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thickjake

Aug 8, 2007, 2:24 PM
So what is really new here.. Carriers already have negotiated rates with roaming partners.
Unless they are actually ready to say what that rate is, is doesn't mean anything. To bad the FCC is to afraid of offending anyone to pass any real rules with teeth.

Don't get me wrong, a free market should determine the pricing structure without interference from government. But just another example of them doing something half assed.
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tkvzw

Aug 8, 2007, 3:17 PM
actually, roaming was negotiatied only if they wanted too. this makes it mandatory that carriers have to allow roaming. sweet for my area with US Cell and VZW now have to play nice with each other.

just wonder how that's going to work with CDMA and GSM.
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Argonnj

Aug 8, 2007, 6:30 PM
tkvzw said:
actually, roaming was negotiatied only if they wanted too. this makes it mandatory that carriers have to allow roaming. sweet for my area with US Cell and VZW now have to play nice with each other.

just wonder how that's going to work with CDMA and GSM.


Uh, its not. Two seperate technologies. You need a GSM phone to work with a GSM network and likewise with CDMA. Nothing to do with roaming agreements.
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BigShowJB

Aug 10, 2007, 9:11 AM
Argonnj said:
tkvzw said:
actually, roaming was negotiatied only if they wanted too. this makes it mandatory that carriers have to allow roaming. sweet for my area with US Cell and VZW now have to play nice with each other.

just wonder how that's going to work with CDMA and GSM.


Uh, its not. Two seperate technologies. You need a GSM phone to work with a GSM network and likewise with CDMA. Nothing to do with roaming agreements.


unless the firmware is modified on the 8830 to roam on US GSM networks... extremely unlikely, but it is one scenario
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PerfectForums

Aug 11, 2007, 12:25 AM
BigShowJB said:
Argonnj said:
tkvzw said:
actually, roaming was negotiatied only if they wanted too. this makes it mandatory that carriers have to allow roaming. sweet for my area with US Cell and VZW now have to play nice with each other.

just wonder how that's going to work with CDMA and GSM.


Uh, its not. Two seperate technologies. You need a GSM phone to work with a GSM network and likewise with CDMA. Nothing to do with roaming agreements.


unless the firmware is modified on the 8830 to roam on US GSM networks... extremely unlikely, but it is one scenario



The supported GSM bands on the 8830 are 900/1800 - these are not the U....
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muchdrama

Aug 8, 2007, 3:24 PM
thickjake said:
So what is really new here.. Carriers already have negotiated rates with roaming partners.
Unless they are actually ready to say what that rate is, is doesn't mean anything. To bad the FCC is to afraid of offending anyone to pass any real rules with teeth.

Don't get me wrong, a free market should determine the pricing structure without interference from government. But just another example of them doing something half assed.


The magic words are "reasonable rates".
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techie2001

Aug 8, 2007, 8:16 PM
Right, however, the way most carriers have setup their national networks is through the extensive use of Preferred roam lists (PRL) or similar. The PRL controls your phone's signal strength and roaming indicator. If you are in an area where your carrier does not have a negotiated rate, the PRL can direct your phone to say "No Service". Only if you call 911 will the PRL be overridden to look for any available compatible services.

As such, this, from a technical standpoint, means nothing. If you're on a "no roam" plan in the united states (Allover, America's Choice II, etc.) and your carrier of choice uses a PRL, your carrier is still telling your phone what network to use and what not to use.

If via some sort of software you override ...
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SPCSVZWJeff

Aug 10, 2007, 10:53 AM
Another thing that will happen is that competitors cannot "blacklist" each other in markets where they directly compete.
The other thing which is big for CDMA users is that roaming partners won't be able to block text messages. Hopefully they will open up the data as well.
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