Hey VZW!! How about a DUAL UI Phone!!
Since so many including PC mag. and myself cannot tolerate your UI why not offer us...yes thats right the customer you have been crippling for years now, the option to choose in Tools & Settings which interface we want??? Leave the factory unbranded version in the phone and somewhere in the hidden menu put your heinous version of a cell phone user interface in there.
OR.....just make it easy on yourself and sell one phone, that's essentially what you are doing now.
Only my opinion of course.
OR.....just make it easy on yourself and sell one phone, that's essentially what you are doing now.
Only my opinion of course.
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noted and filed. I agree about the UI; it sucks. I'm not sure that Big Red would want to leave the factory UI on there, it would give too much freedom to john and jane customer 😲 there I said it.
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ajstrong said:
noted and filed. I agree about the UI; it sucks. I'm not sure that Big Red would want to leave the factory UI on there...
The factory UI is on there to begin with. Problem is that it can't handle all of the specialized carrier services. GIN, Navigator, Games, EvDO DUN.
Instead of the carrier rewriting the UI software, they should get the OEM company to add those functions.
Motorola needs a special hotline to handle the Maxx Ve because it was a Verizon exclusive. It is getting crazy.
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thanks for the info; I don't know that much about UI's, obviously. 🙂 I don't like the Maxx... or the rest of the Razr line.
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On its FIOS cable broadband network. I wonder if they'll bring that to their wireless network anytime soon? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Ok I'm gonna have to call foul on this one. Remember the E815? It have the factory UI and could handle GIN, VCAST, Games, and EVDO. It was also the last phone to tether with a mobile office kit and just draw from you minutes. So mandating a VZW UI to acces the network is a lie. Sorry I had to say it
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bigredslave said:
Ok I'm gonna have to call foul on this one. Remember the E815? It have the factory UI and could handle GIN, VCAST, Games, and EVDO. It was also the last phone to tether with a mobile office kit and just draw from you minutes. So mandating a VZW UI to acces the network is a lie. Sorry I had to say it
Come to think of it I think you are on solid ground here. The greatest phone hackers of all time who have Verizon absolutely LOVE their E815.
I guess that is why they are all anxious to get the new V9m firmware for Alltel and hack the UI to the Verizon network.
The Maxx Ve was a Verizon exclusive, so they could not.
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Who cares about the MAXX? It is like a deformed RAZR that got forgotten about. 🤣
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... you seemed like a smart enough guy to me in the past but this is getting really stupid. You honestly think that VZW rewrites the operating softwear for motorla phones?
VZW doesnt make the phone, VZW supplies the template to moto whom then has to make it work with their phone. From what you just posted you seem to think that moto makes a phone, ships it to VZW whom then plugs the phone into a computer and installs new softwear on it...
Moto writes the softwear that runs their phones, moto programers just dont bother changing the default UI or including options for the UI. When I asked our moto rep why moto just used the default UI template, he said when he asked the engineering team about it they told him they didnt see a need to chan...
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VZW doesnt make the phone, VZW supplies the template to moto whom then has to make it work with their phone. From what you just posted you seem to think that moto makes a phone, ships it to VZW whom then plugs the phone into a computer and installs new softwear on it...
Moto writes the softwear that runs their phones, moto programers just dont bother changing the default UI or including options for the UI. When I asked our moto rep why moto just used the default UI template, he said when he asked the engineering team about it they told him they didnt see a need to chan...
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What is wrong with the UI? Other than it's ability to give people something to complain about.
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lilgabe1 said:
What is wrong with the UI? Other than it's ability to give people something to complain about.
It's fine for plain old voice. I actually like it. But read the other thread here "PC Magazine blasts Verizon UI - RAZR2"
The VZ UI can't really handle the extended features that the phone was build to do. Like try to format an expansion card, set up home screen shortcuts, copy and paste from the browser, check your text messages from the outer flip, hear your text messages, use video conferencing, etc.
Basically whatever the phone makers come up with won't work unless the VZ UI can handle it.
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I'm sorry but I don't buy that at all. The UI has been made the handle the features it currently does. It could also be adapted to handle these other features. Verizon or the manufacturers could make the UI do anything they wanted, just as easily as an OEM UI doing it.
Oh, by the way.. the EnV will read your text messages to you. Now what?
Oh, by the way.. the EnV will read your text messages to you. Now what?
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vzwinagent said:
I'm sorry but I don't buy that at all. The UI has been made the handle the features it currently does. It could also be adapted to handle these other features. Verizon or the manufacturers could make the UI do anything they wanted, just as easily as an OEM UI doing it.
Oh, by the way.. the EnV will read your text messages to you. Now what?
Good point. So do you think that the Verizon RAZR2 had all of these feature stripped out purposely?
SMS can be read and replied to without opening the flip
Text to speech from SMS
Full HTML browser
Bluetooth printing and file transfer
Multi-shot photography
Video conferencing
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I'm really not sure why the features are missing. It could be Motorola, it could be Verizon, who knows? I do agree that it doesn't make sense.
It's also weird that other phones have allowed you to read the SMS from the outside and have done text to speech yet those features seem to have been removed from this one. I'm sure we'll never know the answers.
It's also weird that other phones have allowed you to read the SMS from the outside and have done text to speech yet those features seem to have been removed from this one. I'm sure we'll never know the answers.
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The only wierd part is that wnrussell thinks VZW controls the manufactures wont let them put anything on the phones...
Why doesnt it make sence that the manufacturer doesnt put everything on every phone? Phones are desiged by people, not all people care about everything. If the designers dont care if the phone can read your text messages to you and dont see that as a big selling point for the phone why are they going to waste the limited resources the phone is working with to make the phone do it? And when they do include it, what other application should they leave off the phone to make room for that one?
Why doesnt it make sence that the manufacturer doesnt put everything on every phone? Phones are desiged by people, not all people care about everything. If the designers dont care if the phone can read your text messages to you and dont see that as a big selling point for the phone why are they going to waste the limited resources the phone is working with to make the phone do it? And when they do include it, what other application should they leave off the phone to make room for that one?
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If you want the manufacturer to make a special UI for the phones to run on the VZW network, talk to the manufacturer not to VZW.
For example, if Motorola has in the past made two seperate UIs and you could contact morotola and using motorola phone tools flash the phone to the other UI.
If you dont like the UI of a phone, talk to the people that put the UI on it, the manufacturer... Motorola doesnt see the need to change the carrier template, that is a problem you should be taking up with motorola, not the carrier.
For example, if Motorola has in the past made two seperate UIs and you could contact morotola and using motorola phone tools flash the phone to the other UI.
If you dont like the UI of a phone, talk to the people that put the UI on it, the manufacturer... Motorola doesnt see the need to change the carrier template, that is a problem you should be taking up with motorola, not the carrier.
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Goodness could we please not continue the daily " i hate the vzw UI, why don't they change it......blah, blah". Im with Wfine on this one stating if you dont like it, go somewhere else. Vzw doesnt use the mandatory UI on EVERY single phone and to say that is strictly false. Lots of the newer phones such as the U740, 8550, 8300, 8600, 8700 and more do have alternative UI's you can use other than the old regular Verizon UI. 👀 And how everyone compares att's bluetooth profiles to vzw's. Do some research and see how many times the AT&T network crashes to what Verizon does. And everyday someone new comes in and complains about the samething and yet the quarter results stay the same. Yes AT&T has closed the gap significantly ecspecially i...
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vzwjeff said:
Goodness could we please not continue the daily " i hate the vzw UI, why don't they change it......blah, blah". Im with Wfine on this one stating if you dont like it, go somewhere else.
Vzw doesnt use the mandatory UI on EVERY single phone and to say that is strictly false. Lots of the newer phones such as the U740, 8550, 8300, 8600, 8700 and more do have alternative UI's you can use other than the old regular Verizon UI.
I have an 8300, and the UI doesn't seem that different from the original 'red bars' VZW UI.
It's pretty much the all the same menus, just nicer colors/shading, and you can change the color of the bars too. In other words, cosmetic changes.
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True, but its as if they daily complain that VZW doesn't try to atleast change alittle for the better. Of course that is never enough to some but none the less it has changed from what it was a year ago. And I'm sure it will adjust more in the future to. What I'm saying is that there is no need for any drastic changes for the UI if the reason to change it is to appease the few. I have people everyday that like that the UI stays familiar because it makes it less difficult to learn switching to a brand new device. Now in comparison to the ones that want it changed? Its not even comparable. The time could be better used for complaining on the phone selection 🙄
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