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T-Mobile Files Cease and Desist Against Verizon Over Ads

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Top message:  The truth hurts by aeternavi   Mar 13, 2014, 8:30 PM

Replying to:  Re: Get off the crack pipe by Zpike   Mar 30, 2014, 12:28 AM

Re: Get off the crack pipe

by DarkStar    Mar 30, 2014, 2:34 PM

Zpike said:
>>But you said that regular old LTE is 4G.

No, I never said that. Infact, I clearly stated in several places that it was not, and also explicitly named the technologies that are. Reread my post.

LTE Advanced does reach 100mb/s and all that LTE equipment can and will eventually be upgraded. However, that's a moot point because LTE networks do actually represent a 4th generation buildout of a new network. So, in that sense they are 4G.

So you did say that it was 4G.

>>And since the standards body who knows more about this then you could ever know declared HSPA+ and regular old LTE 4G then you don't have a leg to stand one.

Stop spinning the bullshit. We both know, based on the article that YOU linked, that the ITU caved because they didn't have the money to fight the mass disinformation campaigns being conducted by the marketing departments of the carriers. And even though they caved, they are still standing by the technical specification, but just allowing the carriers to say they have 4G anyway. But I already covered this on the last post and you are ignoring it. That's not how intelligent discourse works.

So yo admit that the ITU does say that LTE, WiMax, and HSPA+ can be called 4G. So what is your point?

>>You are arguing your opinion. I am point out facts made by the people who create facts.

No, I am stating facts. You are twisting half truths to further the propaganda campaign of T-Mobile, and there are very few facts to be found there. The technical specification for 4G has not changed. Reread your own article.

Again the fact of the matter is what the ITU said. Its not a half truth. Its the facts.

>>Actually LTE is not the fourth build out of a network. There was AMPS, TDMA, GSM, CDMA, UMTS, EVDO, HSPA, HSPA+. That is a lot of networks before LTE.

First of all, T-mobile never had CDMA or EVDO service.

Secondly, AMPS is a first generation network. TDMA and GSM represent a second generation network, with GSM incorporating TDMA technology. UMTS, HSPA, and HSPA+ are all the same family of technology and constitute a third generation network.

So, you see by either actual number of networks, or by technical category of the network's generation, T-mobile simply only has a third generation network.

Just because T-mobile never had CDMA or EVDO doesn't mean they don't count. So if T-mobile never had Edge then LTE would only be 3G according to your math.

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