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Apple Prices iPhone 4 at $199/$299, Drops 3GS Price to $99

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Way to go AT&T!

bluecoyote

Jun 7, 2010, 1:55 PM
Smart move guys!
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BloodThirsty

Jun 7, 2010, 1:58 PM
Very Happy
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bluecoyote

Jun 7, 2010, 2:13 PM
Hey, they're saving me 3 months Laughing
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Jayshmay

Jun 7, 2010, 2:17 PM
Ah. . .really all that impresses me about the new Iphone is the new display, whopping 960 pixels !!wow!! But that's it.
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bluecoyote

Jun 7, 2010, 4:01 PM
Let's put it this way- the only other phone that comes close in terms of specs gets about 1/3rd of the battery life and is almost 3 times as thick.
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Jayshmay

Jun 7, 2010, 4:03 PM
Uh huh, and whicfh one, according to you is that?
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Menno

Jun 7, 2010, 8:16 PM
He's most likely talking about the EVO
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Jayshmay

Jun 7, 2010, 8:23 PM
So...you being a Verizon person, might you know anything about this Vcast Video app that is supposedly available for Android, but isn't in the Verizon section of the market???
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Menno

Jun 8, 2010, 11:33 AM
It's up there now Smile as of like 2am when I last checked.

Remember, the app is free to download, but the feature costs $10 a month and unlike other android apps, this will add to your verizon bill, not pull from another card. so if you download it and love it, great Smile if you download it and hate it, make sure to contact a verizon rep to have it removed (or if you manage account online you should be able to do it there too)

On another note, what did you think about what you read about rooting?
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tbacba

Jun 8, 2010, 11:50 AM
But wasn't it just a little while ago you were scoffing at HTC phones as nothing but a collection of good specs? And now you quote the iPhone's specs? You can't have it both ways.
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acculabs

Jun 7, 2010, 2:14 PM
This is almost a non-event.

I am glad no Verizon iPhone. Who wants those retards on America's best network anyway.
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Versed

Jun 7, 2010, 2:20 PM
acculabs said:
This is almost a non-event.

I am glad no Verizon iPhone. Who wants those retards on America's best network anyway.


About 50 million VZW subscribers.
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acculabs

Jun 7, 2010, 2:30 PM
Minus at least one, ME.
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Azeron

Jun 8, 2010, 3:13 AM
What does Verizon have now 90 million plus subscribers? I think you were already factored into the other forty million... The real question I have is why bother to post at all if you care so little?
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Menno

Jun 7, 2010, 3:13 PM
I highly doubt over 50% of their subscribers would get this phone.

Remember, this is the same customer group that STILL complains about required data on smartphones.. not to mention how pissed off they would be when Verizon doesn't offer BOGO or NE2 on the device (Remember, apple sets the prices, not verizon)

would the phone sell? yes. Would everyone who said they would buy it actually buy it? not even close. (You wouldn't believe how many customers I had who said they were going to ATT for the iphone because I mentioned that blackberry's/droid's required data)
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ecycled

Jun 7, 2010, 3:17 PM
I would definately believe how many would switch, sheeple (know what I'm saying).

Did you see the slide where Jobs showed an email "Some girl saw my iphone and asked me about it. It got her interested in my. Thanks Apple."

Engadget laughed and said, "now thats a magical device."
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Jayshmay

Jun 7, 2010, 4:36 PM
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iDont Care

Jun 7, 2010, 4:23 PM
Nothing groundbreaking here. Just the same lame phone on the same lame carrier. Plus...

No 4G data
No Flash
No Micro SD slot
No HDMI port
No 64GB or 128GB models

and this supposed "Retina Display?"??? I was looking at Jobs like, bitch please! Rolling Eyes lmao. I doubt it's that much better than what OLED has to offer. The only trick that Apple is pulling is in the resolution. Offer OLED at the same resoution and maybe this so called "Retina Display" would be marginally better at best than an OLED display.

Having said all of that. In a nutshell to sum it up... FAIL!

But I'm sure it will sell. Even with AT&T's wonderful new data plans. 2gb and 200mb! How generous!!!

Well you know what they say, there's one born every minute!
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Azeron

Jun 8, 2010, 3:48 AM
"Having said all of that. In a nutshell to sum it up... FAIL!"

"But I'm sure it will sell. Even with AT&T's wonderful new data plans. 2gb and 200mb! How generous!!!"


I'm not sure that I understand this post. Do you have multiple personalities? It would help if I understood which "voice" is speaking at any given time. Either it is a success or a failure, kid... Which is it? If this device sells five million new activations for AT&T in the third quarter are you going to call it a failure and name-call anyone who bought the thing a sheep? I'll say one thing: Being a shepherd must pay pretty damned well in these parts.
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Versed

Jun 8, 2010, 9:14 AM
Wimax is all well and good, then again, Sprint needs to deploy it outside of secondary cities and towns like Bugtusel.

But I totally agree with you 100% on the plans, and it was a well thought out plan to stick it where it hurts to its new customers, or those who where retarded enough to downgrade to them. Sure right now, they're using less data, but not in the very near future.
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tbacba

Jun 7, 2010, 3:22 PM
Apple/AT&T aren't running the show anymore. Laughing
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bluecoyote

Jun 7, 2010, 3:47 PM
Making Android look like yesterday's news today! Laughing

Seriously, the quality of applications in the demos they showed blow away everything any Android phone has seen.
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tbacba

Jun 7, 2010, 4:06 PM
but today is Apple's day, so let them enjoy it. Perhaps they'll even have another one in a year or so. Meantime Android will have several in the next couple months. Laughing
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JeffdaBeat

Jun 7, 2010, 8:16 PM
...sweet...sounds a lot like Windows Mobile a few years ago.

Thing is, you're a tech geek. I'm a tech geek. We're all tech geeks...but Apple and Google aren't really marketing to us, they want the general public. So Android is awesome. Great. In the end, the general public looks at Android as an iPhone competitor. When they look at Android, the iPhone is still on their mind. This is why AT&T, despite the bad press and claims that the network isn't as strong, still does more gross adds than their competitors.

So sweet...the market will be saturated by Android phones. You have a choice...but I don't think Android users get the experience that iPhone users get. You have one iPhone and one universal software update. You don't have to wor...
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Menno

Jun 7, 2010, 10:34 PM
google isn't copying it, as shown by your own talk of worrying about updates.

Believe it or not, the concept of touchscreen interfaces existed LONG before the iphone (or android)

Consumers look at android as an iphone competitor because iphone is the brand name. Even if a customer would be HORRIBLY served by an iphone (IE, they don't want or need data) they know what it is.

Iphone and Blackberry are the ONLY two platforms that have this kind of brand recognition, and bberry is slowly losing it. Droid is gaining it, but it's still a year off, at least.

This doesn't mean that consumers will continue to compare every competitor to the iphone any more than they compare every new brand of cotton swabs to Qtips. Honestly, the ...
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JeffdaBeat

Jun 8, 2010, 7:37 AM
Google said themselves that updates for Android will come once a year...just like Apple has been doing for the past three years. But again, as phones snag things that Apple does, they will always be thought of as an iPhone wannabe.

Consumers do care about an iPhone...if that were the case, name brand clothes would never be in fashion. People want an iPhone because they want to say, "I have an iPhone...that makes me better than you." People used to say that about Blackberry because it was the professional phone and a step up from just a basic phone. No one says, "I want a Droid" because that's saying they can't get an iPhone so they are settling for the second best. Not that any of that is true, but that's the perception.
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Menno

Jun 8, 2010, 11:25 AM
Actually, quite a few people say "I want a droid" And it's not just people "stuck" on a non-att carrier either. People want an iphone because of brand recognition, as you admit. Nothing more (for most customers)

And they are slowing down updates because the OS is at a position where it's very stable and has basically everything it needs to to satisfy most customers. They still provide the OS (for free) to as many companies that want it, they still allow companies to create their own custom overlays over it, they still do hundreds of things differently than apple.

you're confusing "apple does things in this industry recognized pattern" with "if apple does it, then everyone else who does it is copying them"

Blackberry updates thei...
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tbacba

Jun 8, 2010, 11:37 AM
Yes, the Android OS updates will slow, but the pace of new phones with new hardware will not, at least not for awhile. Because of the multitude of manufacturers using Android, we're seeing an explosion of new devices with increasing capability. If Apple sticks to their once/year hardware updates, the iPhone will not be top dog for long, assuming this update puts it back in that position.
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Versed

Jun 8, 2010, 9:23 AM
Menno,
Like or hate Apple and the iPhone, every time you compare it to the iPhone, Apple wins, because it creates a standard. Let them all stand on their own merit.

As much as the Moto Droid done tons of good for Android and VZW, it did feed customers to the iPhone. People went to look at the Droid, then to check out the iPhone, once you walk out there is a good chance of a lost customer. I doubt right now, and that may change soon enough, nobody or very few wanting an iPhone with money is their pocket is going to check out a Droid or other Android phone. And that needs to change.
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Menno

Jun 8, 2010, 11:31 AM
I'm NOT comparing the android the the iphone.

And they can't stand on their own merit because
1) The average customer things iphone means smartphone. Seriously.. A good percentage of them don't know that the name is ONLY used by apple. (Ask a sprint, verizon, etc rep how many times they were asked for "verizon's iphone, and the customer didn't mean an apple iphone)
2) Every review blog, newspaper, etc knows that if they mention IPHONE in their review, they'll get more viewers, thus more revenue.

The only thing the iphone has going for it right now is name recognition. It was actually insanely easy to talk customers out of wanting "and iphone" and finding another phone that met their needs (be that the eris, the droid, or even a b...
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Menno

Jun 7, 2010, 6:23 PM
I think they were talking about that if Android wasn't selling the way it was, the iphone 4 wouldn't be as innovative as it was today.

(just like Winmo, android, et al wouldn't be what they are now without what the iphone introduced)

Competition breeds innovation. after three years of the same thing, it's really refreshing to see cupertino actually make something drool worthy again.
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