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Why Verizon gets rid of phones that work?

trucksmoveamerica

Feb 24, 2005, 11:26 AM
I figured that there is a way to start a list as to the phones that verizon gets rid of because they work, and probably because they work to good

I will start the list out with this phone.

The Lg 4400, phone works like a champ, don't drop calls, and probably works to good, so, verizon dropped it....and the 4500 is not a replacement for it, not even close. And, if verizon kept offering that phone, Lg would still be making it.

What are some of the phone that you people have had in the past that you feel were great phones and probably just worked to good?
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Anxiovert

Feb 24, 2005, 11:38 AM
trucksmoveamerica said:
I figured that there is a way to start a list as to the phones that verizon gets rid of because they work, and probably because they work to good

I will start the list out with this phone.

The Lg 4400, phone works like a champ, don't drop calls, and probably works to good, so, verizon dropped it....and the 4500 is not a replacement for it, not even close. And, if verizon kept offering that phone, Lg would still be making it.

What are some of the phone that you people have had in the past that you feel were great phones and probably just worked to good?

Audiovox 9900
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BigMacDoodle

Feb 24, 2005, 12:24 PM
Verizon doesn't make the phones. They stop selling phones because they are no longer available from the manufacturers. The same can be said with any product, ie, TVs, toasters, cars, etc.
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trucksmoveamerica

Feb 24, 2005, 5:16 PM
who cares who makes the phones, and I am well aware that verizon does not make the phones, does not take a genius to figure that out. I am just tring to get a list of phones that people liked in the past that they wish they had again. Read subject line, Why verizon gets rid of phones that work.

I am not interested in the cingular/verizon bashing, I am just interested in the past phones people have had that they liked, that is all this post is for, if you want to bash each other, there are plenty of posts to do that on, go find one and have fun.

Now, I hope this clarifies things, just phones you wish you could have again, pretty simple, has nothing to do with verizon, cingular, us cellular, alltel, t-mobile, or any phone company. Ag...
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BigMacDoodle

Feb 24, 2005, 6:09 PM
trucksmoveamerica said:
who cares who makes the phones, and I am well aware that verizon does not make the phones, does not take a genius to figure that out. I am just tring to get a list of phones that people liked in the past that they wish they had again. Read subject line, Why verizon gets rid of phones that work.

I am not interested in the cingular/verizon bashing, I am just interested in the past phones people have had that they liked, that is all this post is for, if you want to bash each other, there are plenty of posts to do that on, go find one and have fun.

Now, I hope this clarifies things, just phones you wish you could have again, pretty simple, has nothing to do with verizon, cingular, us cellular,
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Grantizzle

Feb 24, 2005, 6:27 PM
i miss the 510 and the 4400. 😢
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TommyBoy

Feb 25, 2005, 2:34 AM
Dude the 510 was such a great phone for me. I was one of the few to get the timeport 270 (bar phone) My first digital phone was the audio 4000 then i got the lg v111 then the 510, then the 2way pager phone they had out for like a week, got the 9155, even the kyo 2135 for a replacement phone once. Then switched to the 4400 which was the shizzle and then to the lg6000 which is my personal phone now and I have the 7000 as a work phone. Oh ond by the way I dropped my aud 4000 in liquid butter where i worked as a cook, Took it apart and cleaned it up, it is still working to this day and the battery still hold a great charge.

Taking that phone apart was the thing that led me to apply for a tech spot at vzw which they hired me to be a csr inste...
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howardk111

Feb 25, 2005, 7:56 AM
I had the 510 prior to the 4400. I still think the 510 had the better quality sound as between those two phones, although it's address function is attrocious.
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TommyBoy

Feb 25, 2005, 11:40 AM
yeah thats true. I ran across my 510 the otherday and it powered on after sitting there forever.. I was looking through it and i found it hard to navigate and type out a text on it lol! It was like I had never used the thing before. I guess we get spoiled with these nice easier to navigate phones with icons and one navigation pad.
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ccanady

Feb 28, 2005, 11:32 AM
trucksmoveamerica, well I looked into this matter for you and spoke with LG's and Samsung's reps who handle production of phones for carriers. Keep in mind, reps for these companies are assigned to deal with only one carrier. Well they both said the same thing when I asked them the question you was wandering. They said its not up to them what phones are realeased and what phones are discontinued. Its all up to what Verizon or let alone, any carrier wants. I asked them why is it when a good phone is out, you guys stop making it, both of their responces were, " we dont stop making them, the carrier tells us when to stop. Samsung went into detail as to why Verizon may be as you said "getting rid of phones that perform." he said its all about mo...
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howardk111

Feb 28, 2005, 11:45 AM
In answer to your rhetorical question at the end of your post, because some of the no-roaming area remains analog, at least so far.
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ccanady

Feb 28, 2005, 1:14 PM
howardk111 said:
In answer to your rhetorical question at the end of your post, because some of the no-roaming area remains analog, at least so far.


so in that case, any phone w/o analog will just decrease your coverage with Verizon. You may be correct but if so, then Verizon is not doing its customers any justice producing phones w/ no analog.
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trucksmoveamerica

Feb 28, 2005, 2:10 PM
BINGO, that is what I am trying to say, verizon owes it to it's customers to provide analog yet, at least in the midwest market.

thanks for checking into that for me, at least it proves to me that it is the carrier that stop the making of the phones, as I was saying, if verizon still offered the 4400, or cingular, then the phone would still be made.

and on top of that, there are trimode phones out there that verizon could use, one in mind is the lg 5550, that is a trimode phone, and works good, I have a friend that is using it on his plan thru USCC, the only difference is the lg5550 does not have a camera, just a basic trimode phone with no camera that would work great for us. I dont think I am asking for much, as there are people tha...
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howardk111

Feb 28, 2005, 2:29 PM
You are correct. Verizon's response has been as follows:

1. Most people do not venture into the analog areas so having a trimode phone is not important to most people.

2. Sometime next year, the FCC has mandated that Verizon be all digital, without any analog coverage. (My fear is that either the FCC will extend the date (as it has with HD TV), or that the FCC will allow the small carriers with whom Verizon has roaming agreements to continue their analog service, in which event analog service might be a necessity for some beyond next year's date.)
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ccanady

Feb 28, 2005, 3:53 PM
howardk111 said:
You are correct. Verizon's response has been as follows:

1. Most people do not venture into the analog areas so having a trimode phone is not important to most people.

2. Sometime next year, the FCC has mandated that Verizon be all digital, without any analog coverage. (My fear is that either the FCC will extend the date (as it has with HD TV), or that the FCC will allow the small carriers with whom Verizon has roaming agreements to continue their analog service, in which event analog service might be a necessity for some beyond next year's date.)



off topic, what have the FCC done with HD TV
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howardk111

Feb 28, 2005, 3:59 PM
Did I mention the wrong governmental agency that has mandated the date by which TV signals must be HD? I don't think so, but I could be wrong on that.
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ccanady

Feb 28, 2005, 4:22 PM
wow, I did not that. So does that mean I should go buy a HD TV
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HipPriest

Feb 28, 2005, 10:42 PM
You're right, it is the FCC that mandates the form of (over-the-air) TV signals. However technically they are not mandating HDTV, just the use of a digital signal instead of analog. There are still SD (standard definition) formats defined for the digital TV signal, and smaller stations might use them to save money.

However the main point of switching to digital is to have enough bandwidth for HDTV, so hopefully it will become more prevalent. But you could also use that same bandwidth to just support more SD channels, which some broadcasters would no doubt prefer.
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BetterThanJake

Feb 28, 2005, 4:05 PM
howardk111 said:
You are correct. Verizon's response has been as follows:

2. Sometime next year, the FCC has mandated that Verizon be all digital, without any analog coverage. (My fear is that either the FCC will extend the date (as it has with HD TV), or that the FCC will allow the small carriers with whom Verizon has roaming agreements to continue their analog service, in which event analog service might be a necessity for some beyond next year's date.)

Eh? I thought the next year date was for *TV* to go all-digital, and that all-digital for cellular wasn't until February 2008. 😕
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howardk111

Feb 28, 2005, 4:13 PM
Verizon reps have told me that Verizon is mandated to go all digital during 2006. Frankly, I have no idea if that time frame is accurate, or not.
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BetterThanJake

Feb 28, 2005, 4:26 PM
This is what confuses me:

"By February 18, 2008, which coincides with the termination of the FCC requirement that cellular carriers offer analog service"

http://www.wrf.com/publication_newsletters.cfm?sp=ne ... »

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howardk111

Feb 28, 2005, 4:44 PM
Hmm, the date I heard was earlier than that. Does anyone know the date by which Verizon must be all digital?
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