Verizon to Use Spectrum Winnings for LTE
LTE 2 yrs???
That is a pritty bold claim for a technology which has yet to be deployed any where. no one can even show that it will work.
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Yep it has, there was a headline on PhoneScoop like 2 weeks ago that said Moto completed a LTE to Rev A handoff.
The "when" is hard to say but there certainly seems to be a hastening about LTE, both from a carries standpoint and hardware makers such as Nokia Seimens, Motorola, Vodafone, Verizon, and AT&T.
Before 2011 would be nice. But for the time being what AT&T says we're gonna be getting out of HSDPA before the end of '08 isn't too bad, supposedly 7.2mbps.
The "when" is hard to say but there certainly seems to be a hastening about LTE, both from a carries standpoint and hardware makers such as Nokia Seimens, Motorola, Vodafone, Verizon, and AT&T.
Before 2011 would be nice. But for the time being what AT&T says we're gonna be getting out of HSDPA before the end of '08 isn't too bad, supposedly 7.2mbps.
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yes you are correct phonescoop did have an article about the first ever evdo hand off to lte. but where did this happen? was it done by a tester driving around a city? no it was done by a tech in a lab. while this is a first step this is still a long ways from joe wireless user buying a lte phone.
remember labs are funny things, in the labs hsdpa has a data speed of 7.2 how ever real speeds are closer to 500k which is still pretty good for a wireless device. however you need to remember the lab is a very different place then the real world.
i think the bigger thing to remember is hsdpa evdo the exact same thing. now i know some egg head is going to start spouting some hoopla about this is faster or that has lower latency. the reality ...
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remember labs are funny things, in the labs hsdpa has a data speed of 7.2 how ever real speeds are closer to 500k which is still pretty good for a wireless device. however you need to remember the lab is a very different place then the real world.
i think the bigger thing to remember is hsdpa evdo the exact same thing. now i know some egg head is going to start spouting some hoopla about this is faster or that has lower latency. the reality ...
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Which was also on the front page of phonescoop, though that was months ago. Those real world tests were driving around using a wireless card if I recal correctly. So LTE itself definetly isn't THAT far from being put into use.
As for as trading off from EVDO to LTE, that very well may not have been real world tested, but does that matter? Now, I'm totally ignorant about this stuff, so I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the trade off was more of a software based thing, not hardware. Is that true? If so, then it wouldn't need to be fully tested before the system was built, they would simply need to upgrade the system ONCE lte was in place.
As for as trading off from EVDO to LTE, that very well may not have been real world tested, but does that matter? Now, I'm totally ignorant about this stuff, so I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the trade off was more of a software based thing, not hardware. Is that true? If so, then it wouldn't need to be fully tested before the system was built, they would simply need to upgrade the system ONCE lte was in place.
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EddieT said:
Which was also on the front page of phonescoop, though that was months ago. Those real world tests were driving around using a wireless card if I recal correctly. So LTE itself definetly isn't THAT far from being put into use.
As for as trading off from EVDO to LTE, that very well may not have been real world tested, but does that matter? Now, I'm totally ignorant about this stuff, so I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the trade off was more of a software based thing, not hardware. Is that true? If so, then it wouldn't need to be fully tested before the system was built, they would simply need to upgrade the system ONCE lte was in place.
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I just read through this thread and I just wanted to give you my take on it. Verizon picked LTE as a 4g technology about 6 months ago, a very long time in the wireless industry. LTE started showing its face a couple years ago. That being said, I don't think Verizon wanted everyone to know what they were up to. For all we know, Verizon has had LTE up and running for 6 months, which is why they announced they picked it at that time. Hypothetically speaking, now that they have done real-world testing for 6 months and they know it will work, all they have to do is build out their network which will take until 2010. I'm not saying this is truth, but I am saying that's what I would do if I were Verizon and I think it's a reasonable assumption. 😎
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stevelvl said:
of course in the wireless industry 2 years is a long time. in 2 years lte could be what tdma is today. or even worse it very well could go the way of evdv 😳
I agree that technology changes quickly and lte may be old news one day. One important point to keep in mind is that this industry is supporting wimax and lte. Without that support, any alternate technology will be ignored. The next step is for customers to decide which they perfer. Once that is done, then you'll see more support for one over the other.
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It is Long Term Evolution for a reason it will take a long time and they will change the product a bunch before it actually hits the scene. Verizon is not going to release a product that is not at the top of the line. Not to mention Verizon is predominantly owned by Voda which is at the tops in Europe. They are working on it and it will more than likely be much faster than AT&T
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"Verizon is not going to release a product that is not at the top of the line."
Apparently you are not aware that verizon offeres ptt. but i honestly do not expect you to because by all accounts it is the worst in the industry.
Apparently you are not aware that verizon offeres ptt. but i honestly do not expect you to because by all accounts it is the worst in the industry.
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I care about neither verizon or cingular, however as a fellow salesman i have gotten to know the product and would like to let you know that in no way is AT&T faster or anywhere near the speeds of Verizon. Vodafone a major retailer of Europe owns over 54% of Verizon. How do you feel about Vodafone, please answer. There is no competitor in Europe for Vodafone. There is not a chance that Vodafone will let Verizon slip in the retail markets of America. LTE will be fast. Look for Sprints WIMAX
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stop trying to get people angry... they have proven on serveral occasions that HSPA 7.2 is faster than 1xEV-DO r0 and in street tests rA. and that the IPHONE using EDGE can load pages faster than Verizon's vx10000. You should learn to study other forums before you start talking out of your butt. thank you for you concern...
not to mention Verizon's $30 billion debt
not to mention Verizon's $30 billion debt
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no need to look at phones true speed I feel may be better determined with the broadband cards, tell me who is leading in that category I like I said am neither a AT&T fan nor am I a Verizon fan. I'm only going by what I have seen in person. Debt is felt by every company look at any major company
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that all depends on where you live, if you have AT&T's 3g in your area HSPA would be the choice to go, but the problem with AT&T is they have a 5000mb "soft limit" on their data cards. If you go over your limit they call you and want to work out other options for you.
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I agree with you on that and it does slow down the speed of the card. I was merely saying that in the store the speeds for the card are much faster. Beleive me if I have to go for a broadband card I would do it with Sprint. When I compare something I like to compare something that is the same thing thats all.
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The reason why the iPhone may seem faster than the Voyager is because the processor and the OS in the iPhone is far more superior than the Voyager. Data speeds is also dependent on the processor and the operating system. Try having broadbad speeds on Windows 3.1 with a system that has 66mhz and 32MB of RAM ... not going to fly.
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another thing.
if u use the voyager as a teathering mode, the speeds are there because the voyager doesn't have to process any data ... just transmit it to the computer.
if u use the voyager as a teathering mode, the speeds are there because the voyager doesn't have to process any data ... just transmit it to the computer.
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ATT has a 'soft limit' on their data. They say 'Hey, you're running over, cut it out or we're gonna cut you off!'. Verizon also has a soft limit of 5GB... but instead they charge overages (aka make a ridiculous bill). Which would you prefer, 'Hey watch out' or 'HAHAHAH $400 bill'?
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they dont shut you off they call and threaten they will shut u off... plus you get free wifi anywhere you revieve a signal
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Uh, you know that Verizon is in debt and not Verizon Wireless right? Get it right, Verizon Wirless didnt buy the spectrum Verizon did, also it is normal when a company has debt, remember it doesnt matter as long as your revenue exceeds that and you have millions in operating cash flow look up Verizon's finacial data, again Verizon not Verizon Wireless.
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hey Nardfard,
i didnt know you were an investment banker. what i do know is they are the same company therefore both are in debt and your a lint licker!
i didnt know you were an investment banker. what i do know is they are the same company therefore both are in debt and your a lint licker!
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Okay smart guy, if they are the same company y is Verizon Communications traded publicly and Verizon Wireless is not traded because it is privatly held company. Vodafone also has a stake in Verizon Wireless but that doesn't mean thay also own part of Verizon Communications, but if your comment where correct then I guess Verizon Wireless, Verizon Communication and Vodafone are same company I think not. No im not an investment banker but my brother in-law works for e-trade, and all my family trades with e-trade, so you dont have to be an ivestment banker to know these thing you just need to google it or wiki it.
Both verizon companies are owned by Cellco Partnership.
Both verizon companies are owned by Cellco Partnership.
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wade496 said:
I care about neither verizon or cingular, however as a fellow salesman i have gotten to know the product and would like to let you know that in no way is AT&T faster or anywhere near the speeds of Verizon. Vodafone a major retailer of Europe owns over 54% of Verizon. How do you feel about Vodafone, please answer. There is no competitor in Europe for Vodafone. There is not a chance that Vodafone will let Verizon slip in the retail markets of America. LTE will be fast. Look for Sprints WIMAX
Vodafone owns like 45%, Verizon owns 55%, or withing a percentage of what I said. Vodafone is the minorty partner.
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Vodafone is a carrier, not a retailler.
Vodafone has a 45% stake in Verizon Wireless, not over 54%
In Europe, and around the world, there are competitors to Vodafone - T-Mobile is one of them, '3' is another.
WiMAX will exist, however, until it has some devices, carriers, and roaming agreements, it won't become a large global player. The GSM/UMTS market is approaching 3 billion subs right now, and the GSM --> UMTS --> LTE path is the logical one for most carriers.
Vodafone has a 45% stake in Verizon Wireless, not over 54%
In Europe, and around the world, there are competitors to Vodafone - T-Mobile is one of them, '3' is another.
WiMAX will exist, however, until it has some devices, carriers, and roaming agreements, it won't become a large global player. The GSM/UMTS market is approaching 3 billion subs right now, and the GSM --> UMTS --> LTE path is the logical one for most carriers.
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