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klee0032

Jul 30, 2008, 4:10 PM
I was wondering if anybody actually knew why the I phone does not have mms. I would like to know the specific reason why apple decided not to have mms. Thanks
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out1awd

Jul 31, 2008, 7:17 AM
Its my understanding that the iphone 3g is being marketed to the business class customer as well as the everyday user. Such as the new addition of the Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync. If you check the apple forums your not the only one who doesnt understand why they have decided to not have the mms feature with the phone. From where i sit if i had to answer this and tell a customer why, (becuase i deal with the billing side of it and tech,) currently with the plans that come with the iphones, the data and internet features are tied together, any pictures you want to send can be sent through the email. which yes i know is a pain but thats just the way it is. Until apple decides to change or add and app that will allow you to send mms, you...
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schlittertex

Aug 12, 2008, 1:48 PM
plus you can use email, and that is better
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Phone_Revenger

Aug 14, 2008, 12:51 PM
sure, cause I can check email on my regular phone which I would be paying $15 extra ontop of my text on an attachment my phone may not support.
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chainmail311

Dec 11, 2008, 9:48 PM
you don't understand: your phone has a built in email address that sends pictures to your regular phone like any standard MMS. It's usually (your phone number)@mms.att.com or something like that.

My Dad sends me picture texts to my email on my iPhone all the time.
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wookiee2cu

Jul 31, 2008, 6:24 PM
I hope they come up with something. I just got my first MMS on my iPhone last night and what a pain in the butt to view the picture. You basically get a text with a web link and it has a two lines of characters (user name/password if you will) that you have to write down, then hit the link, then enter all the log in info., then you can finally view the picture. Simply retarded.
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slackrock

Aug 1, 2008, 10:22 AM
Will the MMS saga never end... oi ๐Ÿ™„
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BarnettJr2

Aug 9, 2008, 8:31 PM
Had old iphone & new one now. Just put email address on all contacts. ATT is, Complete#@mms.att.net. Then just email, works great & give friends iphone email address, shazam, no prob. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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vinnyfrancisco

Aug 14, 2008, 2:45 PM
To actually answer this thread I'll tell you what I've heard as to why there's the lack of mms. Steve jobs as we all know is a control freak. Giving us the mms feature, someone would figure out how to send iTunes content, thus Steve would be Losing his .99 cents per song. This is the same reason why we can't send stuff via wifi or Bluetooth. It all comes down to losing that cash money. ;)
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ECANTU

Aug 18, 2008, 2:00 PM
well, wouldnt we be able to send itunes stuff thru email then?
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durkadurkha

Sep 22, 2008, 4:13 PM
thats not true because they can program DRM locks on that kind of stuff... kind of like when you buy a cell phone game from ATT- you cant send that thru MMS or even Bluetooth
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chainmail311

Dec 11, 2008, 9:52 PM
Not true: I can get unprotected MP3's sent to my email account, and can open and play them on my phone.

There goes that idea. Try again.

It has something more to do with Steve not seeing the point of MMS, when Email is better. You see, if EVERYONE has an iPhone, MMS is obsolete. Thus, creating his own little stupid world.
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amagorno

Sep 1, 2008, 4:06 PM
How did you receive an MMS? My friends send them and nothing comes in.
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kboho

Sep 2, 2008, 12:53 PM
Have them send an MMS to your email address. They don't have to send it through their email address as all phones allow you to send SMS and MMS messages to email address as well as cell numbers.
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beergirl

Sep 4, 2008, 4:42 PM
wookiee2cu said:
I hope they come up with something. I just got my first MMS on my iPhone last night and what a pain in the butt to view the picture. You basically get a text with a web link and it has a two lines of characters (user name/password if you will) that you have to write down, then hit the link, then enter all the log in info., then you can finally view the picture. Simply retarded.


What's even more retarded is the lack of copy/paste.
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pfs2009

Sep 7, 2008, 4:04 PM
Wow, I thought MMS on Window Mobile phone was bad. ๐Ÿ˜›
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BarnettJr2

Sep 16, 2008, 11:16 AM
Have people email to your iphone's email add & shazam, no prog. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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durkadurkha

Sep 22, 2008, 4:15 PM
people have a text messaging plan that covers MMS--- my unlimited Text plan does not offer internet why would i want to pay to send someone a picture when they bought the iphone... thats just ignorant
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willv

Oct 1, 2008, 3:44 PM
with vzw, if you send a mms to an email address, its still an mms. just like a text to an email. you dont need internet to send it. i dont know about other carriers.
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truetravis9287

Sep 26, 2008, 2:11 PM
atleast my g1 has pic messaging ahahahaha
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willv

Oct 1, 2008, 3:42 PM
dude its tmobile, how is your 3g workin lol.
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flairbrtndr

Oct 8, 2008, 5:43 PM
we all know you dont have a G1 yet stop trying to be cool
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DiamondPro

Oct 8, 2008, 10:57 PM
The idevice or the g1? Ill start with the Topic first, the iphone is far from the best phone on the market PERIOD! First of all its a phone it should take good if not great calls which it does not. This is an ipod turned into a phone should be way more impressive as a media device. No mms No video this is pathetic ๐Ÿคฃ Free flip phones come with this service not to mention this feature has been around for a long time, even before the ipod. at&t's 3g sucks and safari crashes more in a day then my phone has since i purchased it over a year ago. What a rip off. Cant change ur sim card or battery manually wtf. What if u need to swap phones or worse battery dies and no outlet near by POS refund! ASAP list goes on but I hope u get the point!!!
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3william56

Oct 22, 2008, 9:14 AM
Truly, to use your comparison, the iPhone is a Porsche without a cassette deck (MMS). It's not necessary when you have full email support.

If you want to argue that, for the money, you should have the CHOICE to use it, I won't fight you there.

I've had both iPhones since the day they've come out. Never had the issues you've referenced here. Safari is brilliant, battery life is acceptable (given all it does) and 3G has been fine here in the Philadelphia suburbs.

Sounds like you need a new phone. Good luck.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 27, 2008, 4:40 PM
3william56 said:
Truly, to use your comparison, the iPhone is a Porsche without a cassette deck (MMS). It's not necessary when you have full email support.

Haha...I used almost the same comparison today. Except I used a Corvette and an 8 track player. ๐Ÿ™‚

The people that complain about a full web enabled phone not having MMS are the same people that complain their flat screen TV does not have a two prong attachment for their rabbit ears.
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ariveradse

Oct 25, 2008, 8:22 AM
let me correct you on something you remove the sim card from an iphone that what the hole on top of the phone is for.
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ariveradse

Oct 5, 2008, 9:19 AM
the closest thing to getting mms on your iphone is to download palingro form the apps store its free.
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Laxgoly

Oct 8, 2008, 9:44 AM
Will Palringo let you send pix like MMS to say verizon? if that is a feature how do you have to add that person?
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DiamondPro

Oct 8, 2008, 11:23 PM
Now the g1 ๐Ÿคฃ an even bigger joke its on t-mobile's network ๐Ÿคฃ Not to mention the fact that the g1 has no mms video or video capture. ๐Ÿ˜ณ NO BT transfer no flash support. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ New 3g network that has no coverage with at@t having 3g problems I would be surprised if t-mobile can pull it off any better. t-mobile whole line up stinks and this is one of the ugliest phones I've seen in a long time. Htc does make beautiful phones t-mobile what happened here ๐Ÿคจ . I guess phone design just wasn't in the budget. โ˜น๏ธ This phone is for wishful thinkers because it doesn't come with these apps they just say someone will make it ๐Ÿคฃ Ten years from now they will still be waiting for camcorder ๐Ÿคฃ t-mobile is just so far behind ๐Ÿ˜ข
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ariveradse

Oct 25, 2008, 8:38 AM
you know the diamond is all that great either its slow and can have alot of lag between programs.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 20, 2008, 5:21 AM
MMS is outdated technology. Almost all phones can send to an e-mail address now and most can receive e-mail as well. Why pay to send a pic through MMS when you can send it in a higher res format for free in an e-mail?

If you feel you must have MMS just download Flutter.
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durkadurkha

Nov 21, 2008, 8:57 PM
that defeats the purpose... my wife and I have family messaging (MMS included) she has a z750 and has no need to use the web why should she pay 15 dollars for something she will use once or twice a month?
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 22, 2008, 3:31 AM
durkadurkha said:
that defeats the purpose... my wife and I have family messaging (MMS included) she has a z750 and has no need to use the web why should she pay 15 dollars for something she will use once or twice a month?

Why would you want an iPhone if you do not use the web or data features? Just buy a camera phone.
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durkadurkha

Nov 23, 2008, 3:26 AM
I use the iPhone and the Internet all the time, my wife on the other hand uses a z750 and she will randomly send me a picture of something she wants to buy, having the iPhone I don't recieve a picture
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 23, 2008, 4:52 AM
durkadurkha said:
I use the iPhone and the Internet all the time, my wife on the other hand uses a z750 and she will randomly send me a picture of something she wants to buy, having the iPhone I don't recieve a picture

Have her take the pic and then e-mail it to your phone from hers. The z750 supports e-mail protocols. MMS is seriously falling to the wayside since almost all phones are not e-mail capable.
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durkadurkha

Nov 24, 2008, 2:44 AM
are you serious? i told you 2 posts ago she doesn't want unlimited INTERNET for sending 5-10 pix a month to me that defeats the purpose of her NOT using an iphone. what I'm trying to say is that people send pictures all the time to iphone users and its an inconvenience to everyone. I'm pretty sure if they can program street view into Maps they can create a MMS feature.
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FSCdude

Nov 24, 2008, 1:47 PM
She doesn't need unlimited internet for sending e-mail. My LG VX 8600 does not even have a web plan and I can still send pic messages to e-mail addresses from it.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 24, 2008, 1:50 PM
FSCdude said:
She doesn't need unlimited internet for sending e-mail. My LG VX 8600 does not even have a web plan and I can still send pic messages to e-mail addresses from it.

I am not sure if that is true or not these days but I could do the same from my 8700 back when I had it. It has been a long time since I have had a phone without a data plan. My partner seems to have no problem sending to and from his phone and he does not have a data plan.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 24, 2008, 2:41 PM
I also need to add that anyone with an iPhone can just add "Flutter" to there phone and then be able to send/receive MMS messages to/from non-iPhone users.
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durkadurkha

Nov 24, 2008, 4:43 PM
you guys are being ignorant, flutter just sends a link to a website with a picture on it!
so she would have to have the internet therefore she might as well just get an iphone herself. ๐Ÿ™„
noobs
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 24, 2008, 5:18 PM
Classy response...you are starting to sound like just an Apple basher and not a real person.

I guess we keep forgetting why anyone with an iPhone would be concerned with such behind the times phones. If you just want picture messaging get a cheap camera phone. If your wife wants to be able to keep up with technology start paying a few dollars a month for internet on her phone.

If you want to stay in the dark ages of cell phone technology do not complain when the rest of the world passes you by and your phone becomes obsolete.
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Rdraper

Nov 24, 2008, 5:20 PM
Agreed...dissing the iPhone because your friend's crappy phone cannot keep up and you are too cheap to do what it takes to make it work is lame. it is like me dissing my 2008 Corvette because it only has two seats.
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durkadurkha

Nov 24, 2008, 5:27 PM
Obama isnt president yet, im not going to pay for everyones cellphone. there is no problem being frugal, i can afford to have my wife get unlimited internet but whats the point of she uses it 5-10 times a month that breaks down to more than a dollar a message i send.
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amagorno

Nov 24, 2008, 6:30 PM
Let's remember that there are two sides to this formula. Everyone that has an iPhone and doesn't think it needs MMS because it has e-mail has a right to that opinion. But the percentages of overall cell phone use aren't in your favor. MMS is not falling, it's growing, regardless of what Apple says. It it were falling, then Telia and others wouldn't work so hard to get it on the iPhone. If it is such a no big deal thing to iPhone owners, why not just support it anyway. You won't have to implement it. My mother for example doesn't have a smartphone. Many if not most cell phone owners don't. She doesn't want e-mail on here phone, so she and my father subscribe to limited number of MMS/SMS messaging. I'm the only one in the family that...
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 24, 2008, 7:01 PM
if you are going to pay for MMS why not just put that same money into paying for web service. Then you can send pics and so much more. Paying for something as limiting as MMS is not very productive.

As far as MMS itself, when I was in Europe last year almost no one used MMS. It seems they all have web enabled phones...some pretty cool ones too.
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amagorno

Nov 24, 2008, 7:10 PM
Again. Telling people with that don't want web services that they are wrong doesn't help. They are the majority. They want MMS, not web service. Telling them to work around the iPhone limitation is the wrong answer. At this point we, the iPhone owners must accept the limitation and be will to live without the MMS commerce with other people. They don't want the web service. They want the MMS. And as the news shows, yes as early as a year ago, MMS was not taking off. But as recently as a month ago, the number of MMS usuages has more than doubled. So, it is not a factual statement that paying for MMS is not very productive, that is an opinion that alienates, the largest share of the cell phone market.

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PoohBoys

Nov 24, 2008, 9:02 PM
You are completely wrong about MMS and are misrepresenting it's value.

MMS has failed to live up to expectations. It has increased slightly in use from "dismal" levels to "slightly better than dismal." It is widely being abandoned in favor of more versatile web based communications. Especially in Asian and European markets.

Anyone interested in the truth about MMS just needs to google the terms "MMS, failed technology" and you will be flooded with tech articles relating how badly MMS has performed as a technology as far as living up to usage expectations.

If you want to cling to MMS and hope the world stops moving on then all I can do is wish you luck and hope that you don't feel too bad when things do not work out the way you hoped...
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amagorno

Nov 24, 2008, 9:26 PM
Well, I've given you truth. Whether you choose to try and understand it is up to you. I am not wrong nor did I misrepresent. You can turn the search around if you are trying to show success and get just as many articles talking about MMS being on the rise and being a success for the future. It just depends what type of search you are trying to do. I agree that IM is hard for MMS to compete with. But trying to predict the direction people will go for use of handsets is next to impossible in this new Web 2.0 age. And the digital natives are out in force. But digital immigrants will clinge to the technologies they feel comfortable with e.g. MMS. It isn't going anywhere any time soon and is on the rise.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 24, 2008, 9:14 PM
All the market analysis reports I have seen show that the profitability of MMS is expected to have peaked in 2008 and will be falling from now on out.

They credit the greatly expanding availability of IM and mobil e-mail on cell phone. MMS cannot compete with these other technologies.
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durkadurkha

Nov 26, 2008, 6:44 PM
Idiot, at&t has it so MMS and SMS are both unlimited on the same text package ๐Ÿ™„
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 7:29 PM
durkadurkha said:
Idiot, at&t has it so MMS and SMS are both unlimited on the same text package ๐Ÿ™„

Those unlimited plans are not free. They charge you for them. You might as well just get internet service as pay for MMS messages. The ones that they try to make appear free are just on the pre-paid phones where you are paying high rates already because you have bad credit and can't get real service. Even then they are only unlimited for in-calling.
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durkadurkha

Nov 26, 2008, 8:11 PM
what are you talking about the unlimited text covers SMS IM's and MMS all for the $20 ๐Ÿคฃ
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 9:06 PM
And $20 is not free is it, brainiac?

For a few dollars more you could get a data plan and have way more at your finger tips than you get with such a limited technology as MMS.
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durkadurkha

Nov 26, 2008, 10:05 PM
$15 dollars for mobile email ๐Ÿ™„ ya thats AWSOME... i hope you can imagine my sarcasm--- all I'm saying is that $15 dollars for everyone i know just so i can send them pictures is expensive... apple could make it more affordable for everyone but they choose not to
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 27, 2008, 4:02 PM
Are you paying for your friends to have cell phone? Or for their messaging plans? Why would you pay for their internet? For the same price as a messaging plan you can tell your friends to send pics to your e-mail account and get them just as fast. Plus you can browse the web, and keep up with your non-cell phone e-mails,
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durkadurkha

Nov 28, 2008, 2:07 PM
PlayboyPenguin said:
For the same price as a messaging plan you can tell your friends to send pics to your e-mail account and get them just as fast.



so i am supposed to talk everyone out of a text package and into unlimited internet? thats just as stupid as putting internet on my wife's phone... your not putting up a good argument that Apple shouldn't put MMS on the iPhone.

just admit that it would be in the customers best interest to add a simple feature to the product list.
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iphonization

Nov 24, 2008, 10:43 PM
For god sake, don't you people have anything else to argue about? I am guessing you're older that 16 years old... this is really funny!!!!!!!!
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