HAHA at&t IS FASTER!!!
😲 here is finally proof from a 100% reliable source.
everyone knows motorola they make your guys moto q, z6, v9m and v3 maxx
for all of those "I'll Die for Verizon" out there when HSxPA is used its refurring to hsdpa and/or hsupa (because Downlink does not effect Uplink speeds)
http://business.motorola.com/experiencelte/lte-exper ... »
everyone knows motorola they make your guys moto q, z6, v9m and v3 maxx
for all of those "I'll Die for Verizon" out there when HSxPA is used its refurring to hsdpa and/or hsupa (because Downlink does not effect Uplink speeds)
http://business.motorola.com/experiencelte/lte-exper ... »
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that article refers to LTE which is 4g and both att and verizon are using that for 4g. So what is your point of this post?
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wombough said:
that article refers to LTE which is 4g and both att and verizon are using that for 4g. So what is your point of this post?
I think his point was Verizon has to use an extension of the GSM technology to keep up and abandon EV-DO.
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jesus christ your still saying that. LTE is not an extension of GSM if anything it is CDMA since it is based off of it like WCDMA. Even though it not close to CDMA its based off the same principle. GSM has nothing to do with LTE not even remotely.
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wombough said:
jesus christ your still saying that. LTE is not an extension of GSM if anything it is CDMA since it is based off of it like WCDMA. Even though it not close to CDMA its based off the same principle. GSM has nothing to do with LTE not even remotely.
"Verizon Wireless today announced it would support "Long Term Evolution" (LTE), the super fast 4G technology currently in testing from Nokia and its European friends in the 3GPP group, and operating at a blistering 100Mbps. It's certainly hot technology, but one seen as an extension of GSM's high-speed packet technology. This is a rejection of CDMA's EV-DO (which has a faster Rev. C that could have been rolled out) and a definite rejectio...
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Read up on LTE and you will understand. It may be seen as an extension because that is the upgrade path of GSM carriers. However if you read on the tech you will see it has NOTHING to do with GSM. GSM ended with 2g. Att 3g is based of WCDMA.
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this conversation is inane. also considering AT&T barely rolled 3G out.
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also LTE is still in the developmental stages of. Wimax and LTE are close to speeds. However wimax is already deployed in certain markets meaning they are at least 2 years ahead of LTE.
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read again NARDFARD!! im referring to the current technology being implemented by both companies... if you click any of the network speed tests you'd notice that HSxPA loads twice as fast!!!! 🙄 you didnt review the whole web page
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real world speeds are not as fast nor will they ever reach what they are capable of. They don't have the spectrum.
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yes they do in 3 cities. however wimax is not needed to say sprint is faster. EVDO Rev a for both sprint and verizon is faster 90% of the time!
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Where does AT&T have HSxPA??? Verizon/Sprint have had EVDO Rev0 and RevA deployed over a couple of years.
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🙂 yea it has its 3g service in the top 100 markets... and counting...
but its only like 3 years old and didnt really take off till last year
but its only like 3 years old and didnt really take off till last year
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The markets have UMTS/HSDPA and are behind the areas covered by VZW and Sprint. at@t is not using HSxPA and has announced HSUPA upgrades this summer through the end of year and then transition to HSPA+ prior to LTE.
You need to research before putting your foot in your mouth.
You need to research before putting your foot in your mouth.
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durkadurkha- You are a complete moron if you believe what this link shows is what at@t is using. HSxPA is not being used by at@t and by the time it is VZW will likely be using EVDO RevB which is comparable. This link also advises EVDO, what version are they talking about, RevO, RevA, or RevB????
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Sure it is debatable, but overall voice clarity is better with cdma carriers. now sure that opens up a can of worms to every die hard gsm lover, but i don't care... i know att network is not up to par to verizon or sprint.
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yeah but since they will move their voice over to WCDMA its just as good. Trust me I have used voice on WCDMA. I hate GSM but WCDMA is as good as CDMA.
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Cellenator said:
right on still at the present point i feel att network is inferior.
At the present point i KNOW the ATT network is not inferior. It totally depends on where you are.
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AvgJoe said:Cellenator said:
right on still at the present point i feel att network is inferior.
At the present point i KNOW the ATT network is not inferior. It totally depends on where you are.
You also lick windows clean but hey, everybody no matter how retarded, gets to have an opinion.
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adilus said:AvgJoe said:Cellenator said:
right on still at the present point i feel att network is inferior.
At the present point i KNOW the ATT network is not inferior. It totally depends on where you are.
You also lick windows clean but hey, everybody no matter how retarded, gets to have an opinion.
YOu need a tad more sugar in your Kool-Aid man....
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Far from it, especially since I am a Vodafone Espana customer.
Your name fits you well.
Your name fits you well.
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I prefer at&t's data, yet Verizon does have a good signal. Sprint sucks balls, as a whole.
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att data on. They don't even have 3g in allot of places. Were verizon and sprint are almost network wide. And for the most part faster. And if you are talking data then you would want sprint so you don't worry about the cap. But that would depend on what you want to do with it. But I think sprint is cheaper either way.
Myself like now I am tethered with my alltel phone using sprint because I am in cali. I am averaging 700kbs through bluetooth. And its all free don't even pay for the internet.
Myself like now I am tethered with my alltel phone using sprint because I am in cali. I am averaging 700kbs through bluetooth. And its all free don't even pay for the internet.
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But Verizon has different coverage maps depending on which service you want to use, you cannot use their picture mseesaging, mobile web, navigator in many areas where you have voice and text,
The only difference in the GSM is 3G however you canget internet service and all other digital services where there is voice,
The only difference in the GSM is 3G however you canget internet service and all other digital services where there is voice,
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umm I though you were smarter then this. But lately I think someone has your screename. You can use verizon 1xrtt data anywhere you can get a signal same as sprint. However both their EVDO covers about 75% of their network and in all major cities. Att is not in major cities. And I will take 1xrtt data with verizon or sprint over GRPS or edge.
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wombough said:
umm I though you were smarter then this. But lately I think someone has your screename. You can use verizon 1xrtt data anywhere you can get a signal same as sprint. However both their EVDO covers about 75% of their network and in all major cities. Att is not in major cities. And I will take 1xrtt data with verizon or sprint over GRPS or edge.
OF course you will.
Seems to me judging by Verizon's multiple maps of coverages you cannot use certain features when you can use voice. Otherwise why four different coverage maps?
ATT and T Mobile uses one Map its all "In Network" One can use all services from internet to photo messaging and GPS services everywhere there is voice coverage.
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They have four differant maps to show you what you can expect. Not just guessing until you get there like with att all in one map. You know if you have just 1xrtt data. EVDO rev0 or Rev a.
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you really are a retard arn't you
A vzw phone can use any vzw service it is capabe of and provisioned for wile in vzw coverage.
not everything on those maps is vzw coverage though some of that area is"extended network" aka data roaming. And some of it is on smaller carriers that might not have mms or other services available on thier network .
I know this for a fact as i am a network the and theres othing about a cell site that can stop mms messaging.
Maybe you ought to sit out a bit and let the grown ups talk before you go making yoirself look stupid.
again.
A vzw phone can use any vzw service it is capabe of and provisioned for wile in vzw coverage.
not everything on those maps is vzw coverage though some of that area is"extended network" aka data roaming. And some of it is on smaller carriers that might not have mms or other services available on thier network .
I know this for a fact as i am a network the and theres othing about a cell site that can stop mms messaging.
Maybe you ought to sit out a bit and let the grown ups talk before you go making yoirself look stupid.
again.
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Mordikar said:
you really are a retard arn't you
A vzw phone can use any vzw service it is capabe of and provisioned for wile in vzw coverage.
not everything on those maps is vzw coverage though some of that area is"extended network" aka data roaming. And some of it is on smaller carriers that might not have mms or other services available on thier network .
I know this for a fact as i am a network the and theres othing about a cell site that can stop mms messaging.
Maybe you ought to sit out a bit and let the grown ups talk before you go making yoirself look stupid.
again.
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Umm why don't you do some research. Were did you get that CDMA can't use all its services. I use m2m text, MMS, data voice all with just a signal doesn't matter if its one or 5 bars. I don't understand what you are getting at. Are you so delusional that you think CDMA works on 5 different networks or something?
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wombough said:
Umm why don't you do some research. Were did you get that CDMA can't use all its services. I use m2m text, MMS, data voice all with just a signal doesn't matter if its one or 5 bars. I don't understand what you are getting at. Are you so delusional that you think CDMA works on 5 different networks or something?
There seems to be certain areas where you can use some services but not ALL services. There are no such limitations on the GSM network If you get a signal you can use ALL services. One Map All services. No "extended service" areas or Voice and text only areas,,,,Thats what I am referring to.
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AvgJoe said:wombough said:
Umm why don't you do some research. Were did you get that CDMA can't use all its services. I use m2m text, MMS, data voice all with just a signal doesn't matter if its one or 5 bars. I don't understand what you are getting at. Are you so delusional that you think CDMA works on 5 different networks or something?
There seems to be certain areas where you can use some services but not ALL services. There are no such limitations on the GSM network If you get a signal you can use ALL services. One Map All services. No "extended service" areas or Voice and text only areas,,,,Thats what I am referring to.
And its no different on CDMA. What you are see...
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And sprint and alltel even share their evdo networks with each other. And if you have either you have access to the largest EVDO coverage by far.
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adilus said:...AvgJoe said:wombough said:
Umm why don't you do some research. Were did you get that CDMA can't use all its services. I use m2m text, MMS, data voice all with just a signal doesn't matter if its one or 5 bars. I don't understand what you are getting at. Are you so delusional that you think CDMA works on 5 different networks or something?
There seems to be certain areas where you can use some services but not ALL services. There are no such limitations on the GSM network If you get a signal you can use ALL services. One Map All services. No "extended service" areas or Voice and text only areas,,,,Thats what I am referring to.
And its no dif
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wombough said:
Att data on. They don't even have 3g in a lot of places, where Verizon and Sprint are almost network wide. And for the most part faster. And if you are talking data then you would want Sprint so you don't worry about the cap. But that would depend on what you want to do with it. But I think Sprint is cheaper either way.
Myself: like now, I am tethered with my Alltel phone using Sprint because I am in cali. I am averaging 700kbs through bluetooth. And its all free don't even pay for the internet.
But where 3g works, which, thankfully, is everywhere I go, it's sweet!
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Cellenator said:
Sure it is debatable, but overall voice clarity is better with cdma carriers. now sure that opens up a can of worms to every die hard gsm lover, but i don't care... i know att network is not up to par to verizon or sprint.
Voice quality? LOL are you making CDs of your phone calls?
I can understand every word spoken on my phone.
Voice Quality means nothing as long as you can understand what the caller is sayomg. Your "implication" is GSM has garbled Voice quality and is tough to understand LOL
The phone has as much to do with voice quality then the network anyway. There are far too many variables to put all your Verizon marbles in "Voice Quality" LOL
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I do'nt think he said veirzon only. He said CDMA and that includes alltel, sprint, verizon, metropcs, Cricket, and many other little local compaines. Not many after att and tmobile went with GSM. And yes call quality is something since that is the main reason of a phone. And I can tell when my mom calls me on her ATT cell phone. It is so obvious.
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wombough said:
I do'nt think he said veirzon only. He said CDMA and that includes alltel, sprint, verizon, metropcs, Cricket, and many other little local compaines. Not many after att and tmobile went with GSM. And yes call quality is something since that is the main reason of a phone. And I can tell when my mom calls me on her ATT cell phone. It is so obvious.
Yeah but actual phone calls are becoming second to other uses for wireless technology. OF course being a Verizon customer, those options are limited. Even on a Verizon phone with GPS you cannot use the GPS chip unless you sign up with Verizon Navigator!!!
I suppose you will be saying next the "text messages" are "clearer" as well on CDMA phones...
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at least my speakers don't start buzzing when my cdma pone starts neotiating a carrier to recieve a phone call.
Damn that annoyed me wth gsm phones...
Damn that annoyed me wth gsm phones...
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I got a weird buzzing sound when I had a Motorola Q, and that was with Verizon. Go figure.
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LG sucks, but for different reasons. The Moto Q on at&t is awesome. I play with my wife's Q all the time. Isn't it the same as Verizon's, minus the memory?
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Moto is sinking fast. They blew their wad on the RAZR. Its all about Nokia and Sony Ericcson now on the GSM side in non Qwerty phones.
And Perhaps the iPhad.
And Perhaps the iPhad.
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spell check is a waste of my time and yours since you don't understand anything.
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Wow, the Original Poster of this thread is a real idiot. I haven't seen a post this stupid and incorrect, and off base in a while on here. Wow 🙄 That site is mainly about LTE, which will be used by both Verizon and ATT, and currently, I haven't seen a significant difference in the current 3G speeds of verizon and ATT, the only difference is that Verizon has more 3G coverage.
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if sprint can get enough bank loans to stay afloat long enough to deploy wimax ....
Of late it's creditors have been seriously reconsidering thier loans as "the next great network" has failed to bail sprint out of it's custoemr and cash bleeding frenzy what ... 3 times now?
Same old song and dance. "I know we are loosing custoerms and cash left and right but really...
1x data will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint.
EVDO will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint.
EVDO Rev A will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint.
wi-max will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint. "
Of late it's creditors have been seriously reconsidering thier loans as "the next great network" has failed to bail sprint out of it's custoemr and cash bleeding frenzy what ... 3 times now?
Same old song and dance. "I know we are loosing custoerms and cash left and right but really...
1x data will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint.
EVDO will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint.
EVDO Rev A will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint.
wi-max will save us and turn everythign around and make everyone flock to sprint. "
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speeds are one thing, coverage is another. until at&t actually gets coverage (and i'm not talking about roaming coverage) in mt, nd, sd, and wy i might be convinced they're better, oh wait, not only does verizon have great coverage in these states, it also have evdo rev a coverage in wy (the least populous state i might add) and we are selling aircards like you wouldn't believe, in my store alone we sell at least 100/month because its either verizon or dialup for a large portion of the population. even in bill, wy (a town of maybe 30 people) verizon has coverage. i don't care if its not a big market we produce over 2/3's of the nation's coal as well as a large portion of the nation's oil and methane...we're a fast growing state, while the r...
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durkadurkha said:
😲 here is finally proof from a 100% reliable source.
everyone knows motorola they make your guys moto q, z6, v9m and v3 maxx
for all of those "I'll Die for Verizon" out there when HSxPA is used its refurring to hsdpa and/or hsupa (because Downlink does not effect Uplink speeds)
http://business.motorola.com/experiencelte/lte-exper ... »
EVDO: (downlink/uplink)
CDMA EVDO Rev 0: 2.4Mbps/155Kbps
CDMA EVDO Rev A: 3.1Mbps/1.8Mbps
CDMA EVDO Rev B: 73.5Mbps/27Mbps
CDMA EVDO Rev C (UMB): 129Mbps/75.6Mbps
HSPA-HSDPA/HSUPA: (downlink/uplink)
UMTS 384Kbps/128Kbps
HSDPA 7.2Mbps/384Kbps
HSDPA/UPA 7.2Mbps/2Mbps
HSPA-E 42Mbs/11Mb/s
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