of which has been an issue at all in my time with Verizon.


So because you've never experienced CS or billing issues with Verizon, that makes them less likely to happen with Verizon? Hey, I've never experienced them with Cingular either! Funny.

Those two things have been blown out of proportion. Although I do agree that they have room for improvement when it comes to Cingular, they are improving. He...
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BetterThanJake

Sep 7, 2005, 11:08 PM
RUFF1415 said:
So because you've never experienced CS or billing issues with Verizon, that makes them less likely to happen with Verizon?

Its not just me saying it, RUFF. The surveys done of such things consistently come back with Cingy... not doing so good. Meanwhile, T-Mobile and Verizon consistently top the customer service surveys.


Hey, I've never experienced them with Cingular either! Funny.

If only my Cingy- or ATTW-using friends had been able to say the same, they might still be with them.
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maverick96

Sep 7, 2005, 11:58 PM
can't talk sense to someone who's eyes are closed
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BetterThanJake

Sep 8, 2005, 12:58 AM
No need to pile on, Mav. Ruff is simply loyal to his company. Its admirable, actually.
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maverick96

Sep 8, 2005, 8:48 AM
Yeah I hear ya. 🤣
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maverick96

Sep 7, 2005, 11:57 PM
ok ruff your back in zombie mode again the F.C.C. or (Federal communications commision) posted a report stating that cingular gets more complaints per million than any other carrier!!!! lets just go with that unbiased opinion shall we....palermo22 hopefully that helps your decision. Also go to www.jdpower.com or www.consumerreports.com these will give you much more unbiased info on who's better. After you are done reading those come back and tell us all what you think. You will see as most other americans do that verizon's network is unmatched by anyone!!!!!
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palermo22

Sep 8, 2005, 1:00 AM
maverick96 said:
....palermo22 hopefully that helps your decision. Also go to www.jdpower.com or www.consumerreports.com these will give you much more unbiased info on who's better. After you are done reading those come back and tell us all what you think. You will see as most other americans do that verizon's network is unmatched by anyone!!!!!


Everyone makes good sense and I agree: with Cingular and Verizon it's basically pick your poison. While I will most likley stick with Verizon (in the sense that I will just abide my time until a decent phone arrives) - I am enclosing a link to a message I posted here last week about my problems with Verizon CS:

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m »...
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BetterThanJake

Sep 8, 2005, 1:27 AM
That does seems like a fairly sucky experience. If I were you, I'd be upset too. I'm glad it worked out for you in the end.
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souside

Sep 8, 2005, 9:53 PM
I have to agree with you guys............its pick ur poison with cell phone companies. I was with sprint for 5 years. Yeah like any other company, I had my issues. but they were nothing compared to the issues I had with T-mobile and ATT. I liked sprint and their phones were cooler anyways. but back to my point, I moved to Montana and had to switch to Verizon cuz sprint hasnt launched all over in montana yet (although Ive noticed my sprint phone does work out here).

Verizon's CS has been awesome. They work with me and help me out when I need it. They are good.

Here's thew good points:

* customer service AWESOME.
* Decent phone selection and getting better.
* Contract is actually more specific and more open than most of ...
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gunny

Sep 7, 2005, 10:37 PM
palermo22 said:
So I was all set to join the Verizon family during the summer on the basis that the 8100 and/or the 815 would be THE phones. Well, they weren't! So I cancelled my contract in the first few days and figured something decent had to come out by Labor Day. Wrong Again! Then I heard about the 970 - that seemed worth waiting for but it's been delayed to late October (and it's already getting a bad rap from those that purchased it from Best Buy). I have heard about the Nokia 6256 and the Motorola Razr - but who knows when they'll be released!!!

So is it fair to say that if one wants to join Verizon within the next few months (at least before the Holidays) then they might have to settle for either an inferior p
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wfine81

Sep 8, 2005, 9:12 AM
You said "Join within the next few months" the Sammy 970 will come out in about a 1-2 months, the Razor will probably be out before Christmas, do these fit your needs of "someone wanting a higher end phone within the next few months"?

What do you not like about the 815? While I am not a fan of Moto's in general this one does seem to be a pretty good phone.
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palermo22

Sep 8, 2005, 1:38 PM
wfine81 said:
Sammy 970 will come out in about a 1-2 months, the Razor will probably be out before Christmas, do these fit your needs of "someone wanting a higher end phone within the next few months"?

What do you not like about the 815? While I am not a fan of Moto's in general this one does seem to be a pretty good phone.


I was hoping the 970 would fit my needs; however, early reviews (on this site and Howard Forums) were not too kind. I am willing to wait until it is released by Verizon in mass and perhaps the reviews will be more positive. Yes, the Razr is also a possibility but that that could be more than three months away. I am waiting to see when the Nokia 6256 is released - that phone looks g...
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sammy2

Sep 8, 2005, 3:24 PM
my 815 is working fine. If you had one that did not work well you should have swaped it out for another. the model in general is very good. I had the 8100 for one week before the 815.
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palermo22

Sep 8, 2005, 4:16 PM
sammy2 said:
my 815 is working fine. If you had one that did not work well you should have swaped it out for another. the model in general is very good. I had the 8100 for one week before the 815.


You obviously didn't read what I said: I never tried the 815 - it looked and felt cheap and because of all the problems associated with it when it came out I opted not to go in that direction. Just because you haven't had problems doesn't mean that it's a good phone. Usually, things built cheaply will not be problem-free over the long run.
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sammy2

Sep 8, 2005, 5:02 PM
my particular phone is very solid. I come from using a startac which was a workhorse.

I have experience with some engineering although not in the phone industry and I will state that rigid components is not always better in the long haul. I will also state that my 815 does not have a lot of flex in the build as I had read.


I am not in the business so I have no dog in the fight. To each their own.
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freedomrep

Sep 8, 2005, 4:29 PM
Well you could always go to Cingular and get the bug wrecked razor. I personally am carring an 8100 that I really like and most customers seem to to.
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