Coming soon... VZW #1 ATT #2
I'd take good customers over a "mob" of bad ones anyday.
If verizon's profits suffer, it will most likely come from buying Alltel, and restructuring it. I can imagine training everyone on "MyCircle" legacy plans will be rather expensive.
You really are a bloody troll.
AT&T is currently number one in subscribers because when it was Cingular it acquired the old AT&T Wireless and became number one in 2004.
Verizon Wireless is now doing the same thing that AT&T did four years go.
Voice in the corner says: "didn't we turn them down when they went for sale last year?"
Verizon: "yeah, but we need to pass AT&T no matter what!"
Anxiovert said:
But Cingular bought AT&T in order to create the largest GSM network in the US. Verizon has no need to merge with Alltel. The proof is in all the markets that needed to be divested. It's very clear they're doing it just to become #1 again. They couldn't surpass AT&T by the end of 2007 like they had predicted. Solution: "Let's buy Alltel"
Voice in the corner says: "didn't we turn them down when they went for sale last year?"
Verizon: "yeah, but we need to pass AT&T no matter what!"
I see what you are seeing, but look at the phonescoop news archives, Alltel's been trying to sell itself for a while now.
See this link: https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=21 96
Verizon decided to b...
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Anxiovert said:
But Cingular bought AT&T in order to create the largest GSM network in the US. Verizon has no need to merge with Alltel. The proof is in all the markets that needed to be divested. It's very clear they're doing it just to become #1 again. They couldn't surpass AT&T by the end of 2007 like they had predicted. Solution: "Let's buy Alltel"
Voice in the corner says: "didn't we turn them down when they went for sale last year?"
Verizon: "yeah, but we need to pass AT&T no matter what!"
Verizon pays alltel more money in roaming than any other competitor. There is one reason
Alltel is CDMA and only overlaps in like 30 % of the areas if that. There is two reasons.
Alltel is already on goo...
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Verizon Wireless 2009 said:
Evilhomer,
You really are a bloody troll.
AT&T is currently number one in subscribers because when it was Cingular it acquired the old AT&T Wireless and became number one in 2004.
Verizon Wireless is now doing the same thing that AT&T did four years go.
You are a bloody idiot that CAN'T read!
I asked if it was really that impressive when ANY carrier buys their number one spot versus doing it on their own merit. Why don't you take a second to have someone explain a post to you before shooting off your ignorant mouth?
And since you need things explained to you, AT&T was forced by government regulation to sell off it's wireless division to Cingular. When those rest...
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evilhomer said:
And since you need things explained to you, AT&T was forced by government regulation to sell off it's wireless division to Cingular. When those restrictions where lifted, AT&T bought back basically most of it's own customers.
evilhomer, you are not getting it:
AT&T (old Ma Bell) SPUN off AT&T Wireless in July 2001. AT&T Wireless was its own company until John Zeglis ran the sucker into the ground forcing them to put themselves up for sale in early 2004 AFTER the FCC reamed them about their disastrous handling of porting numbers out.
Cingular won the bid of AT&T Wireless and took over in 2004.
The government never told them to sell to Cingular, though AT&T was under pressure in 2...
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The New ATnT Wireless said:...evilhomer said:
And since you need things explained to you, AT&T was forced by government regulation to sell off it's wireless division to Cingular. When those restrictions where lifted, AT&T bought back basically most of it's own customers.
evilhomer, you are not getting it:
AT&T (old Ma Bell) SPUN off AT&T Wireless in July 2001. AT&T Wireless was its own company until John Zeglis ran the sucker into the ground forcing them to put themselves up for sale in early 2004 AFTER the FCC reamed them about their disastrous handling of porting numbers out.
Cingular won the bid of AT&T Wireless and took over in 2004.
The government never told them to sell
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That way, when I talk about the likes and dislikes of a device, I can do it from first hand experience. I can't say that the Storm isn't as good, or is better than an iPhone or any other device if I haven't used it.
I've seen people posting that the Storm is the end of be all and they've already made up their minds that it's better than an iPhone without using either. In my opinion, those posters are entitled to post, but should be ignored since they are offering opinions on not one, but in many cases, two device that they haven't ow...
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Everyone has a bias, like it or not, you have it. It's the constant back and forth of people bringing up stupid arguments to ridicule or bring down verizon out of pure, not needed hatred. Anytime someone stands up to someone in here about something with their own opinion, the response is
"Drink some more kool aid" or "God such a fanboy" or whatever. No one I have ever met in this forum has brought up completely logical complaints against verizon, period.
This is my first time on phone scoop in months so I don't know you from this or that, I'm just saying most verizon people that post here have done for awhile, and have a bitter taste i...
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rjsumthin said:...
It's not you that is a troll or not a troll, it's they idea of them, and the idea of fanboyism.
Everyone has a bias, like it or not, you have it. It's the constant back and forth of people bringing up stupid arguments to ridicule or bring down verizon out of pure, not needed hatred. Anytime someone stands up to someone in here about something with their own opinion, the response is
"Drink some more kool aid" or "God such a fanboy" or whatever. No one I have ever met in this forum has brought up completely logical complaints against verizon, period.
This is my first time on phone scoop in months so I don't know you from this or that, I'm just saying most verizon people that post here have done f
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budscoutmaster419 said:
and how did at&t get all their customers? buy another network like Dobson / cellular one? never... 🙄
correction...
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evilhomer said:
Yea! They were able to buy the #1 spot! Really, is it that impressive for any carrier to "aquire" customers versus customers coming to them?
Lol... you do realize this is the wireless industry right? And that AT&T bought their way ahead of verizon not all that long ago.
The market is saturated, and there just isn't a huge way to gain customers other than buying other companies, or stealing them away from the other. The latter is relatively hard with contracts and economy the way it is.
Cellenator said:
Can't my entire family is with verizon. Why would I leave a great network for an inferior one? you shouldn't read so heavy into ppl statement, i just said their phones suck, and they do! My Nextel phone rules all. peace
Verizon does need to get better phones.
I did find one I really liked a lot, but it is soon being discontinued.
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It is far better than I imagined, yay!
if link does not work, here's text:
Alltel Begins Serious Discussions For A Sale
News Brief Related News Discuss
posted May 9, 2007, 12:22 PM
At least three pairs of private equity groups have put in bids for Alltel according to sources. Alltel revealed it was considering a sale in February and since then has been courting offers. No carriers have yet expressed an interested in buying the regional carrier, which is valued somewhere between 25 to 30 billion dollars. If one of the equity partnerships purchases Alltel, it is unlikely subscribers will notice any immediate changes. However it is likely they would only buy the carrier to hold it until a larger comp...
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Text:
posted Mar 5, 2007, 12:24 PM
Alltel Wireless, the nation's fifth-largest mobile operator, has intensified its attempt to sell itself to one of the other major US carriers or simply to new owners. Alltel has recently solicited bids from AT&T, Verizon Wireless and others. Though AT&T has rebuffed Alltel's offer, Verizon is reported to still be considering it. This potential union is more likely since both carriers use CDMA technology, and Verizon has not swallowed up any major operators like Sprint or AT&T have so regulatory hurdles are not as high. Were Verizon to acquire Alltel, it would become the nation's largest wireless provider with 71 million subscribers, far more than Ci...
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"More bars claim compares AT&T's network before to after merger."
source: www.wireless.att.com
specificaly: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-servic e/cell-phone-sales/promotion/3g.jsp?locale=en _US
I still think Verizon has the best coverage, even if on another carrier's network, CDMA covers way more than GSM. AT&T's "more bars" claim sounds more like a "before and after" claim! haha
evilhomer said:
That is applicable to AT&T even with the merger because they include their Global coverage. Worldwide, GSM has far more coverage than CDMA. CDMA is very widespread in the US but not as much is Europe and Asia. When they claim more coverage, they mean worldwide coverage.
Much more? Try 5 countries more, we are at 195 and they are at 200 for total coverage globally. With the dropping of the Storm we are going to be able to cover people in more countries than ATT and that will lead to the end of another bogus campaign.
The majority of people think that campaign has to do with their coverage in the US, most dont care about coverage globally. Once they find out how bad coverage is with at...
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IamTheGodfather said:
The majority of people think that campaign has to do with their coverage in the US, most dont care about coverage globally.
True...how many regulars really travel to Spain or Denmark (or wherever that "Merger" is taking place)
It is factually true advertising, but not truthful. The international locations are NOT at&t's native network, as that is the impression they are trying to give.
Meh...it's just advertising...
llama said:IamTheGodfather said:
The majority of people think that campaign has to do with their coverage in the US, most dont care about coverage globally.
True...how many regulars really travel to Spain or Denmark (or wherever that "Merger" is taking place)
It is factually true advertising, but not truthful. The international locations are NOT at&t's native network, as that is the impression they are trying to give.
Meh...it's just advertising...
It is. AT&T is just using it to attract people. But honestly, I've had them and now I have Verizon and Verizon has a better network as far as quality goes. AT&T's is ok, but if they don't put more effort into improvi...
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ATT = largest GSM coverage
Sprint = most people
Alltel = most square miles
Verizon = most reliable soon to be also most people and most square miles.