new reception problems
i have had my new verizon service with 2 vx6100 phones since friday, and things seem to have been ok, but today i dropped 3 calls inside my house, and while out shopping, i didnt drop calls, but it was not able to get good connection, whereas my attws tdma fone had no problems inside the house, few inside that particular store i was in today, and most of my wife's work is a dead zone. is this more likely my phone, or is it just the cdma? (im in chicagoland, so should have good signal normally)
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You can always complain to Verizon, but if you have a return policy to get out of the contract you'll have to consider that option too. Ask your wife's co-workers & your neighbors to comment on their carriers.
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It is not the CDMA system as such, it could very likely be the phone.
There are many factors involved here: Terrain, obstructions , tower positioning, tilt of antennas on the tower, etc. None of which are in your control. I would start with what is in your control, that is the phones. Verizon has a very consistent signal, the phones can often have inconsistent performance. Unfortunately the "signal bars" on the phone often have little to do with actual signal strength. In fact the phone manufacturers have a vested interest in displaying more signal bars than the actual signal. This is most common on Nokia phones. (they can be put in the field test mode easily to read actual signal strength) My suggestion is to talk with people who are Veri...
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There are many factors involved here: Terrain, obstructions , tower positioning, tilt of antennas on the tower, etc. None of which are in your control. I would start with what is in your control, that is the phones. Verizon has a very consistent signal, the phones can often have inconsistent performance. Unfortunately the "signal bars" on the phone often have little to do with actual signal strength. In fact the phone manufacturers have a vested interest in displaying more signal bars than the actual signal. This is most common on Nokia phones. (they can be put in the field test mode easily to read actual signal strength) My suggestion is to talk with people who are Veri...
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"Unfortunately the "signal bars" on the phone often have little to do with actual signal strength. In fact the phone manufacturers have a vested interest in displaying more signal bars than the actual signal."
This is so true, I had a Moto V710 and traded it for an lg7000. The 7000 always shows less and sometimes no bars in areas where the Moto would show full or almost full, however I have always been able to make calls just fine with the 7000 all the places the Moto worked.
The way I had it explained to me is that the number of signal bars on your phone is the amount of power the phone is using to make a call. More signal bars equals less power needed for the call, less signal bars equals more power to make a call, thats why you ma...
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This is so true, I had a Moto V710 and traded it for an lg7000. The 7000 always shows less and sometimes no bars in areas where the Moto would show full or almost full, however I have always been able to make calls just fine with the 7000 all the places the Moto worked.
The way I had it explained to me is that the number of signal bars on your phone is the amount of power the phone is using to make a call. More signal bars equals less power needed for the call, less signal bars equals more power to make a call, thats why you ma...
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does anyone in the chicagoland area know if i should see both 800 and 1900 mhz?
on another note, in the areas of my house that i do not have good signal, my rx power is usually -99 or -100 to 102 ?
(vx6100) wonder if the moto v260 might fare better
on another note, in the areas of my house that i do not have good signal, my rx power is usually -99 or -100 to 102 ?
(vx6100) wonder if the moto v260 might fare better
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In Chicago, you should be on 800 MHz with VZW, not 1900. -99 to -100, that's doesn't really sound that good for digital, but I'm not an RF engineer.
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those -99 and -100 seem to be the worst places in my house.... usually one service bar. full signal outside of the house nets me usually
-65 to -70 or so
-65 to -70 or so
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Keep your eye on the deadline and make certain you are covered regardless of what strategy you choose. I would hate to hear from you next week that you past your dealine and they will not allow a return, or to get out of your contract because what you want is not allowed in the written agreement.
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return that thing is my suggestion. i went thru 2 6100 and have the same experience as you. dropped calls constantly. it's a good phone if you live in an area with excellent signal strength, but if you're not in such an area (like me), forget it. you'll hate the phone. check out the v265. i think you'll love the reception compared to that toy you're playing with. sure it has a better camera and and screen than the v265 but crappy signal pickup compared to a moto.
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klapper2001 said:Or you could try the WonderPhone, aka the Nokia 3595i. For some reason this very cheap phone holds a call like there's no tomorrow. Does anyone know if this particular phone uses the TI chipset? Or if coming phones will use it?
return that thing is my suggestion. i went thru 2 6100 and have the same experience as you. dropped calls constantly. it's a good phone if you live in an area with excellent signal strength, but if you're not in such an area (like me), forget it. you'll hate the phone. check out the v265. i think you'll love the reception compared to that toy you're playing with. sure it has a better camera and and screen than the v265 but crappy signal pickup compared to a moto.
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muchdrama said:...klapper2001 said:Or you could try the WonderPhone, aka the Nokia 3595i. For some reason this very cheap phone holds a call like there's no tomorrow. Does anyone know if this particular phone uses the TI chipset? Or
return that thing is my suggestion. i went thru 2 6100 and have the same experience as you. dropped calls constantly. it's a good phone if you live in an area with excellent signal strength, but if you're not in such an area (like me), forget it. you'll hate the phone. check out the v265. i think you'll love the reception compared to that toy you're playing with. sure it has a better camera and and screen than the v265 but crappy signal pickup compared to a moto.
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Check out the LG 3200 or the Samsung 650. The Motorola CDMA phones are very inconsistent and the Nokia CDMA phones have diminished signal capabilities. If you want a camera phone the Samsung 670 is a great performer even in rural backwoods Oregon.
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Jeff,,
How can you say the nokia phones have diminished signal problems?
Like Muchdrama put in an earlier post, the nokia 3589 really is the "Wonderphone". Fantastic battery, rediculous signal. This is the #1 raved about phone on the howard forums as well.
Nokia is known to be one of the better brands out there for signal reception. The only company that I know of that can rival them is LG. At least for Verizon that is.
Rural backwoods of Oregon? For a dual-band (digital only) samsung 670? I didn't know we had that much of an extensive digital network out there. I thought most of Oregon was analog. I'll have to brush up on my maps. I must be way way out of the loop.
Now as to fix your signal problem Jimmy.
If anythi...
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How can you say the nokia phones have diminished signal problems?
Like Muchdrama put in an earlier post, the nokia 3589 really is the "Wonderphone". Fantastic battery, rediculous signal. This is the #1 raved about phone on the howard forums as well.
Nokia is known to be one of the better brands out there for signal reception. The only company that I know of that can rival them is LG. At least for Verizon that is.
Rural backwoods of Oregon? For a dual-band (digital only) samsung 670? I didn't know we had that much of an extensive digital network out there. I thought most of Oregon was analog. I'll have to brush up on my maps. I must be way way out of the loop.
Now as to fix your signal problem Jimmy.
If anythi...
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Jeff,,
How can you say the nokia phones have diminished signal problems?
Like Muchdrama put in an earlier post, the nokia 3589 really is the "Wonderphone". Fantastic battery, rediculous signal. This is the #1 raved about phone on the howard forums as well.
Nokia is known to be one of the better brands out there for signal reception. The only company that I know of that can rival them is LG. At least for Verizon that is.
Rural backwoods of Oregon? For a dual-band (digital only) samsung 670? I didn't know we had that much of an extensive digital network out there. I thought most of Oregon was analog. I'll have to brush up on my maps. I must be way way out of the loop.
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Perhaps a different 6100 would work better. In all honesty someone once told me "Yes they may be off the same manufacturing line, but no 2 products are exactly the same".
I'd exchange out the 6100 with a fresh one. Try it for a few days. If you get the same issue, try something else.
I'd exchange out the 6100 with a fresh one. Try it for a few days. If you get the same issue, try something else.
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It is true, I had the nokia 3586i on Aliant Telecom here in Canada and then got the samsung a500, both are EXCELLENT for signal strength. (I believe only Sprint had the a500 however...)
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SPCSVZWJeff said:Well, for diminished capabilities, the 3589 has certainly served me well. I can't remember the last time I dropped a call.
Check out the LG 3200 or the Samsung 650. The Motorola CDMA phones are very inconsistent and the Nokia CDMA phones have diminished signal capabilities. If you want a camera phone the Samsung 670 is a great performer even in rural backwoods Oregon.
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gmcjimmyguy said:
i have had my new verizon service with 2 vx6100 phones since friday, and things seem to have been ok, but today i dropped 3 calls inside my house, and while out shopping, i didnt drop calls, but it was not able to get good connection, whereas my attws tdma fone had no problems inside the house, few inside that particular store i was in today, and most of my wife's work is a dead zone. is this more likely my phone, or is it just the cdma? (im in chicagoland, so should have good signal normally)
I doubt its the CDMA... all else being equal, CDMA is actually more tolerant of weak signals than TDMA or GSM.
My guess is that your 6100 is simply not a 'reception champ', as it were. Return it...
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PS- Ironically, ppl are saying that the new Moto v265 IS a 'reception champ'. Perhaps you were right all along about 'goin Moto', gmc.
Though I still luv my Samsung. 😉
Though I still luv my Samsung. 😉
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my wife tells me that we didnt have as good of reception with the nokia 3360 att as i remember, not suprised to not have good signal in house... o well
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I just bought the vx7000 last week and the same type of reception problem happened. In my house I couldn't get any bars. Now they want me to try the 6100. I'm getting it today. will let you know if better. Also does anyone know how good either ATT or Cingular is in comparison to Verizon
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In my neck of the woods (SF/SJ Bay Area, Northern California), AT&T Wireless is quite terrible compared to Verizon.
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RF is not consistent day to day, hour to hour, or even minute to minute. If you live on eht fringe of coverage, the fluctuations in RF vary greatly. It's not CDMA in general, and it may not neccessarilly be a phone issue. It's just that, in ANY wireless network, some people are going to be unfortunate enough to live directly in between two towers. That means the signal is not going to penetrate into your building or house.
Funny. Ten years ago, no one wanted a cell tower eny where near their house, or even in their entire town. Now everyone wants a cellular repeater in the ceiling of every room of their house. That's a good thing for those of us that make their livelihoods in the industry. Just an amazing socail progression, i guess.
Funny. Ten years ago, no one wanted a cell tower eny where near their house, or even in their entire town. Now everyone wants a cellular repeater in the ceiling of every room of their house. That's a good thing for those of us that make their livelihoods in the industry. Just an amazing socail progression, i guess.
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have you updated your *228? you want to do this montly to ensure you get the latest tower updates. also i do know that depending on the buildind structure of where your using the phone, some may work and some may not... i even had two different phones from same manufature and one work in my home and one would not, i would have to go out in the front yard to use it.... i would try another phone you have 15days worry free and see if that helps.. yea you should be good in chicago.. but depending on the building structre you may have probs. also if it is a fairly new building them im sure that is your prob.
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house is less than 10 years old... not brick... but hmmm... does aluminum structures cause signal problems??? just realized house IS covered in aluminum siding! might this be an issue? also... my wife and I both got the same phone at the same time, both seem to have the same ammount of signals.
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I live in Denver and could not get a good signal in my home until one year later when a new tower was built and now it is wonderful. My house is an old stucco and on a street that is somewhat lower than the surrounding area.
You could try mounting something on your roof directed at the tower.
You could try mounting something on your roof directed at the tower.
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