Home  ›  News  ›

Sprint's Hesse: Pre Shortages Likely

Article Comments  

all discussions

show all 66 replies

Oh jeez, you're going to sell all 10 of them?

bluecoyote

May 19, 2009, 6:38 PM
I mean seriously. First off, the only people who are going to run out and buy a Pre are people who currently are held hostage on Sprint's network, which isn't a lot. Nobody's going to drop AT&T/Verizon/TMo for a network with worse coverage and places dead last in reliability.

So that means all of those loyal Sprint customers who haven't ditched Sprint for their savior device now get to deal with shortages for the ONE promising phone on their network.

Second off, unless he missed the memo, Apple's kinda likely announcing a new iPhone in about 3 days from the Pre's release date, so we're talking about a phone that's already one generation obsolete. So you're telling me Sprint's supply chain management is so poor they can't keep a remotel...
(continues)
...
ronan_gt3

May 19, 2009, 6:48 PM
we have a sprint hater here!!! haha...
...
sp_5015

May 19, 2009, 7:02 PM
someone is definitely drinking hateraid. why such anger toward sprint? were you neglected as a youngster?
...
sckoisks17

May 19, 2009, 7:11 PM
He's Dan Hesse's 10-year-old son, and his allowance was just cut by $500/week. 🤣

Seriously, though, VZW/ATT/T-Mo customers, have fun continuing to pay upwards of $130/mo for what Sprint customers are only paying $100/mo.
...
ronan_gt3

May 19, 2009, 7:14 PM
exactly sckoisks17!!! let them pay that much for the same features.. hehe..

aside from a low monthly charge with everything unlimited, sprint also has the widest and the fastest network for data! beat that!
...
Sgt_Joker

May 19, 2009, 7:26 PM
🙄 i pay less I'm with sprint..blah blah yet millions of customer sprint is losing on a quarterly basis are more than happy to go to another carrier and pay MORE, go figure! 🙄 hmmmmm sry did i stump you? lol
...
ronan_gt3

May 19, 2009, 7:30 PM
it's because they're not thinking!
they went to att just to have the iphone without knowing that they'll be paying a lot more! now they're stuck to a contract.. poor people.. hehe..

many of them are now saying to themselves, "wish i never left sprint.."
...
Sgt_Joker

May 19, 2009, 7:38 PM
sure and one day they will all come back 🤣 and i just saw an elephant fly too
...
MarkCohen

May 19, 2009, 9:23 PM
And a black guy is gonna be president! HAHAHA!!!! 😳 Oh wait....

Sorry, couldn't help it.
...
Sgt_Joker

May 19, 2009, 9:52 PM
He is not really black
...
bluecoyote

May 19, 2009, 9:57 PM
Yeah, he's kinda like, half black
...
ronan_gt3

May 19, 2009, 9:59 PM
he is.. you just can't accept defeat do you?!
...
Sgt_Joker

May 19, 2009, 11:07 PM
he is half white and acts white for the most part...let me know when America really nominates a true Black Man.
...
Azeron

May 20, 2009, 7:11 AM
Wait... What the hell is "acting white"? Obama is biracial, that is true, but so what? Your blind rage against Sprint is a shame.
...
Naytess

May 20, 2009, 9:20 AM
But, not as shameful as his prejudice! 😉

Isn't this a "cell phone" forum? 😎
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 10:17 AM
yeah you can play stupid just because i tell it like it really is doesn't make me prejudice sry doesn't work that way..just because you're afraid to use certain words doesn't make it wrong. do you think America would have voted for Jesse Jackson as president? lol
...
Sprint_Pony

May 21, 2009, 12:24 PM
you are an idiot. Using the term "acts white" makes you racist.
...
crammy1

May 20, 2009, 7:36 AM
hahaha ...this is funny..in this time and age do you really think that being "pure" is important in america??..why the hell do you call your country a "melting pot" of cultures then? and im quite sure you yourself aint a true american...
...
Kayslay34

May 20, 2009, 1:29 PM
Unless he is purbred Native American, then he isn't a true american.
...
cruiserandmax

May 22, 2009, 2:17 AM
I just looked up "purbed" at m-w, I don't think it's a "wurd"
...
Kayslay34

May 20, 2009, 1:26 PM
Sgt_Joker said:
he is half white and acts white for the most part...let me know when America really nominates a true Black Man.


What is acting white??? Just because he is educated that means he is white, or are you just a ignorant racist fool???
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 4:55 PM
Kayslay34 said:


Just because he is educated that means he is white, or are you just a ignorant racist fool???


who said that? weak attempt at trying to twiste it, but there are lots of articles all over the Internet saying that a true black man has yet to be voted into office...he's half white and was able to get support form whitey and the blacks love him because well he's black...nothing racist about it. ppl are way to senstiive about color, i don't like him I rathered McCain been President because he's Republican and my points of views line up better with him. Obama is already running this country into the ground..but we're talking about Sprint and the PRE!
...
Kayslay34

May 20, 2009, 5:43 PM
Again you put your foot in your mouth and i quote "he is half white and acts white for the most part" Sgt_Joker so what does that have to do with sprint and the PRE....
...
Jayshmay

May 20, 2009, 8:59 AM
All I have to say is good comeback.
...
bluecoyote

May 19, 2009, 9:44 PM
I am a former Sprint customer- a loyal one. I started with Sprint because they had excellent phones and excellent services at a reasonable price. Five years ago, Sprint was the only provider who understood data services- their implementation of picture mail was brilliant.

I left Sprint because they had a horrible smartphone lineup that wasn't anywhere close to usable when my needs changed. Sprint kept hiking their rates, and their phones got further and further behind the competition. Two upgrade cycles later I was done.

And for the record, I pay $65.00/month (corporate discount) with AT&T for my iPhone plan. Minutes aren't unlimited but not once have I gone over, so wtf do I care? I was paying the same with Sprint, only with AT&T I ...
(continues)
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 10:23 AM
I agree everyone should want Sprint to succeed, it's just madding to watch them fumble time and time again. I hope the PRE is a success for them, they just need to stop forcing ppl on high expensive plans that ppl today can't afford..they must go about the 50 dollar a month crowd.
...
Kayslay34

May 20, 2009, 1:32 PM
What are you talking about i have a everything 450 for 69.99 plus my 24% discount so i only pay around 55 dollars before taxes... Your not forced to be on the simply everything plan...
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 2:53 PM
if you want the PRE you will, no sero, no nothing else
...
Kayslay34

May 20, 2009, 5:37 PM
again you show how stupid you are, it can be on any of the everything plans, Next time read up on the info before you talk.

How can you build a customer's plan so they can enjoy everything the Pre can do without racking up overage charges? - Easily!

Choose from these plans that include data and messaging:

Everything Data 450: $69.99 overage $0.45
Everything Data 900: $89.99 overage $0.40
Simply Everything Plan: $99.99 line 1, $89.99 lines 2+
Everything Data Share 1500: $129.99 2 lines, lines 3-5 $19.99, overage $0.40
Everything Data Share 3000: $169.99 2 lines, lines 3-5 $19.99 overage $0.25
Business Essentials Msg & Data Plans:
$69.99 Bus Essentials Msg & Data 400
$89.99 Bus Essentials Msg & Data 1000
$109.99 Bu...
(continues)
...
sprintisbetter

May 20, 2009, 9:45 AM
Sgt_Joker said:
🙄 i pay less I'm with sprint..blah blah yet millions of customer sprint is losing on a quarterly basis are more than happy to go to another carrier and pay MORE, go figure! 🙄 hmmmmm sry did i stump you? lol



Not exactly true dude. Do your research. See what Jim Cramer on Mad Money had to say about sprint..The stock is rising..instead of following a negative band wagon..try finding some things out for your self. Sprint is the S&P 500's best performer.


http://www.thestreet.com/story/10484036/1/cramers-ma ... »
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 10:44 AM
lol C'mon guy of course when your stock is at 2 dollars it can't go anywhere but up...there is no disputing the true facts, but nice reach.
...
bluecoyote

May 20, 2009, 2:24 PM
Haha, they can always just go bankrupt.

Sprint's problem is that in the short term, they have a decent but struggling network and an unconvincing lineup of phones.

Long term, Sprint betted AGAIN on the wrong technology (WiMax) , and is late on deploying it. Remember their EVDO/EVDV debacle? Here we go again.

They should've had a nationwide rollout of their WiMax network a year ago.
...
Sprint_Pony

May 21, 2009, 12:29 PM
you absolutely right... they should of rolled out an untest technology nationwide... brillant plan.
...
samsom718

May 19, 2009, 9:54 PM
Sprint old phone had 3 option for roaming 1) home 2)automatic 3) roaming only. The newer phone don't have the third option any more. If your in area where Sprint phones are not going to get strong signal you wont get good reception and you cant force the phone to roam to another network even though roaming is included in Sprint plan. That's why I left Sprint and went to Verizon. You pay more but in my opinion you get better service.
...
en102

May 19, 2009, 7:50 PM
While I may not be a 'fanboy', and Sprint isn't adding customers, they have been rated as the most reliable 3G network, and they have roaming with VZW. I'm not one for either iPhone (good UI, overly crippled) or Pre (CDMA locked - doesn't have the apps I'm looking for).
...
Sgt_Joker

May 19, 2009, 7:53 PM
en102 said:
and they have roaming with VZW.



for now come 2012 they don't have to honor it anymore, and with sprint tiny native footprint and the rest of the world going LTE, it's even looking worse for them.
...
ronan_gt3

May 19, 2009, 9:43 PM
even without verizon sprint still has very good coverage.. that's a fact!
and the widest, fastest most reliable data network of all the carriers right now!
that's also a fact!!
you can research it online if you want!
...
Sgt_Joker

May 19, 2009, 9:51 PM
noone said that they didn't have a decent data network 🙄 that doesn't mean a hill of beans until they can deliver...
...
ronan_gt3

May 19, 2009, 9:57 PM
for now come 2012 they don't have to honor it anymore, and with sprint tiny native footprint and the rest of the world going LTE, it's even looking worse for them.


well, one thing is that sprint doesn't have a "tiny" native footprint.. maybe you don't know what your talking about.. please do your research before you post an uneducated comment. alryt? and all of the other carriers are just starting their 4g or their lte network, while sprint already started their 4g network late last year or early this year! they will be expanding to more city's this year and of course much more next year..
...
Robbieb

May 19, 2009, 10:10 PM
what exactly does widest mean? because verion has the largest so im confused as to what widest means? its all bs really att has the "most reliable" verizon "the largest" sprint "the fastest" t-mobile we have 3g somewhere...i think right?" so it really doesnt matter in that respect what more people would be happy with is having 3g everywhere and im not sure what the point of starting a 4g network when ur 3g doesnt cover nearly the area as ur competition. verizon is leaving the cdma game so sprint wont have anyone to roam with verizon is taking there ball and going home. and with att and verizon both going to lte there will be service almost everywhere sprint did this to themselves sprin held onto customers by having great customer service. th...
(continues)
...
bluecoyote

May 19, 2009, 10:16 PM
FAIL.
...
sprintisbetter

May 20, 2009, 9:52 AM
sprints is ahead of the game right now with the 4g netork. verizon and att wont even start building the lte until at least 2yrs from now..and thats not even set in stone. sprint clearwire network is here now. imagine a whole city as a wifi hotspot but much faster? how about you can watch full movies on a sail boat in boston in the middle of the freakin ocean! its going to be more than a phone service, with streaming telivision, web tablets with voip, internet cards and phone service and whatever else they come up with. true sprint has a bad rep but in reality sprint is ahead of the game in many aspects.
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 10:41 AM
no...verizon is rolling out their LTE next year with test cities this year..sry Charlie. google and learn 😉
...
cltblogger08

May 20, 2009, 7:47 PM
WEll, if you haven't been doing your homework, sprint actually has more money in the bank in " CASH" than any other of there competition and with them having the best plans out there, Simply Everything, it's giving them more money to set aside and paying down there debt. Now we gotta realize that Verizon does have a good network, but LTE is roll out and it's gonna take a while even before they can try to perfect the network...so needless to say, sprint speed has been rated #1 in the "NOW" network.......
...
Sgt_Joker

May 19, 2009, 11:12 PM
ronan_gt3 said:



while sprint already started their 4g network late last year or early this year! they will be expanding to more city's this year and of course much more next year..



that does not really matter now does it, because noone is signing up with sprint. they're losing millions of customers, closing stores, can't add subs, and still to this day can't fix their poor customer service..but the time they release a wimax phone, verizon will have one too...and ppl will be actually using it. There are always a few kool aid kids who talk up sprint, but you're in the minority...the Majority are paying more to be on better carriers.
...
sprintisbetter

May 20, 2009, 9:54 AM
Sgt_Joker said:


that does not really matter now does it, because noone is signing up with sprint. they're losing millions of customers, closing stores, can't add subs, and still to this day can't fix their poor customer service..but the time they release a wimax phone, verizon will have one too...and ppl will be actually using it. There are always a few kool aid kids who talk up sprint, but you're in the minority...the Majority are paying more to be on better carriers.



verizon doesnt have a wimax network..if they do decide to get one they will have to pay sprint because sprint basically owns the clearwire wimax network.
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 10:13 AM
i know i meant an LTE phone
...
sprintisbetter

May 20, 2009, 9:48 AM
Sgt_Joker said:
noone said that they didn't have a decent data network 🙄 that doesn't mean a hill of beans until they can deliver...


deliver what? from what i can see sprint is delievering very well. Have you checked out the clearwire network? or their evdo rev-a connection cards? or their evdo rev-a phones? their 3g/4g dual connection cards with a storage device on them? sprint has the best data products out there.
...
Sgt_Joker

May 20, 2009, 10:19 AM
yes and yes but clearwire is losing money, look it up! and sprint can't stop bleeding customers...i could make the best burgers in town but if my name is mud and noone comes into my store than who cares.
...
Kayslay34

May 20, 2009, 1:34 PM
en102 said:
While I may not be a 'fanboy', and Sprint isn't adding customers, they have been rated as the most reliable 3G network, and they have roaming with VZW. I'm not one for either iPhone (good UI, overly crippled) or Pre (CDMA locked - doesn't have the apps I'm looking for).


What are you talking about, you dont even know what apps they have....
...
Burger Time

May 19, 2009, 10:08 PM
bluecoyote said:


So that means all of those loyal Sprint customers who haven't ditched Sprint for their savior device now get to deal with shortages for the ONE promising phone on their network.



Sprint carries Blackberry phones, all of which are awesome devices. Plus Sprint has some neat messaging devices. Honestly, I like Sprint's line up better than Verizon's.
...
bluecoyote

May 19, 2009, 10:14 PM
Sprint's been late-to-the-party with Blackberries. Yes they carry them, but the best ones are on other networks (The Bold on AT&T).
...
cannibalslug

May 20, 2009, 1:15 AM
bold = curve on sprint
bold = 3g blackberry
curve & pearl = whatever blackberry is on sprint besides 8350i on nextel

willing to hear what you say makes the bold better and a much more capable phone than anything on sprint, because users do not say the same. throw your facts act me, cause i don't disagree with you, i'd just like to know
...
bluecoyote

May 20, 2009, 2:21 PM
Screen, UI, Browser, Media Player, Build Quality, Keyboard.

It's a bit more than just a 3G Blackberry. If the iPhone didn't exist it'd probably be my phone of choice (not sure though, the G1 is tempting).
...
Sprint_Pony

May 21, 2009, 12:47 PM
I'm confused on why the at&t blackberry is better then the sprint blackberry... aren't all the things you listed the same between the two?
...
bluecoyote

May 21, 2009, 4:15 PM
The Blackberry Bold (AT&T) vs. the Curve (Sprint)
...
Burger Time

May 20, 2009, 8:04 AM
bluecoyote said:
Sprint's been late-to-the-party with Blackberries. Yes they carry them, but the best ones are on other networks (The Bold on AT&T).


I have AT&T and I love the Bold, it is a wicked phone, but too expensive for me. Ironically, I have the Curve 8310, which I got at Walmart for 20 bucks with a new agreement (I know you all will hate me for it, but dammit I need a cheap Blackberry!!)

Sprint carries the same Blackberries as the others, they just don't carry the Bold or Storm which are exclusively at AT&T and Verizon, respectively.

Plus, Nextel just got that new iDEN Curve, which looks sleek!
...
scorpio

May 20, 2009, 11:21 AM
At first I thought you were serious, then I reread you post and notice that you were actually joking... 🤣 🤣

Thanks for the laugh! 🤣 🤣
...
Slammer

May 21, 2009, 6:40 AM
bluecoyote said:
I mean seriously. First off, the only people who are going to run out and buy a Pre are people who currently are held hostage on Sprint's network, which isn't a lot. Nobody's going to drop AT&T/Verizon/TMo for a network with worse coverage and places dead last in reliability.

So that means all of those loyal Sprint customers who haven't ditched Sprint for their savior device now get to deal with shortages for the ONE promising phone on their network.

Second off, unless he missed the memo, Apple's kinda likely announcing a new iPhone in about 3 days from the Pre's release date, so we're talking about a phone that's already one generation obsolete. So you're telling me Sprint's supply chain management
...
(continues)
...
sofa_king_good21

May 21, 2009, 9:48 AM
Wow sounds like someone got checked BIG TIME 😲 lol thanks for the insite slammer.
...
bluecoyote

May 21, 2009, 4:15 PM
First off, I have been a Sprint customer for about 5 years up until recently. I wasn't born hating them, and they used to be my carrier of choice. But whatever improvements have been made under Dan Hesse's helm have not been consistent with the performance of the rest of the wireless industry. I'll get to that in the moment, but even if Sprint's paying you to whitewash their image, basic user experience has you on the wrong side. I wish you luck, and best wishes touting Sprint's paucity of advantages to what I'd consider to be a better service provider.

I'm very excited for the Palm Pre, and I think it's the first phone we've seen that approaches the iPhone's realm in terms of a mobile platform. Unlike the iPhone, which was groundbreaking...
(continues)
...
Slammer

May 21, 2009, 11:15 PM
bluecoyote said:
First off, I have been a Sprint customer for about 5 years up until recently. I wasn't born hating them, and they used to be my carrier of choice. But whatever improvements have been made under Dan Hesse's helm have not been consistent with the performance of the rest of the wireless industry. I'll get to that in the moment, but even if Sprint's paying you to whitewash their image, basic user experience has you on the wrong side. I wish you luck, and best wishes touting Sprint's paucity of advantages to what I'd consider to be a better service provider.

I'm very excited for the Palm Pre, and I think it's the first phone we've seen that approaches the iPhone's realm in terms of a mobile platform. Unlike
...
(continues)
...
bluecoyote

May 22, 2009, 2:04 AM
Sprint's WiMax deployment has been nothing short of a joke. It's bleeding money, hasn't caught on with consumers, and won't see full-scale deployment until LTE networks have been established. They're two years late with their deployment, and they're going to continue losing relevance each day for everyone outside of uh... Baltimore. So in the past 5 years, they've managed to dismantle the Flash-OFDM network Nextel ran in North Carolina and give us a WiMax network in Baltimore. Way to go.

The very problem with Sprint's-and your- philosophy is that they can't distinguish between innovation and novelty. If you can't distinguish from innovators and novelty devices (hence the Samsung Instinct), you're going to fail- and that's exactly what t...
(continues)
...
Caucasian

May 22, 2009, 8:43 AM
Maybe you should hope all that Sprint does, even with the Pre and all the other stuff you bash, they seriously hit a home run. Because then, AT&T will have to step up and perform as well. You can see they're looking at changing pricing plans, most likely because they expect stiff competition from the Pre. Competition is something that I think you'd have a hard time complaining about, hard as that is to believe.
...
Slammer

May 22, 2009, 9:47 AM
While I understand your bitterness with Sprint is enough to insult a multi-million dollar company's choice and my choice for personal carrier, it is difficult to validate your thoughts as you consistantly talk about what Sprint did or did not do several years ago. It's done, gone and they are trying to recover. There is nothing you or myself can do to change this part of history. But let's cut to the chase for a moment if we can. Keeping everything you had mentioned in mind, what "IF" Sprint had been the multi-year exclusive for the Iphone? How would this have changed opinions?. Would this now prove that Sprint is a worthy carrier of recognition? Would you have migrated back? Several colleagues I know, swore they would never return to ATT. ...
(continues)
...
bluecoyote

May 22, 2009, 4:32 PM
I agree Sprint has improved from the abominable state they were in late 2006/2007 (ever tried using a Sprint RAZR? Awful) , but it's still not enough as a whole. Beyond the Pre, we're looking at the same old Sprint.

I'm not disagreeing with Sprint's need of the Pre as a 'killer' device, in fact, the Pre is the perfect device for Sprint. The problem is that this is the opportunity for Sprint to execute a smooth launch of a hyped product and instead Sprint's manufacturing of a 'shortage' to drum up hype. Sprint made a good decision focusing on the Pre, not arguing that. However, unlike AT&T, Sprint needs to first appease its own customers before the Pre can gain foothold. (The iPhone has a loyal Apple following because Apple has a good repu...
(continues)
...
Slammer

May 23, 2009, 8:53 AM
I can agree with you on the criteria aspect. To facilitate a high profile device such as the Iphone or the Pre, this would require precision marketing and strategy. Apple excelled in this because of funds allocated for ads, promotions, media coverage, the product itself and the public reaction to all of these. In short, Apple spared no expense to push and hype the Iphone months in advance before release. It had sold itself before launch. And now the media just keeps feeding the public with its success adding to the hype.

The Pre however is up against the opposite. While the Pre is the best we heve seen since the Iphone, Both companies(Sprint and Palm) have had to pinch their pennies and essentially do not have the luxury of financial powe...
(continues)
...

This forum is closed.

Please log in to report a message to the moderator.

This forum is closed.


all discussions

Subscribe to Phone Scoop News with RSS Follow @phonescoop on Threads Follow @phonescoop on Mastodon Phone Scoop on Facebook Follow on Instagram

 

Playwire

All content Copyright 2001-2024 Phone Factor, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Content on this site may not be copied or republished without formal permission.