Verizon's 2007 Mistakes??
Whatcha think?
1)Passing on the iPhone?
2)Not Buying Alltel? (although they are probably still for sale)
In reality, is Verizon's passing on the iPhone seems like a poor choice from a business stand point? So what Apple wants control and a peice of the profits from the monthly access.... the hype, free press, etc seems to be paying off even if it is mostly to Apple. Maybe Apple should have gone MVNO on Verizon's network instead. 500,000 customer in 48 would beat Amp'd growth rate.
AT&T bought another 1.7 million customers with the Dobson buyout. This helps AT&T hold on to that #1 Crown for another few years, but if VZW bought Alltel's 10 million.... AT&T would be 2nd that gap would be hard to close, even with the iphone.
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1)Passing on the iPhone?
2)Not Buying Alltel? (although they are probably still for sale)
In reality, is Verizon's passing on the iPhone seems like a poor choice from a business stand point? So what Apple wants control and a peice of the profits from the monthly access.... the hype, free press, etc seems to be paying off even if it is mostly to Apple. Maybe Apple should have gone MVNO on Verizon's network instead. 500,000 customer in 48 would beat Amp'd growth rate.
AT&T bought another 1.7 million customers with the Dobson buyout. This helps AT&T hold on to that #1 Crown for another few years, but if VZW bought Alltel's 10 million.... AT&T would be 2nd that gap would be hard to close, even with the iphone.
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what is funny is the amount blocks and the cripling way the iphone is set up. Do not want to turn this thread into another iphone one, but it has most of the bluetooth profiles locked, very limited personalization of menus, themes, color schemes, and no ringtones, and no mms so you can get them that way.
Just wondering why people haven't flipped about some of this, these are things people have been crying about on verizon forever but they let them slide on the iphone just because it looks so cool...Hipocrits
Just wondering why people haven't flipped about some of this, these are things people have been crying about on verizon forever but they let them slide on the iphone just because it looks so cool...Hipocrits
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Damn that things is more crippled than any verizon phone, I have the black Q so my bluetooth work great!!
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I think that verizon should buy something... alltel would be an ok choice, but i dont know if they could, considering most of their coverage would overlap!
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I say how about getting that 45% from vodaphone..then talk about buying other companies.
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With the 7% stake = $10 Billion that Vodaphone is thinking about selling... that would make the full 45% around $64 Billion Kajillion Bazillion dollars. Alltel would be a cheaper buy.
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damn...didnt know it was that pricey..i guess voda isnt letting loose of their cash cow.
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New_2_T-Mobile said:
ATT bought more customers 🙄
Well, yeah. They have to. Too many leave. 😳
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I don't think passing on buying Alltel was a mistake. As it is, Verizon has great roaming agreements with Alltel. It is probably cheaper the way it is now than to have to start upkeep on all of Alltel's towers as well as their own. There aren't any other carriers that really can purchase Alltel at this point. If anyone came in and made a serious threat to Verizon as far as the roaming agreements are concerned, Verizon would probably purchase Alltel at whatever cost. As it is, I don't think it was a mistake at all.
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Lapdog said:
Think I gotta agree on this one...why buy it when you can rent cheaper...
But if what is true that the private equity firm might split up the company, Verizon will buyout where they want to expand, and add capacity to markets they need additional spectrum. But I don't know how many markets Alltel has that has PCS. I just know they don't have as many markets that have PCS networks as they have in the way of cellular networks. But where Alltel has PCS, Verizon might have the easiest time acquiring that part of the network than trying to acquire cellular networks in overlapping markets.
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LordObento said:
Whatcha think?
1)Passing on the iPhone?
2)Not Buying Alltel? (although they are probably still for sale)
...AT&T bought another 1.7 million customers with the Dobson buyout. This helps AT&T hold on to that #1 Crown for another few years, but if VZW bought Alltel's 10 million.... AT&T would be 2nd that gap would be hard to close, even with the iphone.
1) Passing on the iPhone was definitely a mistake for Verizon. While iPhone 1.0 has a number of weaknesses and omissions (no 3G, no video recording, no MMS), the next one they release should be a strong product (ATT's mediocre network notwithstanding).
VZW didn't seem to understand that its not enough to have a 3G data network....
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Actually, Alltel owns substantial GSM assets due to their purchase of Western Wireless. If the equity group decides to sell that part off the AT&T, it could help their rural coverage a lot.
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Western Wireless wasn't that big (1.4 million customers out of Alltel's 10 million) and they weren't all-GSM if I remember correctly... more like a hodge-podge of CDMA, GSM, and TDMA.
If the GSM part of WW got split off and sold, it really wouldn't be that big a deal.
If the GSM part of WW got split off and sold, it really wouldn't be that big a deal.
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sangyup81 said:
1.4 million? that sounds like an extra 3 quarters of being #1 for at&t
But its not 1.4 million. WW wasn't GSM-only, they were CDMA as well.
So, it'd be more like a few hundred thousand. I guess that'd buy them another quarter, possibly even two. But I think they're more relying on the iPhone and the Dobson acquisition to keep them #1. And they could still go after Suncom... T-Mobile doesn't appear to be geting of its ass and buying it.
Meanwhile, VZW just doesn't seem to want to buy anybody, even though they'd be #1 if they did. I guess they do see it in purely business terms, whereas ATT cares about the bragging rights.
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