Cingular is king!!!
Hello all you VZW enthusiasts... i have stumbled across your realm to find the word "cingular" used as much as the word verizon in your subject matters.. what is it about cingular that so interests all you verizon customers?? Just flipping through some of the posts in the forum, i see that not only do you claim that verizon has perfect coverage, there are certain individuals that resound in such great one-liners such as "verizon in the best!".. i have been a cingular customer for several years and have always enjoyed their great rates, top notch phone selections, low-cost price plans.. SO i ask .. what is so great about verizon? a poor handset selection, high rates where is the turn on.. I have been paid to test wireless service across the U...
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thomas.beebe said:
Hello all you VZW enthusiasts... i have stumbled across your realm to find the word "cingular" used as much as the word verizon in your subject matters.. what is it about cingular that so interests all you verizon customers??
No one really comments on Cingular, 'cept for bored Cingy reps wandering in from the Cingy forum.
But apparently there are a LOT of bored Cingy reps here. đŗ
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Last time I looked at price plan information, Cingular and VZW are almost exactly the same. As for your question as to what the advantage of Verizon Wireless over Cingular is, I can only speak from my own experience having been a customer of both providers for extended periods of time. Signal strength and call quality wise, both are very similar in my area. However, I had to call Cingular a lot more often than VZW about billing problems, and I'm not the type of person who ever wants to call customer service about anything, and if I do, I'm nice to a fault. The Cingular reps I dealt with were middle of the road to just okay when it came to helpfulness and courtesy. Now, I work for VZW, so I know I'm a little biased, but in my own trainin...
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I obviously work for cingular and just recently got a verizon phn... i have an employee phn, i have to say so far they are about the same... plans are the same... seems like nothing really changed... i think cingular and verizon are neck in neck, but are way ahead of other cell providers.. that's just what i think though..
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cingular rep69 said:
I obviously work for cingular and just recently got a verizon phn... i have an employee phn, i have to say so far they are about the same... plans are the same... seems like nothing really changed... i think cingular and verizon are neck in neck, but are way ahead of other cell providers.. that's just what i think though..
I'd have to agree w/ u there buddy boy! Cingy is doing a lot for their customers and givin VZW some good competition... (just so all u know, I'm a loyal vzw cust... til the day I die)
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i am willing to bet any amount of money in the world that you are not paid to test wireless service across the US.
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See these VZW people just don't get it, VERIZON suck's big. They have some of the highest rate's, real & i mean real crappy hand-sets & selection. they don't even have a third of the coverage as Cingular & and if they do it's only because the company is too cheap to put their own towers up they have to let their customer's leach of other networks. face the fact and jump into realality please and just admit that VZW suck's
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let's Compare based on the Cingy and VZW coverage maps.
http://www.cingular.com/buy/nation_coveragemap_pop »
http://www.verizonwireless.com/images_b2c/maps/natio ... »
Now from what I see GSM covers major cities and main hwy's pretty well but that's about it, out west in some states you don't get much. See the big holes colored in the No Service color.
So how did you get 1/3 coverage to compare.
The thing about VZW is that it is the most reliable networks. In recent articles, you can read that the State of Florida changed from another competitor to VZW because VZW's service worked after all those hurricanes that hit last year. Same thing goes for 9/11. VZW service was available during and after the attack and th...
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http://www.cingular.com/buy/nation_coveragemap_pop »
http://www.verizonwireless.com/images_b2c/maps/natio ... »
Now from what I see GSM covers major cities and main hwy's pretty well but that's about it, out west in some states you don't get much. See the big holes colored in the No Service color.
So how did you get 1/3 coverage to compare.
The thing about VZW is that it is the most reliable networks. In recent articles, you can read that the State of Florida changed from another competitor to VZW because VZW's service worked after all those hurricanes that hit last year. Same thing goes for 9/11. VZW service was available during and after the attack and th...
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Having GSM service has nothing to do with whether or not you're phone will work in dangerous or disastrous situations. Cingular's network was up and running after each and every hurricane that hit the states last year. Cingular actually has a larger variety of backup technology to restore power and service to their network in emergency situations or large venues than Verizon. Cingular deploys their mobile network on wheels to areas that are prone to failure such as hurricanes, or areas with high network traffic such as conventions and other public gatherings.
Here is information on their vast emergency fleet and plans:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/micro_stories.pl?A ... »...
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Here is information on their vast emergency fleet and plans:
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Having GSM service has nothing to do with whether or not you're phone will work in dangerous or disastrous situations. Cingular's network was up and running after each and every hurricane that hit the states last year. Cingular actually has a larger variety of backup technology to restore power and service to their network in emergency situations or large venues than Verizon. Cingular deploys their mobile network on wheels to areas that are prone to failure such as hurricanes, or areas with high network traffic such as conventions and other public gatherings.
Here is information on their vast emergency fleet and plans:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/micro_stories.pl?A ... »
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Both VZW and Cingy have Colt and Cows fleet, you can find the same articles on VZW.com, but these fleets don't make up the networks alone, it's just a support system for high traffic situations. The maps still speak for themselves with coverage area though.
05 Hurricane prep...
http://news.vzw.com/news/2005/05/pr2005-05-31a.html »
The Florida article is here, you see that another PTT company must have dropped the ball eh?
http://news.vzw.com/news/2005/06/pr2005-06-06a.html »
05 Hurricane prep...
http://news.vzw.com/news/2005/05/pr2005-05-31a.html »
The Florida article is here, you see that another PTT company must have dropped the ball eh?
http://news.vzw.com/news/2005/06/pr2005-06-06a.html »
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I don't think Verizon's emergency fleet is quite as extensive as Cingular's. If you look at the information on each of the companies websites it seems as though Cingular has a wider variety of technology to deploy.
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Um, Cingular has that too, largest digital network. Verizon just has analog roaming partners. But much of Verizon's phone lineup doesn't support AMPS anyway.
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RUFF1415 said:
But much of Verizon's phone lineup doesn't support AMPS anyway.
Less than half of Verizon phone lineup doesn't support AMPS, actually. We've been over this before, Ruff.
And that 'less than half' doesn't even really matter when you think about it, as a user who's in area that has significant analog coverage will likely choose a trimode phone anyway.
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Half to me is much. You say tomato, I say tomahto.
Plus, if only half of their phones support AMPS, then that's less of a chance that I'll be able to get a phone I like. That is, if I was even switching to Verizon. đ
Either way, Cingular's digital network is larger. That is the point I was getting across.
Plus, if only half of their phones support AMPS, then that's less of a chance that I'll be able to get a phone I like. That is, if I was even switching to Verizon. đ
Either way, Cingular's digital network is larger. That is the point I was getting across.
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Yeah, we get it... Cingy's digital network is larger. Verizon's network (digital + analog) is larger overall- 289 million covered vs 270 million for Cingy. Another case of tomato, tomahto, I guess. đ
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people covered is not an accurate way to measure how many places you can use your phone.
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Going by the maps, Verizon also has more coverage overall, especially out West.
Wanna know the funny thing? When I've mentioned the coverage maps, ppl have said to me that I should go by number of ppl covered, since that would be more 'accurate'. When I go by number of ppl covered, ppl say I should use something else.
Kinda crazy, in't it? đŗ
Wanna know the funny thing? When I've mentioned the coverage maps, ppl have said to me that I should go by number of ppl covered, since that would be more 'accurate'. When I go by number of ppl covered, ppl say I should use something else.
Kinda crazy, in't it? đŗ
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square miles is the way to go.
ex: verizon doesn't have their own towers in little rock or anchorage. that's about 500,000 people verizon isn't servicing. but you can still use your verizon phone if you're going to those places.
i always figured 'most coverage' meant 'most places you can use your phone', not 'most people that are allowed to sign up for your service.' maybe i'm wrong.
ex: verizon doesn't have their own towers in little rock or anchorage. that's about 500,000 people verizon isn't servicing. but you can still use your verizon phone if you're going to those places.
i always figured 'most coverage' meant 'most places you can use your phone', not 'most people that are allowed to sign up for your service.' maybe i'm wrong.
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I dunno Lance... it seems I get yelled at no matter what method I use, so I think I'm just gonna post what seems most logical to me, and anyone who doesn't like it can go hang.
Metaphorically speaking, of course. đ
Metaphorically speaking, of course. đ
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When it comes to VZW I read that as of 2003 every tower that had VZw digital equipment on it was owned by Vzw. Yes they still have roaming partners for AMPS, but whenever you are in a VZW Digital area you are on VZW equipment. When your phone says switching service it is only because the digital sgnals travel too fast to go around some objects. this is true for any carrier. Hence the fact that there are only a few tri-mode phones to choose from. Every tower that VZW builds or has plans to build will be digital.
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superted76 said:
When your phone says switching service it is only because the digital sgnals travel too fast to go around some objects. this is true for any carrier.
Huh?
Hence the fact that there are only a few tri-mode phones to choose from. Every tower that VZW builds or has plans to build will be digital.
But there aren't 'only a few' trimode phones available.
I, for example, live in an urban area, and there's still something like 14 trimode Verizon phones available, with more on the way.
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BetterThanJake said:
Going by the maps, Verizon also has more coverage overall, especially out West.
Only if you believe the silly maps both companies post on their websites. đ
Any US national map you can display on a website CANNOT be accurate, without an extensive zoom capabilty that far exceeds html, flash, or java ability to display detail. đŗ
Verizon does have the best local maps of any carrier available on their website đ (Cingular does not provide local maps) but you can only get Verizon to show you the "local" map for one specific zip code at a time and the local map is postage stamp size. âšī¸
The only company who ever really let customers see decent coverage maps was the old P...
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RUFF1415 said:
Having GSM service has nothing to do with whether or not you're phone will work in dangerous or disastrous situations. Cingular's network was up and running after each and every hurricane that hit the states last year. blockquote>
Actually, Verizon never went down. đ¤Ŗ Ever hear of C.O.W.s and C.U.L.T.s?
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MercedesBenz said: Actually, Verizon never went down. đ¤Ŗ Ever hear of C.O.W.s and C.U.L.T.s?
Fist of all it is COLT not CULT. And secondly, did you even read the links I had in that post? Cingular has the most extensive emergency backup network plan of any wireless carrier.
They have COWs, COLTs, RATs, mobile generators, and the list goes on. Read the articles I included in my post before you open your mouth and look stupid.
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YOU ARE A TOTAL MORON, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE POTENTIAL OF CDMA OVER GSM.
I SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH ON BOTH TECNOLOGIES.
CDMA IS THE BEST THING SINCE THE WHEEL.
I SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH ON BOTH TECNOLOGIES.
CDMA IS THE BEST THING SINCE THE WHEEL.
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I SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH A DICTIONARY BEFORE YOU TRY TO SPELL BIG WORDS LIKE 'TECHNOLOGIES'. đ
OH YEAH... LAY OFF THE CAPS.
and another thing... all sorts of lamebrains have been saying for years that cdma has more potential, but everytime someone says 'gsm is dead' they come out with a way to make it better.
OH YEAH... LAY OFF THE CAPS.
and another thing... all sorts of lamebrains have been saying for years that cdma has more potential, but everytime someone says 'gsm is dead' they come out with a way to make it better.
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JUST TO MENTION CDMA IS THE OLDEST TECHNOLOGY SINCE THE CELLPHONE ERA, AND STILL GOING STRONG. IN THE OTHER HAND GSM A NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IT IS ALREADY DISSAPEARING.
LET'S FACE IT GSM IS ALMOST DEAD,
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE SAYING ""way to make it better""" GSM STILL A 2.5G TECHNOLGY CDMA 3G, WITH FASTER DATA SPEEDS THAN GSM BASED "GPRS" NETWORKS AND IN MATTER FACT THEY CAN NOT COMPETE WITH CDMA. HOPEFULLY THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY THE SUCCESOR OF GSM. CALLED
WCDMA-UMTS CAN ACTUALLY STAND NEXT TO CDMA NETWORKS, NOT TO MENTION THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES ARE STILL BASED ON CODE DIVISION MULTIPLE ACCESS CDMA
THANKS
LET'S FACE IT GSM IS ALMOST DEAD,
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE SAYING ""way to make it better""" GSM STILL A 2.5G TECHNOLGY CDMA 3G, WITH FASTER DATA SPEEDS THAN GSM BASED "GPRS" NETWORKS AND IN MATTER FACT THEY CAN NOT COMPETE WITH CDMA. HOPEFULLY THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY THE SUCCESOR OF GSM. CALLED
WCDMA-UMTS CAN ACTUALLY STAND NEXT TO CDMA NETWORKS, NOT TO MENTION THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES ARE STILL BASED ON CODE DIVISION MULTIPLE ACCESS CDMA
THANKS
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cdmaverizon said:
JUST TO MENTION CDMA IS THE OLDEST TECHNOLOGY SINCE THE CELLPHONE ERA, AND STILL GOING STRONG. IN THE OTHER HAND GSM A NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IT IS ALREADY DISSAPEARING.
LET'S FACE IT GSM IS ALMOST DEAD,
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE SAYING ""way to make it better""" GSM STILL A 2.5G TECHNOLGY CDMA 3G, WITH FASTER DATA SPEEDS THAN GSM BASED "GPRS" NETWORKS AND IN MATTER FACT THEY CAN NOT COMPETE WITH CDMA. HOPEFULLY THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY THE SUCCESOR OF GSM. CALLED
WCDMA-UMTS CAN ACTUALLY STAND NEXT TO CDMA NETWORKS, NOT TO MENTION THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES ARE STILL BASED ON CODE DIVISION MULTIPLE ACCESS CDMA
THANKS
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I AM NOT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT 1XRTT, AND WE ALL KNOW 1XRTT IT IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN EDGE.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT EV-DO..
HOWEVER
IN REGARDS TO UMTS NOBODY KNOWS THE ACTUAL SPEEDS THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL PERFORM WHEN IT IS DEPLOYED. SO YOU CAN NOT TELL ME IT WILL BE FASTER OR SLOWER THAN CDMA.
SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED UNTIL THEN
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I WAS TALKING ABOUT EV-DO..
HOWEVER
IN REGARDS TO UMTS NOBODY KNOWS THE ACTUAL SPEEDS THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL PERFORM WHEN IT IS DEPLOYED. SO YOU CAN NOT TELL ME IT WILL BE FASTER OR SLOWER THAN CDMA.
SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED UNTIL THEN
PLEASE
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cdmaverizon said:
I AM NOT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT 1XRTT, AND WE ALL KNOW 1XRTT IT IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN EDGE.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT EV-DO..
HOWEVER
IN REGARDS TO UMTS NOBODY KNOWS THE ACTUAL SPEEDS THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL PERFORM WHEN IT IS DEPLOYED. SO YOU CAN NOT TELL ME IT WILL BE FASTER OR SLOWER THAN CDMA.
SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED UNTIL THEN
PLEASE
No, everyone does not know that 1xRtt is better. Because it isn't. EDGE is faster. Just look at the specs.
We also know that UMTS does indeed get speeds of 384kbps based on att/cingular's current UMTS network. That's only 3 times as fast as the initial '3G' technologies offered by cdma. cdma required an upgrade to get faster. henc...
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You may call me a moron if you like, but I am not the one who cannot contain their stupidity through "shouting" and I believe I produced some articles full of factual information, and not just my personal opinon. đ
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cdmaverizon said:
YOU ARE A TOTAL MORON, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE POTENTIAL OF CDMA OVER GSM.
I SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH ON BOTH TECNOLOGIES.
CDMA IS THE BEST THING SINCE THE WHEEL.
RUFF has been here awhile, and is definitely not a moron. While I agree that both CDMA and Verizon are generally pretty awesome, you're not going to get too many converts by flaming anyone who doesn't agree with you in all caps. Clue in. đ
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I know that I can tell you for a fact that the verizon coverage map is bs in some spots. There is alot of area on that map that doesn't pick up like it says it should.
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let's Compare based on the Cingy and VZW coverage maps.
http://www.cingular.com/buy/nation_coveragemap_pop »
http://www.verizonwireless.com/images_b2c/maps/natio ... »
Now from what I see GSM covers major cities and main hwy's pretty well but that's about it, out west in some states you don't get much. See the big holes colored in the No Service color.
So how did you get 1/3 coverage to compare.
The thing about VZW is that it is the most reliable networks. In recent articles, you can read that the State of Florida changed from another competitor to VZW because VZW's service worked after all those hurricanes that hit last year. Same thing goes for 9/11. VZW service was availab
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knowledge said:
they don't even have a third of the coverage as Cingular & and if they do it's only because the company is too cheap to put their own towers up they have to let their customer's leach of other networks. face the fact and jump into realality please and just admit that VZW suck's
Ok. If you had ANY clue as to WTF you where talking about, you would know that Verizon spent aprox. $4 Billion in their network last year with an estemated 5 Billion this year on UPGRADING, MAINTAINNING, AND EXPANDING their network, and yes, THAT INCLUDES CELL TOWERS!!!. Cingular hasn't done that, So who's cheap now!? Get a F*cken clue and talk what you know, not some random garbage that you've pulled out of your @s...
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Cingular is not cheap. Cingular spent over $6 billion on upgrading and expanding their network last year. I'm reading it right from a copy of Cingular's monthly magazine available in any and all of their stores. I can't really give you a link but if you doubt what I'm telling you I'll gladly scan it and host it on the web for you to see.
And that is not pulled out of my ass, thank you. đ
And that is not pulled out of my ass, thank you. đ
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RUFF1415 said:
And that is not pulled out of my ass, thank you. đ
Um, to be fair Ruff, I think its pretty obvious that the guy was responding to an obvious troll post by another user, not you.
While I may disagree with you at times, I think anyone reasonable here knows that you do not pull things out of any of your bodily orifices. đ
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I understand that he was responding to another user's post, but that doesn't mean I can't defend somebody. You've jumped in the middle of things quite a few times before, haven't you?
I dont' like to see it when people get chewed out by somebody else that think they're in "the know", when the other person was indeed correct in the first place. Mercedes was clearly wrong, and he insulted somebody for no reason. He had it coming. đ
I dont' like to see it when people get chewed out by somebody else that think they're in "the know", when the other person was indeed correct in the first place. Mercedes was clearly wrong, and he insulted somebody for no reason. He had it coming. đ
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RUFF1415 said:
I understand that he was responding to another user's post, but that doesn't mean I can't defend somebody. You've jumped in the middle of things quite a few times before, haven't you?
I dont' like to see it when people get chewed out by somebody else that think they're in "the know", when the other person was indeed correct in the first place. Mercedes was clearly wrong, and he insulted somebody for no reason. He had it coming. đ
Yes RUFF, but you have to look at both sides. This is the post that Mercedes had a problem with:
See these VZW people just don't get it, VERIZON suck's big.
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I do agree that they are both in the wrong, no argument there.
However Mercedes jumped on the guy with insults. Mercedes called the man an ass because he (Mercedes) thought he knew what he was talking about when he accused Cingular of being cheap in retaliation. Mercedes, I'm sure has enough self control to just ignore somebody that is clearly trying to start something. At least the other guy didn't fill his posts with insult to somebody's intelligence and name calling, when he himself didn't know the true information (because he obviously didn't).
And to tell you the truth, as much as my post was because of Mercedes lack of self control, it was aslo in defense of Cingular. It sickens me when Verizon fanboys brag about how much mon...
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However Mercedes jumped on the guy with insults. Mercedes called the man an ass because he (Mercedes) thought he knew what he was talking about when he accused Cingular of being cheap in retaliation. Mercedes, I'm sure has enough self control to just ignore somebody that is clearly trying to start something. At least the other guy didn't fill his posts with insult to somebody's intelligence and name calling, when he himself didn't know the true information (because he obviously didn't).
And to tell you the truth, as much as my post was because of Mercedes lack of self control, it was aslo in defense of Cingular. It sickens me when Verizon fanboys brag about how much mon...
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Well, I'm glad that you at least realize that both people were at fault.
But as a sidebar... why should Verizon folks bragging on their network bother you so, particularly on a Verizon forum?
I think you have to agree that Verizon's put a lot of time and effort into their network, so they've earned some bragging rights, particularly but not limited to 3G. đ
But as a sidebar... why should Verizon folks bragging on their network bother you so, particularly on a Verizon forum?
I think you have to agree that Verizon's put a lot of time and effort into their network, so they've earned some bragging rights, particularly but not limited to 3G. đ
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That is exactly it. They babble things off like "Verizon spent $5 billion on their network alone last year" and then got offended when they find out that Cingular spent $6 billion. The amount of money holds no bearing on the quality of the network, so why brag about it?
I do agree that Verizon has put a lot of time and effort into their network, but so have others.
I do agree that Verizon has put a lot of time and effort into their network, but so have others.
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MercedesBenz said:...knowledge said:
they don't even have a third of the coverage as Cingular & and if they do it's only because the company is too cheap to put their own towers up they have to let their customer's leach of other networks. face the fact and jump into realality please and just admit that VZW suck's
Ok. If you had ANY clue as to WTF you where talking about, you would know that Verizon spent aprox. $4 Billion in their network last year with an estemated 5 Billion this year on UPGRADING, MAINTAINNING, AND EXPANDING their network, and yes, THAT INCLUDES CELL TOWERS!!!. Cingular hasn't done that, So who's cheap now!? Get a F*cken clue and talk what you know, not some random ga
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WOW 41 billion dollar purchase and Cingular is cheap wow. Please get off your crack pipe please.
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Wow. See, that is what is wrong with some people. Some of the Verizon goers cant even know when something is bad. Yes they spent that and are going to spend more. Cingular has done the same thing plus some. Your raving about something that you dont even know the flip side for.
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Well, as a previous Cingular customer that couldn't make a call within a 5 mile radius around my home (and only living 20 minutes from Boston), I decided to switch to a carrier that can actually connect my calls.
I tried T-mobile too. Neither carrier could compare (in my area) to Verizon.
I tried T-mobile too. Neither carrier could compare (in my area) to Verizon.
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At my mom's house Verizon is the only carrier that will even kind of work. She has to have a trimode to get a reliable signal all the time. Digital will fade in and out, sometimes becoming extended network. This however is better than Sprint, AT&T(Cingular), and TMobile just flat out getting her nothing. She lives close enough to a MAJOR international airport to have recieved free sound proofing so it's not like she lives in the middle of nowhere. Her house is roughly 2 miles away by direct flight. This isn't a problem just inside her house though. Anywhere within 4 blocks, cell phones just don't work.
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If you like Cingular, good for you. Why is it necessary to have such a personal, heated battle over who's king of the cell phones.
Obviously, Cingular and Verizon are the 2 biggest cellular carriers. It's great to see comparisons of what each has to offer in different areas, and where one carrier might offer better service in a certain market.
Comments like "Cingular is King" is just a remark that is plain stupid, with no basis in fact. Everyone can decide for themself which carrier is best for them, with the aid of constructive information being shared on this board. Personal, stupid remarks in support of your carrier are petty. No one has to tell me (or you) who is king, if there even is a king.
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Obviously, Cingular and Verizon are the 2 biggest cellular carriers. It's great to see comparisons of what each has to offer in different areas, and where one carrier might offer better service in a certain market.
Comments like "Cingular is King" is just a remark that is plain stupid, with no basis in fact. Everyone can decide for themself which carrier is best for them, with the aid of constructive information being shared on this board. Personal, stupid remarks in support of your carrier are petty. No one has to tell me (or you) who is king, if there even is a king.
I personally hope there isn't a ...
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thomas.beebe said:
Hello all you VZW enthusiasts... i have stumbled across your realm to find the word "cingular" used as much as the word verizon in your subject matters..
SO i ask .. what is so great about verizon?
I don't know what's great (or bad) about Verizon. Finding out is a big part of why I am here -- trying to find any carrier I can go to on the morning my Cingular contract runs out.
As I said, I don't know much about Verizon, but I do know about Cingular:
Inaccurate billing -- yes I know the errors are mostly in things that don't change the total (such as showing roaming in places that are not roaming or in places that I have never been, or in places that don't even exist).
Miserable...
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n4aof said:...thomas.beebe said:
Hello all you VZW enthusiasts... i have stumbled across your realm to find the word "cingular" used as much as the word verizon in your subject matters..
SO i ask .. what is so great about verizon?
I don't know what's great (or bad) about Verizon. Finding out is a big part of why I am here -- trying to find any carrier I can go to on the morning my Cingular contract runs out.
As I said, I don't know much about Verizon, but I do know about Cingular:
Inaccurate billing -- yes I know the errors are mostly in things that don't change the total (such as showing roaming in places that are not roaming or in places that I have never been, or in places that
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I think you'll be a lot happier with Verizon, or with USCC (if avail. in your area). Both have good, knowledgeable customer service, and, in the 6 years I've been with them, only a few minor billing errors, which they corrected instantly as soon as I called (with no hold times over a couple of minutes, or via email). I've changed plans with them many times over the phone to take advantage of new promotions. They always got it right first time. I have to say they've always gone out of their way to be fair, and seem to always give the benefit of the doubt to the customer, as long as it's halfway reasonable.
There on-line account maint. is pretty good, allowing you to view bill, and pay it instantly via credit card (or automatically, wh...
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#1 Cingular hasn't been lying to anyone about anything. Network integration is a long process that has been going on since day one of the merger.
#2 You sound pretty pissy because you may have had a bad experience. Sorry. Life sucks. Get over it.
#3 If you are so "technical", then explain how you know that Cingular couldn't possibly have coverage in the area you are talking about. Sounds like a pissy rant because someone didn't get a credit for something they don't deserve anyway.
#2 You sound pretty pissy because you may have had a bad experience. Sorry. Life sucks. Get over it.
#3 If you are so "technical", then explain how you know that Cingular couldn't possibly have coverage in the area you are talking about. Sounds like a pissy rant because someone didn't get a credit for something they don't deserve anyway.
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just because the remarks made were disparaging about your company doesn't make them "pissy". i thought they were well thought out and eloquently put. the poster had a legitimate beef. if they just said cingular sux vzw rulz, you might have a point.
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If Cingular is king, it's a well kept secret. If they do eventually offer better service and rates, the word will get out. I don't think any Verizon customer would hesitate to leave VZW if they thought they could get equal or better service at better rates. In doing my comparisons based on my usage of the various carriers, I don't see any savings of any significance with Cingy vs. VZW. From my own experience, and from the results of most surveys of service quality, Verizon always comes out better than Cingular, Sprint or Nextel. Occasionally, I see some of the smaller carriers such as USCC or T-Mobil edge out Verizon in select markets. But Cingular is never up there. It's always at the bottom.
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Verizon:
Much better downloads and way easier to use.
Same national calling plan rates as cingular.
No activation fee.
WAY better coverage here in cleveland.
Cool and STABLE phones available at all times.
Professional staff!
Less wait times for customer service.
new every 2 $100.00 credit.
Clean clear calls.
Cingular:
Horrible downloads and hard to use.
Same rates as everyone else.
$36.00 activation fee.
Not the greates coverage anywhere.
Extremely unprofessional staff around here.
I waited 15 minutes tonight to cancel account.
No upgrade discounts.
I did not have clear calls on the RAZOR, or sony. I went back to verizon tonight.. I am thrilled now...
Much better downloads and way easier to use.
Same national calling plan rates as cingular.
No activation fee.
WAY better coverage here in cleveland.
Cool and STABLE phones available at all times.
Professional staff!
Less wait times for customer service.
new every 2 $100.00 credit.
Clean clear calls.
Cingular:
Horrible downloads and hard to use.
Same rates as everyone else.
$36.00 activation fee.
Not the greates coverage anywhere.
Extremely unprofessional staff around here.
I waited 15 minutes tonight to cancel account.
No upgrade discounts.
I did not have clear calls on the RAZOR, or sony. I went back to verizon tonight.. I am thrilled now...
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coasterguy said:
Verizon:
Much better downloads and way easier to use.
Same national calling plan rates as cingular.
No activation fee.
WAY better coverage here in cleveland.
Cool and STABLE phones available at all times.
Professional staff!
Less wait times for customer service.
new every 2 $100.00 credit.
Clean clear calls.
Cingular:
Horrible downloads and hard to use.
Same rates as everyone else.
$36.00 activation fee.
Not the greates coverage anywhere.
Extremely unprofessional staff around here.
I waited 15 minutes tonight to cancel account.
No upgrade discounts.
I did not have clear calls on the RAZOR, or sony. I went back to verizon tonight.. I am thrilled now...
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I have had both now.. Cingular is not even close to Verizon... not even.....a bit close!
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coasterguy said:
I have had both now.. Cingular is not even close to Verizon... not even.....a bit close!
I have both right this very minute.... You are right Cingular is not close. It far surpasses Verizon's voice services. đ¤Ŗ
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Al_Swearengen said:
I have both right this very minute.... You are right Cingular is not close. It far surpasses Verizon's voice services. đ¤Ŗ
Yup pardner, it shore 'enuff does... in a two-block radius around my rodeo pen in the outskirts of Lubbock, Texas.
Almost everywhere else, of course, Verizon just flat owns Cingular. đ
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coasterguy said:
Texas hah! Hey does us all a fovor and plant a bush back in texas..
What's a fovor? đ
Don't like Texas? Ok.
Cingular has better voice in New York, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Tennesse, and most every other state I have been to. The only exception would be California. And I'd have to say Cingular still holds it's own with Verizon. I've had just as many dropped calls in California with Verizon as I have with Cingular.
I will also add that Verizon has the best data available and it's pretty damn fast too, but I can't wait for Cingular's 3G. I'll be trying that out as soon as it's available to me. I used the UMTS that ATT had and Verizon's is much faste...
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