Iphone
okay I have messed aroudn with the Voyager phone and thought it was okay. Does Verizon have any plans to bring out its own version of the Iphone in the forseeable future?
If not can someone give me some ideas as to what to get from Verizon that is comparable to the IPHONE. I know there really isnt really comparable but you all get the drift.
Thanks
If not can someone give me some ideas as to what to get from Verizon that is comparable to the IPHONE. I know there really isnt really comparable but you all get the drift.
Thanks
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The only thing I like alot about the iphone is the internet browser. Everything else stinks.
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okay but the voyager doesnt have the full browser like that iphone hence why i am looking for something that has a full browser
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Verizon cripples thier phones, fact... Dont like it change to att
im in no way saying att is a better company, just stating a fact
im in no way saying att is a better company, just stating a fact
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Okay once again whats that have to do with getting help with finding a phone similar to the Iphone. Hmmm let me re-read your post thebiggestguy.....NOTHING. I know what verizon does to their phones man.
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Your right.. The only comparable phone(if you want to call it that) is the voyager. Verizon also declined an offer to sell the prada phone so I dont expect to see anything coming from verizon in the near future. Anyone know of any phones coming out 1st or 2nd quarter for verizon?
I know att is releasing an upgraded Iphone which includes more memory, and 3g access..
I know att is releasing an upgraded Iphone which includes more memory, and 3g access..
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No, Verizon actually turned Apple down, because they were the first carrier offered the iPhone. You may ask why, but the reasons are plenty. If you have problems with the iPhone, then you're going to have a terrible time replacing it, on top of the fact that even if you need a new battery, you've got to send it in to Apple. Verizon didn't want a phone that they couldn't replace, because they don't want their customers going back and forth, which is really frustrating to do. Also, the connectivity was terrible w/ CDMA, their ESN chip had horrible connection w/ the network.
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i did hear rumor that verizon was thinking about bringing on the 2nd generation of iphones.. later this year. like 3rd or 4th quarter of 08..any comments?
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stupark said:
okay but the voyager doesnt have the full browser like that iphone hence why i am looking for something that has a full browser
um it does...
a lot of people use the optimized browser which sucks... use the full browser and you have a full browser
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click menu, view, then your options are text only, optimized, and full. I personally like the optimized browser so you don't have to scroll left to right.
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thank you for letting them know...i mean all the information about the voyager says its a full HTML browswer 🙂
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ok you want a great browser are you willing to give up fast speed just for looks?
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How about a Blackberry Pearl and Ipod Touch...thats what I use and its wonderful...the best of both worlds!
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stupark said:
hmm the blackberry pearl and an ipod touch? that might be an idea
Trust me...its the best idea if you want that kind of functionality.
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so the blackberry pearl and an ipod touch. nah thats too expensive. ill just deal with my lg vx8600 and grab an mp3 player. thats a little overkill with all them devices.
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have you got you hands on the new vx6800? it out does the iphone. i my self have an iphone i would trade it in any day for a vx6800
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yea the vx6800 its the upgrade of the vx6700 pocket pc/pda its been out for almost a month now. you shoud stop by a store play with one you'll like it. its packed with the latest greatest software
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callring96 said:
yea the vx6800 its the upgrade of the vx6700 pocket pc/pda its been out for almost a month now. you shoud stop by a store play with one you'll like it. its packed with the latest greatest software
He means XV6800 instead of VX6800
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the mogul.. its by HTC.. very very nice phone.. love the big touch screen.. and full slideout qwerty keyboard.. and omg.. the WiFi switch.. hell ya
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If you want the something like the IPhone for Verizon you might as well give up. Won't happen Voyager is not that great of a phone. I tried the Iphone but I hate ATT. If you can put up with Att and there customer service etc than switch and go get your Iphone.
I would never carry 2 devices if my goal was only to have one for convience. Ipod touch and the pearl nice choice if you do that. I have the Pearl now and I like it.
I would never carry 2 devices if my goal was only to have one for convience. Ipod touch and the pearl nice choice if you do that. I have the Pearl now and I like it.
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just a suggestion, how about the samsung i760,
I personally have the voyager and love it. It the ui and touch better on an iphone...yes, but in general touch has issues and can get annoying, such as typing your voicemail password at night in your car, a time where actual buttons would be nice, or when you are sending a lot of text, that is where the voyager comes in, no way i am giving up that internal keyboard and going touch only...way to annoying, i use my phone way to much. plus the extras you get with the voyager are nice, ...removable battery, vcast/vcast tv(if you want it)navigator, Bluetooth(you can sync your outlook calender through bluetooth, something unavailavble on iphone which is headset only. Plus i can send ringtones throug...
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I personally have the voyager and love it. It the ui and touch better on an iphone...yes, but in general touch has issues and can get annoying, such as typing your voicemail password at night in your car, a time where actual buttons would be nice, or when you are sending a lot of text, that is where the voyager comes in, no way i am giving up that internal keyboard and going touch only...way to annoying, i use my phone way to much. plus the extras you get with the voyager are nice, ...removable battery, vcast/vcast tv(if you want it)navigator, Bluetooth(you can sync your outlook calender through bluetooth, something unavailavble on iphone which is headset only. Plus i can send ringtones throug...
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I may just get a blackberry. I like the samsung my buddy has one who works for verizon wireless and he seems to like it. so that may be the way to go.
I am basically looking for a phone that has a qwerty keyboard and an internet browser. which would be the voyager, or a blackberry. Oh well. I will have to wait and see.
I am basically looking for a phone that has a qwerty keyboard and an internet browser. which would be the voyager, or a blackberry. Oh well. I will have to wait and see.
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If you do not like the Voyager, then I would recommend getting the XV5800. It's not touch screen but navigating it with the buttons is really easy.
Blackberry is owned by Research in Motion (RIM), not Samsung.
Blackberry is owned by Research in Motion (RIM), not Samsung.
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BROWN27 said:
But they will get it, so I just solved the OP problem 😉
Yeah they will get today's iPhone while ATT has iPhone V.
Just switch to a GSM network and be done with it. Seems ATT is pulling away from Verizon in new additions anyway.
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pulling away C'mon, sure it looks like they will beat verizon this quarter..I woudn't call that pulling away. But whatever good for att!
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BROWN27 said:
pulling away C'mon, sure it looks like they will beat verizon this quarter..I woudn't call that pulling away. But whatever good for att!
Looks like you missed the boat on that one buddy. VZW turned in the best over-all performance and revenue. I wouldnt call that pulling away either. I would call that still in 2nd place. wtg gAyT&T.
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and wait till 1stQ 08 then we will see who's laughing. VZW's got 2008 on lock! 🤣
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what do you know that you should pass on? im a sprint rep, but a vzww customer. i just got into the voyager. badarse phone btw imo. an i still got an upgrade in aug that i pondering using if anything better comin out with touchscreen. i've been through the V, the enV and now into the voyager.. LG has come a long way
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AvgJoe said:BROWN27 said:
But they will get it, so I just solved the OP problem 😉
Yeah they will get today's iPhone while ATT has iPhone V.
Just switch to a GSM network and be done with it. Seems ATT is pulling away from Verizon in new additions anyway.
att is pulling away in pre paid, which on a average is canceled with in the first 6 months.
verizon still kicks att ass on post paid CONTRACTS which is the true name of the game.
do some homework before you bring your GSM loving fan boy ass over here.
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wfine81 said:
Not for at least another 4 1/2 years, ATT has it exclusively for 5 years.
yeah thats why tmobile in europe has it right now??? pwnage
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IamTheGodfather said:is europe in the usa.wfine81 said:
Not for at least another 4 1/2 years, ATT has it exclusively for 5 years.
yeah thats why tmobile in europe has it right now??? pwnage
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mitchell1 said:IamTheGodfather said:is europe in the usa.wfine81 said:
Not for at least another 4 1/2 years, ATT has it exclusively for 5 years.
yeah thats why tmobile in europe has it right now??? pwnage
Word is that the way the 'five year ATT exclusive' is structured is that its two years ironclad, with an option to go five years. An option Apple will almost certainly NOT exercise.
After all, why sell iPhones to only ATT customers (about 25% of the market), when you can sell to 100% of the market instead? Apple's no dummy, and ATT's already done their job of promoting the iPhone.
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robtheman said:
Apple did a much better job marketing the iPhone than AT&T.
I agree (Apple's better than almost anyone at marketing), but it went beyond just marketing. ATT was also willing to modify their systems to accomodate certain iPhone features, like visual voicemail.
And most importantly of all, in Apple's eyes, ATT was willing to agree to Apple's terms, which included ATT kicking back a portion of monthly service fees to Apple. In return, ATT got exclusivity for awhile.
Its the same deal Apple offered earlier to Verizon, but which VZW said no to.
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You guys a re pathetic.....This thread looks very much like the "I wonder when Verizon will get the RAZR thread.....Always behind the trends for a "leading Carrier" Ya think?
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We're pathetic? LOL, you're the lame troll, my friend, not us. 😁
And yeah, woohoo, ATT was so desperate that they were willing to bend over and let Apple plow them to their heart's content. Meanwhile, let's remember that Apple tried to do a deal with VZW first, and VZW said no.
VZW was smart... they knew they'd get the iPhone sooner or later, and that they didn't have to give away the farm to get it. Meanwhile, ATT was Apple's second choice, the 'dirty girl' who always puts out. 😁
And yeah, woohoo, ATT was so desperate that they were willing to bend over and let Apple plow them to their heart's content. Meanwhile, let's remember that Apple tried to do a deal with VZW first, and VZW said no.
VZW was smart... they knew they'd get the iPhone sooner or later, and that they didn't have to give away the farm to get it. Meanwhile, ATT was Apple's second choice, the 'dirty girl' who always puts out. 😁
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SystemShock said:
We're pathetic? LOL, you're the lame troll, my friend, not us. 😁
And yeah, woohoo, ATT was so desperate that they were willing to bend over and let Apple plow them to their heart's content. Meanwhile, let's remember that Apple tried to do a deal with VZW first, and VZW said no.
VZW was smart... they knew they'd get the iPhone sooner or later, and that they didn't have to give away the farm to get it. Meanwhile, ATT was Apple's second choice, the 'dirty girl' who always puts out. 😁
Exactly and as long as she is putting out
Native GUI
Fully implimented BT phones
Open source Operating Systems
Data free GPS
%MP flash cameras ans 30FPS video
WiFi
PDA
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AvgJoe said:
and allowing unlocked unbranded phones on their network I will be happy to bed down with her...
Careful. You may catch something. 🤣
And I'd be happy to consider ATT... once their network and CS improves. 'til then, its all window dressing to me. I won't accept second-rate service, and that's exactly what ATT is in my area. Sadly. ☹️
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SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
and allowing unlocked unbranded phones on their network I will be happy to bed down with her...
Careful. You may catch something. 🤣
And I'd be happy to consider ATT... once their network and CS improves. 'til then, its all window dressing to me. I won't accept second-rate service, and that's exactly what ATT is in my area. Sadly. ☹️
Yeah I'll catch something
Open source native operating systems, BT file transfer, Switching between multiple phones any where anytime with all contacts, FREE ringtone transfer between phones and/or pictures via IR or BT......Yeah I'll 'catch that..No I already have that.
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Yawwwnnnnn.... you sound like an ATT commercial. 🤣
Good lord man. Get a life.
And sry dude, but read my lips.. I'M... NOT... SWITCHING.
'cuz ATT SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS in my area.
Get it?
Got it?
Good.
Yeesh. 🙄
Good lord man. Get a life.
And sry dude, but read my lips.. I'M... NOT... SWITCHING.
'cuz ATT SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS in my area.
Get it?
Got it?
Good.
Yeesh. 🙄
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By the time the contract with AT&T is up, Apple will have new versions of the iPhone and new contracts. I really doubt that any other company will ever see the iPhone.
Well...GSM companies can unlock it and use it, but you know what I mean...
Well...GSM companies can unlock it and use it, but you know what I mean...
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Apple wants all the market share they can get so eventually they will make a CDMA version.
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But do you think Verizon will allow it be sold as is....isn't that why Verizon passed on it in the first place, didn't like the terms of the agreement apple wanted, and didn't like Apple's demands to have 100% control over the UI and features of the phone?
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IMO yes they will allow it, they have to times are changing rapidly and even stubborn verizon knows this, they can't keep going with there same old attitude hence why they are allowing open access this year. They will cave.
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VZW is not going to deal with all that foolishness from Apple. They can get another manufacturer to make something better and not have to pay them money based on subs etc.
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Well see but the iphone is experiencing great momentum, and a brand loyalty following which is growing at a rapid pace, plus the iphone is being incorporated into everything including brand new cars. They can make all the touch screens they want, it will not be an iphone. When the iphone buzz first started Rich said it will not take five years for a cdma version to hit, apple can call it something else and make a cdma verizon, just like a ipod nano for example. All carriers will offer an iphone eventually.
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lilgabe1 said:
VZW is not going to deal with all that foolishness from Apple. They can get another manufacturer to make something better and not have to pay them money based on subs etc.
So far, VZW has failed at every attempt to bring something to the "iphone battle arena" (LOL).
Voyager's browser can not play videos (itouch and iphone can). Voyager's browser is not as easy to use (opinion, not fact).
As for aesthetics, man, iphone wins hands down. It just looks sweet. VZW's manufacturers haven't done one thing: Get in touch with the consumers "eye candy" factor.
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iphone browser can play videos? as in quicktime videos?
weird cause i tried to load one at the apple store and it wasn't working
weird cause i tried to load one at the apple store and it wasn't working
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Verizon wireless will never have the iPhone.
This is not my opinion, this is a fact.
iPhone is a GSM phone, with exclusive contracts between Apple and AT&T.
Verizon is CDMA
AT&T is GSM
2 vastly different cellurlar technologies.
Its is literally impossible to use an iPhone on a Verizon CDMA network.
IF and this is a big IF, 3 years from now when the exclusive contracts run out and Apple hasnt already come out with something 50 times cooler already, you might see a neutered, stripped, locked down, crappy CDMA version of the iphone.
By that time you wont even want one.
This is not my opinion, this is a fact.
iPhone is a GSM phone, with exclusive contracts between Apple and AT&T.
Verizon is CDMA
AT&T is GSM
2 vastly different cellurlar technologies.
Its is literally impossible to use an iPhone on a Verizon CDMA network.
IF and this is a big IF, 3 years from now when the exclusive contracts run out and Apple hasnt already come out with something 50 times cooler already, you might see a neutered, stripped, locked down, crappy CDMA version of the iphone.
By that time you wont even want one.
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johnnj2003 said:
Verizon wireless will never have the iPhone.
This is not my opinion, this is a fact.
iPhone is a GSM phone, with exclusive contracts between Apple and AT&T.
Verizon is CDMA
AT&T is GSM
Uhhh.... were you aware that carriers release phones on both CDMA and GSM all the time?
I remember some silly person sayin' a few years back that Verizon will "NEVER get the RAZR, 'cuz its a GSM phone."
Then of course, Moto came out with a CDMA RAZR. 🤣
Additionally, ATT's '5 year exclusive' is rumored to be actually 2 years, with an option to go five. An option Apple will very likely not exercise.
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At&t has exclusive contracts for minimum of 2 years with the iPhone.
That is my core point.
Verizon is a CDMA based provider
AT&T is a GSM based provider.
I am ONLY talking about the 2
I never said multi band phones dont exist.
Of course they do.
Now, had Verizon agreed to be the EXCLUSIVE provider like At&t agreed to, then
all the iPhones out there today would have CDMA chipsets embedded in them instead of the SIM CARD BASED GSM chipsets that are in them now.
Thats all I meant. I dont mean to upset anyone.
That is my core point.
Verizon is a CDMA based provider
AT&T is a GSM based provider.
I am ONLY talking about the 2
I never said multi band phones dont exist.
Of course they do.
Now, had Verizon agreed to be the EXCLUSIVE provider like At&t agreed to, then
all the iPhones out there today would have CDMA chipsets embedded in them instead of the SIM CARD BASED GSM chipsets that are in them now.
Thats all I meant. I dont mean to upset anyone.
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johnnj2003 said:
At&t has exclusive contracts for minimum of 2 years with the iPhone.
That is my core point.
Its my point as well.
All I'm saying is that once the 2-year exclusive is up (in mid-'09), there's really nothing preventing Apple from making a CDMA version for VZW, other than whether or not VZW is willing to accept Apple's contract terms.
The whole CDMA/GSM thing isn't as big a deal as you'd think... both technologies are tried and true, and the parts are readily available. If there's money to be made in making a CDMA version, Apple will happily do so, once the exclusive expires.
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(your name is cool btw)
The GSM razr is completely different internally
from the CDMA razr.
So yes the phone came out, but it was the same phone by name only, internally it was way different.
Also, I heard about a story on a podcast called BuzzOutLoud they mentioned something about Verizon soon offering the ability to activate other CDMA phones on their network. So its possible in a year from now, the HTC Touch could be activated on
Verizons network, but you must complete the contract before the provider will "unlock" the phone. And Verizon has yet to confirm they will go through with it.
Not to mention with ANDROID coming out soon,
cell phones will go through a lot of changes.
The GSM razr is completely different internally
from the CDMA razr.
So yes the phone came out, but it was the same phone by name only, internally it was way different.
Also, I heard about a story on a podcast called BuzzOutLoud they mentioned something about Verizon soon offering the ability to activate other CDMA phones on their network. So its possible in a year from now, the HTC Touch could be activated on
Verizons network, but you must complete the contract before the provider will "unlock" the phone. And Verizon has yet to confirm they will go through with it.
Not to mention with ANDROID coming out soon,
cell phones will go through a lot of changes.
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Yeah, I know all that. What you seem to be forgetting is that none of this is exactly re-inventing the wheel. CDMA and GSM chipsets and radios are widely available from many vendors, and the issues in using each technology are well-known.
It just isn't that hard to make a phone in both technologies, the true limiting factor is, "Will it sell?". Considering the interest in the iPhone, I don't think that'll be a problem for a CDMA version.
Far as the HTC Touch goes, you're a little behind the times, a Verizon version already exists, and should be released in a few weeks:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Images-of-Verizons-T ... »
It just isn't that hard to make a phone in both technologies, the true limiting factor is, "Will it sell?". Considering the interest in the iPhone, I don't think that'll be a problem for a CDMA version.
Far as the HTC Touch goes, you're a little behind the times, a Verizon version already exists, and should be released in a few weeks:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Images-of-Verizons-T ... »
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COOL, maybe I will wait for the Touch instead of the 5800.
Windows Mobile 6, underneath a cool touch screen based GUI, very nice.
This is a Windows Mobile based phone, using activesync means business users can tie this little bad boy into their exchnage based email
servers with no problem. Unlike blackberry where they have to pay for a license per blackberry user.
I gotta hand it to HTC they have become quite the force to be reckoned with.
Windows Mobile 6, underneath a cool touch screen based GUI, very nice.
This is a Windows Mobile based phone, using activesync means business users can tie this little bad boy into their exchnage based email
servers with no problem. Unlike blackberry where they have to pay for a license per blackberry user.
I gotta hand it to HTC they have become quite the force to be reckoned with.
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Verizon loves to mess with the inner workings and lock everything down,
such as the V710 OBEX bluetooth lockdown fiasco of years ago.
and the functions they disabled in so many other phones.
My jawbone wont work with my Q because Verizon modified the bluetooth protocol within the phone just enough that I get random results with it.
And yet their supposed to stick to a worldwide established standard, to even legally put the bluetooth logo on the packaging.
Ahh verizon, they are the red headed stepchild kid you beat up all the time but felt bad after doing so.
( no real stepchildren were hurt during the writing of this post)
such as the V710 OBEX bluetooth lockdown fiasco of years ago.
and the functions they disabled in so many other phones.
My jawbone wont work with my Q because Verizon modified the bluetooth protocol within the phone just enough that I get random results with it.
And yet their supposed to stick to a worldwide established standard, to even legally put the bluetooth logo on the packaging.
Ahh verizon, they are the red headed stepchild kid you beat up all the time but felt bad after doing so.
( no real stepchildren were hurt during the writing of this post)
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They've actually eased up on the bluetooth crippling a lot since the bad old V710 days. 😳
I've bluetooth-transferred pics from my LG 8350 to my girlfriend's MacBook with no problemos (other than an excess of steps).
Still, we're not out of the woods yet. They crippled the GPS on a recently-released Blackberry. VZW's 'open' initiative can't come too soon.
I've bluetooth-transferred pics from my LG 8350 to my girlfriend's MacBook with no problemos (other than an excess of steps).
Still, we're not out of the woods yet. They crippled the GPS on a recently-released Blackberry. VZW's 'open' initiative can't come too soon.
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It still baffles me that people say things like this... VZW does not put limitations on smartphones unless there is an issue softwarewise with the functionality of said ability.
If your jawbone doesnt work with your Q that is an issue between the jawbone and the Q, not because of something wrong with the bluetooth profile.. I suggest you make sure you have the most recent update for the Q and if you do, contact Moto and advise them of the problem.
People keep claiming that VZW puts their own UI on smartphones and puts bluetooth limits on them.. it doesnt happen people. VZW requires the manufacturer to put specific apps on the phones (i.e. wireless sync) but other than that, its free game.
If your jawbone doesnt work with your Q that is an issue between the jawbone and the Q, not because of something wrong with the bluetooth profile.. I suggest you make sure you have the most recent update for the Q and if you do, contact Moto and advise them of the problem.
People keep claiming that VZW puts their own UI on smartphones and puts bluetooth limits on them.. it doesnt happen people. VZW requires the manufacturer to put specific apps on the phones (i.e. wireless sync) but other than that, its free game.
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1) Isn't Japan all CDMA? The iPhone is supposed to be out in Japan sometime this year.
2) The AT&T 5 year plan is never been publicly confirmed, that's why some people speculate it's 2 years with a 3 year renewal option. Who knows which side has the leverage in that exclusive continuation. We're not even a year out from the iPhone's release, so don't hold your breath.
3) Verizon did pass on the iPhone, but it's all speculation as to why. It was assumed that it was Apple's very non-traditional terms..... combine that with Verizon's history of... um... tweaking? cell phones to meet their business plans.
i WISH the iPhone was on Verizon today, but it's not. I wish my Treo had a browser anywhere near the iPhone's Safari, but it doesn'...
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2) The AT&T 5 year plan is never been publicly confirmed, that's why some people speculate it's 2 years with a 3 year renewal option. Who knows which side has the leverage in that exclusive continuation. We're not even a year out from the iPhone's release, so don't hold your breath.
3) Verizon did pass on the iPhone, but it's all speculation as to why. It was assumed that it was Apple's very non-traditional terms..... combine that with Verizon's history of... um... tweaking? cell phones to meet their business plans.
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Japan is not CDMA. They use PDC for 2G (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Digita l_Cellular) and use UMTS for 3G like the GSM carriers do.
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If you didn't like the voyager and don't want the convienice of having that physical keyboard then get the touch coming out.
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**** the iPhone!! I'm an at&t user, and am not inpressed by it at all! My old ass 8125 (at&t's version of the XV6700) is better than the iPhone!
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pepsijunky said:
Ha, you are something chocolate chump.
Did I offend you? Do you have an iPhone?
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I think its funny when people make ridiculous when they make statements that this phone will not eventually show up on our network. We passed on it originally, true, but the more cell phone technology becomes universal the more phones will be universal. True it might not be the first generation Iphones, or even the much rumored 3g, but Verizon Wireless will be using LTE, and you can bet that Apple will be making a Iphone eventually for LTE. This is good business...the same people said the RZR would never come to VZW. It did. It will come.
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