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Disappointing...

acnova1

Aug 23, 2006, 10:49 AM
I had high hopes for this, too bad it won't be the "new paradigm" for keyboard layouts that Digit Wireless touts on their website.

Does anyone have this phone or the LG 6190 that can either confirm or dispute this?
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malejko

Aug 23, 2006, 2:53 PM
I am in Canada, and have several friends with LG 6190's - they are on the Telus network and they absolutely LOVE their phones. I don't understand why the dork in this video couldn't figure it out, but then again, I've always hated T9 - so there's my bias. I've gotten fast enough on my Nokia 3120 using the non-T9 input method that re-learning T9 hasn't worked on several occasions.

Anyway, I've tried the LG 6190 several times and it's easy. Not quite as intuitive as a qwerty layout that's been ingrained in my head for over 20 years, but these guys are seriously giving FasTap a bum review. Their experiments are far from scientific, and overall this review just annoyed me to no end.

My girlfriend who has had her 6190 for a year and a half...
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pauldg

Aug 23, 2006, 5:20 PM
malejko said:

these guys are seriously giving FasTap a bum review. Their experiments are far from scientific, and overall this review just annoyed me to no end.



actually, the test was about as scientific as you can get, which is why they found someone who has used neither the fasttap, nor t9 - to avoid bias (something you admitedly cannot let go)

if you have a problem with the way the review went, try to maintain some amount of tact, and refrain from bashing the review with your biased opinion and immature commentary.
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malejko

Aug 24, 2006, 12:24 AM
Flaws in the experiment:
1) It was his own phone that he was doing the T9 input on. Both phones should have been unfamiliar to the user.
2) You trained him on T9, something not often available since most people don't read their manuals.
3) Your input string was pretty easy to do. More input strings would make for a more general test.

My problems with T9:
1) Originally, you couldn't add words to your dictionary (you can now on newer phones).
2) You need to 'learn' how to type the words in the dictionary, whereas with FasTap the learning curve is simply figuring out where the buttons are.

I was going to try and stick to an unbiased opinion with some facts and maturity, however the video managed to hit all kinds of "omg I can't belie...
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miloofscorpio

Aug 27, 2006, 1:52 PM
Ok, I agree with the fact that learning how to type t9 on another phone different to what you are used to its hard, even if you mastered t9 on your own phone.

I still haven't figure out how to use t9 on verizons samsung a930 its driving crazy I'm glad I only use that phone at work, its not as intuitive as nokia or motorola and hopefully the sony ericsson w810i isn't as hard(by the way any news on the realise of that thing on any american carrier?).
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eric Lin

Aug 24, 2006, 3:37 PM
malejko, i am no longer a scientist,

but i don't believe that i corrupted the design of this experiment by explaining t9 to tim. i also explained things like how punctuation work on fastap. additionally i gave time practice time with each method and allowed him about twice as much practice time with fastap than with t9 because of the new letter layout.

if you were *really* worried about my expiremental design, then i would admit that it is invalid because their is only 1 subject in each group. that is not valid statistically, but it is still better than just the opinion of 1 guy who uses t9 every day.

i would agree there are people who will find learning fastap easy. learning how to use the fastap keyboard is (other than punctuatio...
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acnova1

Aug 24, 2006, 4:07 PM
Hi Eric, does the FasTap system build a dictionary that would store and suggest words that may speed up the input process? Also, are you planning on doing something similar when the Samsung T719 comes out? I would like to see how a user that has never used SureType will do comparitively. (Or users!)
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GetMeOuttaHere

Aug 24, 2006, 5:58 PM
I also noticed that he was using one hand to hold the phone and the other hand to text...I have found that for some reason, if I centre the phone in my hand, I can type with the same hand...and faster/ more efficiently than his demonstration portrayed.
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eric Lin

Aug 25, 2006, 1:13 AM
i tried every position, but had to record this either holding the phone one handed and steadying it with the other or holding it 2 handed and typing thumbboard style. otherwise the phone would be flying all over the screen and you'd get sea sick (i tried one handed without steadying the phone and it was, well, dizzying.) i then chose my FASTEST time from between the two styles. i was not doing anything to sandbag the results, honestly. like any good experiment, i didn't know what would happen until after i measured the results. i did not make any assumptions ahead of time.
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hell0

Aug 26, 2006, 10:42 PM
Wait until you get this phone before you call eric's review bad. I actually used this phone for three weeks and was able to text at a decent speed using the fastap keypad but i can type at least twice as fast using t9. I never seemed to be able to memorize all of the key locations and found myself looking at the phone while i was typing. It is harder than it looks. If/when you do get it turn the honking sound off! ITS VERY ANNOYING!
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