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Sep 29, 2008, 7:33 PM

I would like to personal welcome t-mobile to 3g

On behalf of myself and everyone else who already has this service we would like to say congragulations! for finally catching up. Only to be left even farther behind. Pretty soon we will be on 2 the next generation of network speed. And your iphone, instinct, wannabe is a nice phone thanks to Google and Htc. Welcome to 3g kido's
Don't hate just because your jealous that your carrier didn't get such a cool phone. Rolling Eyes Yeah every phone that comes out with a touch screen is a iphone wannabe...right Wink Yeah HTC hasn't ever done a touch screen in the past...never. Rolling Eyes
DiamondPro said:
On behalf of myself and everyone else who already has this service we would like to say congragulations! for finally catching up. Only to be left even farther behind. Pretty soon we will be on 2 the next generation
Annoying think you know everything no substance troll.

DiamondSprintPimp is a more appropriate name Laughing

Sep 24, 2008, 1:22 AM

Finally the G1

Embarassed oh yeah i forgot tmobiles 3g coverage does not even cover a quarter of the U.S; on top of that... you spend that much on a phone that just like the iphone requires higher data speeds and a much more advanced network; then you have tmobile just releasing that they are gonna restrict you to only up to 1gb of data usage a month.... hmmmmm good luck using that phone to its full capability; oh yeah and did i forget to mention the instinct is on a much more advanced network, with great coverage, much more advanced features.... and with sprint headed into 4g its about time tmobile caught up with 3g... Hey i got a great question lets say you do buy this phone for the retail price of uhhhh 129.99 with a 2 year contract, wheres the gps navigati...
Not taking sides or anything, but just to provide some balance by way of counter-points:

On 3G coverage, T-Mobile is rolling out 3G VERY aggressively in coming months. »

They claim that 2/3 of thei...
Uh, the Dare is a locked down POS running a POS OS with a POS touch screen.

The Instinct is just as bad, though I hear they're going to add J2ME support... Wow, J2ME... holy cow.

The iPhone and Android are smartphones running sophisticated OS's-...

Sep 25, 2008, 9:12 AM

Install applications *not* through t-mobile app store?

Perhaps the main reason I haven't bought an iPhone is the restrictive policies apple has about application distribution.

If you write an application and I want to install it on my phone, I can't unless you submit it to apple and apple approves it and puts it on their app store. (Or I jailbreak my phone.)

As we have seen, apple has refused to distribute developers' applications when they don't like them, such as when they think they overlap with the built-in applications or when they might subvert Apple's or AT&T's revenue model.

Is the T-Mobile G1 any different? Can I install any application I want on my phone without going through T-Mobile/Google? Or do I have to download the applications from the T-Mobile app store? Is the pho...
I read there will be an easy way to install apps outside of Adroid Market without jailbraeaking. Sorry, I can't find the source right now.
The Android OS is 100% open so as far as I am aware the sky is the limit. We just had one of our engineers working with us today stating exactly this that many developers have already received information from the Android OS to have many apps ready a...
Its not just the iphone all Apple products are like that. You can only put itunes on your ipod unless your smart enough to use limewire or know how to convert media.

so it didn't surprise me when i heard about that.
There is a lot more to be said about open apps. Right now your cell phone is protected from the very things that harm or infest your computer. lets see open apps= more freebie's, great software, more options. I know I know, but this also equals junk a...

Sep 29, 2008, 10:36 PM

how does the g1 compare to the wing?

I couldn't do a comparison of the two, as it is not yet up on phone scoop.
I have a wing and love it, but I can get the upgrade..If it is an upgrade.
Wing = Ford Pinto
G1 = Ferrai
you can only upgrade if you pre order it wont fully be a upgrade till novemeber. but i can go ahead and help you with that. really depends what your looking for..

batt life >> g1 5hrs
wing 3-5
memory >> g1 256mb flash/128mb...

Oct 8, 2008, 3:45 PM

Just wana clear things up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

So they did make a application that will let you have a on screen keyboard???? and has anybody tried to c if they could find accessories for this phone yet.....cuz i went on ebay and i couldnt find any suggestions?
It has a real keyboard... Confused

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Rich Brome

Oct 20, 2008, 3:03 PM

specs posted / new forum active

BTW, specs have been posted: »

...and the preferred forum for G1 discussion is now here: »

Sep 26, 2008, 4:43 PM


where did you get this info? please post a link to validate

This whole thread is stupid.
It's true. I have one, and don't see any way to save photos received via MMS.

Sep 29, 2008, 12:44 PM

g1 music

how much music can the mircosd card hold without nothin being saved to it and can u make custom ringone or would u have to buy it from the tmobile cappy store
Really depends on file size but you can hold up to 400 songs on a 1 gb if you only put strictly music. Maybe more. Just depends if you adding album art with it, and the format of the song.

Very Happy Surprised
also is there a video viewer for watching stored movies?
It comes with a 1 GB microSD card and can accept up to at least an 8 GB card.

How many songs you can fit into that much memory depends on the file format, compression, and length of each song.

Sep 30, 2008, 11:06 AM

g1 phone blue

can this phone use bluetooth stereo head sets
i dont think it does just yet but it definitely will.
Out of the box the phone doesn't support stereo bluetooth because google had issues with it. But they have said it will be added in a future update.
No, at least not at launch.

Oct 16, 2008, 1:22 AM

Bluetooth Profiles

Hi, what Bluetooth profiles does the G1 currently support? The only thing I've found is that it "supports Bluetooth 2.0!!!!"

Lovely, but what can I do with it?

Headset and handsfree. That's it.

Oct 2, 2008, 2:13 PM

Data service required??

From what I understand, the data service is required to get internet and all that and without this service the phone is pretty much an ordinary phone with a touch screen. Shouldnt the WIFI still work w/o the data service? I dont want to pay the extra money for data service when I can pick free wifi connection at school/home/work, and other places as well. I dont understand, someone please explain
You will need the data connection at first because you will need to activate a gmail account. After that from I guess you could cancel the data but why would you? If your going to get a top end phone you should be able to afford to run it. Thats li...
Nope you have the choice to take the plan off. its like the sidekick you have to register it to the network. after that if you wanna use wifi you can. ENJOY
The phone won't work without a Google account, and I think that set-up step requires T-Mobile data service. I don't see a wi-fi option during that first step. You can't even power it up fully without a Google account set up and linked to it.

Sep 24, 2008, 5:34 PM

Thank You PhoneScoop

for the most comprehensive and factual review of the G1... and for all the photos and video.

There's been a lot of hype over this launch, and lots of fanaticism for and bashing of this product on other sites. I appreciate your factual product presentation.

The G1 appears to be very much what it is, an early product, a bit rough around the edges, but with the capability to grow as the OS gets updated and apps are developed. I can live with the adapter for headsets, though that WAS a stupid decision by HTC.

I only hope I'm a little happier with the keyboard than you seemed to be.. I've been holding off on replacing my Treo, waiting for this. I've ordered 1 for my wife and 1 for myself. T-Mobile kicks VZW's coverage in my house, and 3G...
Yes, thank you Phonescoop. I agree 100%. I'm very excited for the G1 and will be getting it at launch. It is very refreshing being able to go to a site that just gives you the facts and doesn't try to be funny, sarcastic, or angry. I commend you o...
Thank you Phone Scoop! I highly appreciate the elaborate information on this new phone. I actually was considering not to get one anymore, but went ahead and ordered mine. And now I am even more statisfied with it then I was upon hearing the "rumor" o...
Aw, thanks guys! Smile
Very Happy I preorderd mine friday.And I Do not care what kind of plug in it has for the headset!That's why I bought a blu tooth wireless headset.As like you I can not wait till 10/22!!
Thank You, phone scoop for always having up to date info on more than just one provider. I know its not easy with such much out there but you guys do a really great job. Im impressed with the quality of your work. You guys dont miss a detail and have ...

Sep 24, 2008, 12:43 PM

Too bad it's made by HTC - so what's the point?

Overall the OS looks solid, too bad it's made by HTC, which I think is going to be Android's downfall (all of the good hardware manufacturers have their OWN OS.)

HTC (Heavy Taiwanese Crap) devices always seem glitchy as hell and have really shoddy build quality. The devices made to other manufacturer's specs seem to be solid enough (Palm), but I'll never live down the POS Apache or Mogul.

The real problem is that this device looks like a 'prototype,' not a finished product. I'm not even sure what its purpose is.... the business crowd is going to want a Blackberry, the trendy crowd is going to want an iPhone, and the super-nerds are going to want WM crap.
the only reason htc was so glitchy is cause it was running windows crap plain and simple the point is (open os) so the super nerdy kids like myself can customize this bad boy
This "Super Nerd" wants a linux based phone that I can hack.

This phone will be for the nitch market its intended.
bluecoyote said:
Overall the OS looks solid, too bad it's made by HTC, which I think is going to be Android's downfall

The G1 is only the first Android device. Many other manufacturers are also working on their...
you will be able to load android on ANY phone. even your sill iphone
Maybe the htc phones made for tmobile. Visit the website for yourself and see tmobile gets prototypes compare to everyone else. T-mobile obviously get crapy phones from them intentionally any one with a few minutes to browse can see the wing a...
There also seems to be alot.Of bashing on T-Mobile and the new G1 on this site.Their sure are alot of jealous people on here.Why bash a phone that.You guys either cant afford or arnt intrested in?Dont hate the phone.Hate the system thats holding you b...
pdxmatt you clearly missed my point. But that does not suprise me you are a t-mobile customer. Yall are so far behind its insulting!!! U should all be embarassed Embarassed
I am a tmobile dealer and none of you guys have any idea what you are talking about the fact is it is and open os meaning you can do anything with it including programs like outlook word excell it is sutied for all consumers teens,bussiness man and ev...
YOu guys seem to big missing it completely. By the time this phone even comes close to surpassing the Diamond or even the Pro (which i doubt it ever will). By then We meaning Sprint, Verizon, and even At@t will have better phones. t-mobile is always i...

Sep 26, 2008, 4:26 PM

I'm sick of hearing this crap about the Instinct

After your disastrous reviews of both the Glyde and Instinct, I am a little put off that you never maned up and actually tried other units, like you said you were going to. The Instinct does not have a capacitive touchscreen, but it is not anywhere near the level that you make it out to be. I have been using the phone since the launch date and can tell you that that initial Instinct review, where you harped on the display for false presses and unresponsiveness is absolute trash. The touch display on this phone is nearly iPhone level of responsiveness, to both flick gestures, grabbing the screen for scrolling, and selecting items. Just because you had no idea how to calibrate the display out of the box doesn't mean you can continually harp on...
the Instinct is not now nor ever will be a competitor to the iphone and or the g1 it lacks in too many areas its a wanna-be not to mention the fact that its with sprint who had -1,000,000 customers in the first quarter....

talk to me when they get ...
I never had to "calibrate" my iPhone's screen. It worked perfectly out of the box.

Oct 2, 2008, 5:32 PM

Will it have a multi tap touch screen?

I want to know if it will have a multi tap touch screen like the iphone. This function allows the iphone to do cool things like shrink and expand pictures. This will open a lot of doors for writing 3rd party apps. does anyone have any feedback???
Yes and no. From what I have heard apple has the patent on the finger thing with the pictures, so google would have to pay apple. But it does have double tap just someone would have to write an app to use it.

Oct 1, 2008, 6:04 PM

Youtube capability?

Since this is a google phone, it must be able to access youtube?
Yes there is access to youtube through the youtube app. Its not available through the browser though.

Sep 28, 2008, 2:29 AM

i thik flex pay can pre-order????

today i logged into my sisters flex pay account and it was letting her pre-order the g1 she just had to pay for it on the spot instead of being billed for it.

is it a glitch or can she really order it?
From what I have heard flex pay cannot preorder the G1.

Sep 26, 2008, 3:33 AM

what day will it actually ship?

do you think they will wait to start shipping on the 20th or do you think they will ship sooner? i ordered three lol
nope all on the 22nd store or preorder doesnt matter
If you preordered the phone you will receive it on or around the 22nd.
It will be on my doorstep bye 10/22.Yay!!

Sep 23, 2008, 12:52 PM

G-1 goodness

This is looking very promising so far. The phone looked pretty speedy in the demo videos they showed but we will see how fast it really is when actual videos come out. Hopefully they add some sync options before launch and allow tethering some time soon or come out with a 3G aircard. I am very excited to see what types of apps people come up with and what apps will come preloaded on launch. Otherwise this looks very promising!
im most exited to see what they do with the acceleromitor apps!!!!
The demo's seem fake I wonder if there actually on t-mobile network when they do them. Besides they dont have good coverage in most areas anyway. I think google will do all they can to boost speed when browsing and as many features as they can. It the...

Sep 23, 2008, 6:22 PM


What good is this device if you get no service?
T-mobile network is very unreliable!!!
ya but its much cheaper and besides if u don like tmobile you dont have to get it
That's an old fable. T-Mobile coverage is excellent as of late. I'm so tired of hearing this s**t about coverage. People are hating on T-Mo and have never used the service.
In my opinion, I believe people are jealous of the pricing plans at T-Mo, and...
not our fault you owe t-mobile money. pay your bill next time.

or maybe your riding the verizon train. If i put out enough advertising that says dog crap has vitamin c, you would buy it.

CDMA is the way of the future! go read a book. It is your...
I've been with T-Mobile since 2002, and I will agree that penetration into buildings is spotty (just like any high frequency system like Sprint), but outdoors I no longer have any problems.
Evil or Very Mad Sounds to me like someones a little jealous.That they've already wasted their money on an already outdated iphone 3G.Waiting on 10/22 to get here.Peace!
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