VZW sucks
Both those companies have released leading edge phones with the k850 and N95. They have always made rock solid phones and most likely do not want
their phones "less than" what they are designed to do.
Second tier makers like Samsung, LG and Audiovox apparently don't care what Verizon wants to do with their phones as long as they get to sell a few phones.
AvgJoe said:
It's not Verizon. Its the phone makers who don't want to build for Verizon who will make their phones all look and act alike. Thats why they don't have the largest and best phone makers making a line phones for them. Sony/Ericcson and Nokia comes to mind.
Both those companies have released leading edge phones with the k850 and N95. They have always made rock solid phones and most likely do not want
their phones "less than" what they are designed to do.
Second tier makers like Samsung, LG and Audiovox apparently don't care what Verizon wants to do with their phones as long as they get to sell a few phones.
How many people are buying $800 N95s?
Only those who do research and appreciate what that phone offers will buy it. Not those who live from upgrade to upgrade for a "new" phone.
The former is obviously in the minority but it's nice to have a CHOICE and FLEXIBILITY to enjoy that technology and specific GUI. Something you don't see a lot of at Verizon.
The ATT signals are not as bad as many users think. In many places they are better then Verizon
In many places they are worse. If you are fortunate enough to be in a strong ATT area you will have the flexibility and choices Verizon does not offer.
If not, You're stuck with Red.
VZW, like the other carriers, is catering to the masses, not the snippet of the market that is cost prohibitive. There is a thing in the business world called "economies of scale."
Verizon going fully open source is like Apple allowing unlocked phones.
I have to see it to believe it and lets see what Verizon'z definition of OPEN is. That will be revealing.
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Rx said:
I lead a group of people that all use VZW for the coverage. That is why I do not switch. It would cost them money to call me. This is not about me, it is about a company that needs to offer more than just coverage. As I said in the last post, everyone will have great coverage in a short period of time and they will be charging less for it. If were just me, I would have changed a year ago.
Doesn't Verizon have nights and week ends free calling to anyone anywhere? You would only miss those pesky daytime calls. My family up north has to pay to make a daytime call to me. So be it. I pay for what I want not whats slightly less expensive for them.
Rx said:
I guess I'm just in a bad mood, and I'm taking out on VZW. Why can't this company get with the times and get new equipment out. The caveman discovered fire quicker than this company can come out with a smart phone that does not weigh 5 pounds and does not cost you 50 bucks a month just to get e-mail. Where is the curve VZW. Take your music and your 1.2 MP camera phones and give them away to someone who gives a s... about that crap. Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage. Start working on the equipment side of the equation. Can you hear me now VZW. If you can hear, you are not listening!
umm...the Pearl meets all of your requirements....
markgnyc2 said:...Rx said:
I guess I'm just in a bad mood, and I'm taking out on VZW. Why can't this company get with the times and get new equipment out. The caveman discovered fire quicker than this company can come out with a smart phone that does not weigh 5 pounds and does not cost you 50 bucks a month just to get e-mail. Where is the curve VZW. Take your music and your 1.2 MP camera phones and give them away to someone who gives a s... about that crap. Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage. Start working on the equipment side of the equation. Can you hear me now VZW. If you can hear, you are not listening!
umm...the Pearl meets all of your requ
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LordObento said:
I agree with the rest of these people. If don't like what VZW offers... what keeps you here?
It's the Network........
Rx said:
I guess I'm just in a bad mood, and I'm taking out on VZW. Why can't this company get with the times and get new equipment out. The caveman discovered fire quicker than this company can come out with a smart phone that does not weigh 5 pounds and does not cost you 50 bucks a month just to get e-mail. Where is the curve VZW. Take your music and your 1.2 MP camera phones and give them away to someone who gives a s... about that crap. Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage. Start working on the equipment side of the equation. Can you hear me now VZW. If you can hear, you are not listening!
Listen to me man.
Verizon;s color is RED. The color of the old Social...
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Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage.
Bullchit. It'd be nice, but... nope. Unless you're talking getting ANY kind of signal, even a crappy one. ๐ฒ
The net additions of ATT is telling as ATT pulls away from Big Red.
LOL, not really, ATT is still the same ol' ATT that used to lose to VZW quarter after quarter in net adds. The only difference now is the iPhone. And even with all the hype it brings, they still aren't "pulling away" by near as much as some ppl expected them to.
Heck, it took the iPhone PLUS Amp'd self-destructing for ATT to eke out a narrow win in Q2.
Going forward, the iPhone will be less of a big deal as more and more competi...
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the_eraser said:
Hmmm, the Amp Mobile excuse will not work for you this time, as it seems like AT&T will "pull ahead" by 500,000 this time around... Ouch!
Even if ya did, you're still gonna lose in churn, revenue, and postpaid customers. And that's WITH Apple on your side. Ouch! ๐
chocolateman85006 said:
How is CDMA better for old people?? ๐คจ
They can upgrade phones without re learning a GUI. They don't care about open source or unlocked phones.File transfer and BT is alien to them.
They just want to make phone calls simple and easy. They could care less about choice and flexibility.
AvgJoe said:
They could care less about choice and flexibility.
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How dare people make choices for themselves.
Don't they know the choices you have made are the best choice for them as well...
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captainplooky said:AvgJoe said:
They could care less about choice and flexibility.
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How dare people make choices for themselves.
Don't they know the choices you have made are the best choice for them as well...
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Now you are speaking in terms Verizon user's can understand. Sounds like it came straight from the corporate mission statement.
captainplooky said:
How dare people make choices for themselves.
Don't they know the choices you have made are the best choice for them as well...
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Said Verizon's CEO......Better Red than dead....
Not that you ever understood what words like communism or fascism actually mean. ๐
SystemShock said:
Communism is so over...even China isn't really commie anymore, they wanna be rich and drive around in Mercedes-Benzs.
Not that you ever understood what words like communism or fascism actually mean. ๐
Somebody better tell Verizon communism is over.
Oh and don't kid yourself China is very communist. Get an education sometime this century and you won't make dumb statements like "Communism is so over...even China isn't really commie anymore,"
C'mon dude, we all know you shop there. In fact, you probably WORK there. ๐
SystemShock said:
I guess the fact that all the stuff you buy in Wal-Mart is made in China has escaped your notice, Myron. Sounds like communism to me. Not! ๐คฃ
C'mon dude, we all know you shop there. In fact, you probably WORK there. ๐
Man you need to go back and take a history lesson CHINA is a communist country, Communist countries use their labor force to create goods for the others.
Try reading a book now and then. You are beginning to look foolish claiming China is not Communist....Really!
Now, Step 1: Take off the pair of She-Hulk underoos you are currently wearing.
Step 2: Search for the label. Hopefully you have not soiled it.
Step 3: Found it? Good. Now get someone to help you READ it.
Step 4: It will say the following: "Made in China."
Hopefully that will clear up the whole Communist vs Capitalist thing for ya. ๐คฃ
SystemShock said:
Myron, I'll help you out on this one. But only 'cuz I'm a nice guy, and I take pity on the ignorant. Like you. ๐
Now, Step 1: Take off the pair of She-Hulk underoos you are currently wearing.
Step 2: Search for the label. Hopefully you have not soiled it.
Step 3: Found it? Good. Now get someone to help you READ it.
Step 4: It will say the following: "Made in China."
Hopefully that will clear up the whole Communist vs Capitalist thing for ya. ๐คฃ
So let me see if I have this right....
Only non Communist countries make and export goods?
Wow Lie I said pick up one of those things with lots of paper between cardboard, Open it and ask someone to read it to you........
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Maybe after you get done taking history in high school you will understand... no wait, you wont because you wont listen to anything the teacher says ๐คฃ
primus said:
Avgjoe, you would understand if you had any grasp at all about what a true communist country was.
Maybe after you get done taking history in high school you will understand... no wait, you wont because you wont listen to anything the teacher says ๐คฃ
Too true. ๐
Guess AJ/Myron just couldn't stay awake in Poly Sci class. That's why he never went to law school, and is currently serving folks fries in the Wal-Mart food court. ๐ฒ
SystemShock said:primus said:
Avgjoe, you would understand if you had any grasp at all about what a true communist country was.
Maybe after you get done taking history in high school you will understand... no wait, you wont because you wont listen to anything the teacher says ๐คฃ
Too true. ๐
Guess AJ/Myron just couldn't stay awake in Poly Sci class. That's why he never went to law school, and is currently serving folks fries in the Wal-Mart food court. ๐ฒ
http://www.chinatoday.com/org/cpc/ »
Enough said. I 'll do your homework for you just this once. Then you kids are going to have to study on your own.
AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:primus said:
Avgjoe, you would understand if you had any grasp at all about what a true communist country was.
Maybe after you get done taking history in high school you will understand... no wait, you wont because you wont listen to anything the teacher says ๐คฃ
Too true. ๐
Guess AJ/Myron just couldn't stay awake in Poly Sci class. That's why he never went to law school, and is currently serving folks fries in the Wal-Mart food court. ๐ฒ
http://www.chinatoday.com/org/cpc/ »
Enough said. I 'll do your homework for you just this once. Then you kids are going to have to study on your own.
Poor M...
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SystemShock said:...AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:primus said:
Avgjoe, you would understand if you had any grasp at all about what a true communist country was.
Maybe after you get done taking history in high school you will understand... no wait, you wont because you wont listen to anything the teacher says ๐คฃ
Too true. ๐
Guess AJ/Myron just couldn't stay awake in Poly Sci class. That's why he never went to law school, and is currently serving folks fries in the Wal-Mart food court. ๐ฒ
http://www.chinatoday.com/org/cpc/ »
Enough said. I 'll do your homework for you just this once. Then you kids are going to have to s
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http://books.google.com/books?id=TiKKmyacAiAC&dq=com ... »
dssl said:
at&t forces people with the iphones pricing and also contracts just for a sim card. please go troll back in the at&t side.
Like I said Its no wonder Verizon was offered the iPhone first. It's more in line with Verizon business practices.
I abhor the iPhad and would never buy one. Not even for $100.
AvgJoe said:dssl said:
at&t forces people with the iphones pricing and also contracts just for a sim card. please go troll back in the at&t side.
Like I said Its no wonder Verizon was offered the iPhone first. It's more in line with Verizon business practices.
I abhor the iPhad and would never buy one. Not even for $100.
Why would you hate the iPod? It's the only thing thats been keeping ATT from continuing its losing streak to Verizon in net adds.
You should be kissing Steve Jobs rear end. ๐คฃ
SystemShock said:Its the network stupid!!!AvgJoe said:dssl said:
at&t forces people with the iphones pricing and also contracts just for a sim card. please go troll back in the at&t side.
Like I said Its no wonder Verizon was offered the iPhone first. It's more in line with Verizon business practices.
I abhor the iPhad and would never buy one. Not even for $100.
Why would you hate the iPod? It's the only thing thats been keeping ATT from continuing its losing streak to Verizon in net adds.
You should be kissing Steve Jobs rear end. ๐คฃ
I cold care less About ATT as a company. It doesn't matter to me who owns the GSM netowrk....
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AvgJoe said:...SystemShock said:Its the network stupid!!!AvgJoe said:dssl said:
at&t forces people with the iphones pricing and also contracts just for a sim card. please go troll back in the at&t side.
Like I said Its no wonder Verizon was offered the iPhone first. It's more in line with Verizon business practices.
I abhor the iPhad and would never buy one. Not even for $100.
Why would you hate the iPhone? It's the only thing thats been keeping ATT from continuing its losing streak to Verizon in net adds.
You should be kissing Steve Jobs rear end. ๐คฃ
I cold care less About ATT as a company. It doesn't mat
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SystemShock said:
Far as your GSM goes, its older and lamer than your political knowledge. I'm sure cavemen were talking on GSM handsets. ๐คฃ
Yeah..show me where your found China is no longer Communist country....(This should be a riot)
As far as cavemen goes, Even cavemen want freedom of choice and flexibility...after all they ARE human.
I totally understand why you believe China is not run by the PRC...especially being a Verizon fan boy.
AvgJoe said:
I don't understand history or political science at all and just want attention by arguing on and on and on even though I know I'm wrong. Please be my friend, even the other ATT fanboys hate me and won't talk to me due to my appalling lack of social skills.
SystemShock, will you be my friend?
Above quote, fixed. ๐
primus said:
Maybe you should take some time away from having sex with your phone to read up on the topics your posting about?
The irony here is that's bout the ONLY thing the N82 DOESN'T do. In fact other than your statement I wold not think that was possible/
I guess only you actually know.
Rx said:
I guess I'm just in a bad mood, and I'm taking out on VZW. Why can't this company get with the times and get new equipment out. The caveman discovered fire quicker than this company can come out with a smart phone that does not weigh 5 pounds and does not cost you 50 bucks a month just to get e-mail. Where is the curve VZW. Take your music and your 1.2 MP camera phones and give them away to someone who gives a s... about that crap. Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage. Start working on the equipment side of the equation. Can you hear me now VZW. If you can hear, you are not listening!
You are what is wrong with cell phone customers.
vzman23 said:...Rx said:
I guess I'm just in a bad mood, and I'm taking out on VZW. Why can't this company get with the times and get new equipment out. The caveman discovered fire quicker than this company can come out with a smart phone that does not weigh 5 pounds and does not cost you 50 bucks a month just to get e-mail. Where is the curve VZW. Take your music and your 1.2 MP camera phones and give them away to someone who gives a s... about that crap. Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage. Start working on the equipment side of the equation. Can you hear me now VZW. If you can hear, you are not listening!
You are what is wrong with cell phone cu
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Sgt_Joker said:
Nah GSM really sucks!! static static
With my brother, it was more like garbled calls. That's what made him punt ATT, and go back to VZW. It just infuriated him after awhile. โน๏ธ
primus said:
pfft, avgjoe doesnt want phone service. Just look at some of his other posts where he wants phones that can do transfer funtions without using the network they work on.. I guess when you have AT&T you have to be able to do things that dont require your carrier network to be available? ๐คฃ
Nah you don't HAVE to. you GET to......I know being a member of the Peoples Republic of VEriaon you won't understand that.
AvgJoe said:primus said:
pfft, avgjoe doesnt want phone service. Just look at some of his other posts where he wants phones that can do transfer funtions without using the network they work on.. I guess when you have AT&T you have to be able to do things that dont require your carrier network to be available? ๐คฃ
Nah you don't HAVE to. you GET to......I know being a member of the Peoples Republic of VEriaon you won't understand that.
Oh, just shut up. You can barely spell communism, less know what it is. ๐
So now you have changed your mind and VZW is a republic instead of communist state?
primus said:
Way to keep up at showing everyone how ignorant you are!
So now you have changed your mind and VZW is a republic instead of communist state?
Yeah the People's Republic of Verizon
The Social(ist) phone Carrier.
SystemShock said:
Don't know what to tell ya.... here in NorCal, VZW owns ATT.
Nationally ATT owns Verizon.....And?
AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:
Don't know what to tell ya.... here in NorCal, VZW owns ATT.
Nationally ATT owns Verizon.....And?
Ah, but they sure don't. VZW continually whups ATT's butt in JD Power and Consumer Reports, and has had better churn for years, quarter after quarter. ๐
But, at least ATT has kewl ads with lots of things arranged in sets of five with varying heights. I guess its a metaphor for mediocre service or something. ๐
SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:
Don't know what to tell ya.... here in NorCal, VZW owns ATT.
Nationally ATT owns Verizon.....And?
Ah, but they sure don't. VZW continually whups ATT's butt in JD Power and Consumer Reports, and has had better churn for years, quarter after quarter. ๐
But, at least ATT has kewl ads with lots of things arranged in sets of five with varying heights. I guess its a metaphor for mediocre service or something. ๐
Well they must be doing something right 25% more people signed up with ATT this past Quarter. I'll bet Verizon churn went up as well.
AvgJoe said:...SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:
Don't know what to tell ya.... here in NorCal, VZW owns ATT.
Nationally ATT owns Verizon.....And?
Ah, but they sure don't. VZW continually whups ATT's butt in JD Power and Consumer Reports, and has had better churn for years, quarter after quarter. ๐
But, at least ATT has kewl ads with lots of things arranged in sets of five with varying heights. I guess its a metaphor for mediocre service or something. ๐
Well they must be doing something right 25% more people signed up with ATT this past Quarter. I'll bet Verizon churn went up as well.
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I guess Verizon's crippling of file "off network" file transfers is paying of big!
AvgJoe said:
What really stikes me is the 11.3 Billion.
I guess Verizon's crippling of file "off network" file transfers is paying of big!
Way ta change the subject.
If it was the other way around, and ATT was making more money than VZW, you'd be crowing about that. ๐
Guess if ATT makes more money, that's great, but if VZW makes more, then they're 'greedy'. ๐คฃ
joey
As far as your actual post goes I guess I could feel your pain with pda's and smartphones if I actually used one. But as far as phones go I have looked around at the phones all the other carriers offer. There is not one phone out there I would rather have than any of the vzw phones I've had.
duckbutter said:
Did you honestly think nobody would bash you in a verizon forum where you titled your thread vzw sucks.
True dat. People post threads with titles like that on a vzw forum, and then whine when they get some push back? Too funny. ๐
Kind of reminds me of bratty kids in kindergarten, who run to the teacher crying, "H-he hit me BACK!!". ๐คฃ
Rx
Rx said:
You are what is wrong with people that don't have a solution, so you bash the messenger. If you don't have a solution, then talk to a wall if you feel the need to express your useless opinion.
Fine you want it fixed? Come up with something better? I'm waiting. Let's see how fast you can accomplish this. Clock is ticking.
As for not having a solution, VZ has released more than 10 phones in the last few months. If you can't find something you like you'll never be happy. Go with a different carrier - no one will care. You're probably a customer who just wants to bitch and moan anyway.
You're probably one of the customers Sprint disconnected for bitching too much.
No cell phone company is perfect in all catogories as you might think. Verizon has I think the best customer service of all. You can't compare GSM to CDMA not the same. Gsm phones come out like a dime a dozen since there is less involved than CDMA. Verizon also really checks out there phones sometimes maybe not as good as they should but better than some. Take the Iphone that was a rush to get that out and look at the people who had problems with that.
I am not saying Verizon is perfect because they are not. But they are better than others.
What a difference a year makes!
Last week I left AT&T and the iPhone behind and ported to Verizon and I could not be happier. In this last year, the signal has become stronger, and VCast is great.
Some folks rip on VZW because they are simple and easy regarding phones. I thought that I needed an unlocked phone, but didn't. I thought I would enjoy the iPhone, but didn't. In the end, all I wanted (and needed) was a simple clamshell phone, which I have found with the LG 8350 and Verizon. The local AT&T store offerings for clamshell phones ...
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Rx said:
I guess I'm just in a bad mood, and I'm taking out on VZW. Why can't this company get with the times and get new equipment out. The caveman discovered fire quicker than this company can come out with a smart phone that does not weigh 5 pounds and does not cost you 50 bucks a month just to get e-mail. Where is the curve VZW. Take your music and your 1.2 MP camera phones and give them away to someone who gives a s... about that crap. Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage. Start working on the equipment side of the equation. Can you hear me now VZW. If you can hear, you are not listening!
If everyone had good coverage. then people wouldnt be dumping their curr...
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Thanks,
Rx
Rx
Platypus said:
So basically this entire thread was about when will verizon get the Curve ๐ ๐คฃ
Allegedly sometime in Q1. Though the ATT trolls will whine and scream "No way, never gunna happen!"
Then of course, it will, and then they'll cry about it, or start saying "the Curve ain't that good!" once VZW has it. ๐
the_eraser said:
the curve won't be any good by the time you guys get it in 2010.
VZW will get it this year. And we'll remember the date, 'cuz you'll be in here crying about it, like always. ๐
IamTheGodfather said:...Rx said:
I guess I'm just in a bad mood, and I'm taking out on VZW. Why can't this company get with the times and get new equipment out. The caveman discovered fire quicker than this company can come out with a smart phone that does not weigh 5 pounds and does not cost you 50 bucks a month just to get e-mail. Where is the curve VZW. Take your music and your 1.2 MP camera phones and give them away to someone who gives a s... about that crap. Good coverage will only take you so far. Everyone has good coverage. Start working on the equipment side of the equation. Can you hear me now VZW. If you can hear, you are not listening!
If everyone had good coverage.
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Rx said:
Get some good phones??? we have more than the rest , and we quality inspect our phones so they dont turn out like a Sony Ericson did for gAyT&T. So that means we never release junk.
I don't know about that one.. VZW did a pretty huge mistake when releasing the chocolate- even then new one (8550) sucks - Hm. I think that may be the only phone that just stops working.
and also learned that he knows very little about government types.
so, I did learn something.
I learned nothing new about VZW or AT&T, but I got to see so many lies posted that it isnt worth my time correcting the people (mostly AvgJoe) ๐