Rumor Mill

Verizon BY FAR has the best and the LARGEST coverage! Up here in Montana, in the vacationers paradise, we see a ton of cingular and t-mobile customers, that have NO coverage and/or service here. And 99% of the time, the customer was told by the rep that sold them the plan, that it won't be aproblem, you will have coverage! It's almost like they have built a wall around Montana, and will not let their coverage work. You reps, and you all know who you are in California,(where most of the vacationers are from) are KILLING yourself for when it comes time for your customers to do an upgrade! Verizon will be taking those customers, willingly, guaranteed! I had a cincular customer from Cali. in yesterday, with no coverage, that was seriously ...
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Who cares about Montana

Obviously the vacationers. You sound like a disgruntled salesman from Cali? Are you the who has been filing your customers heads with this nonsense?

Okay, i can take some crap from people who dog Cingular, b/c true like any company, it has it flaws. But everyone knows Verizon lacks quality service. They use CDMA, which is close to what Cingular used ten years ago. If an average customer uses Verizon, then uses Cingular for a trial 99% of the time the customer will end up with Cingular. And the coverage map works like this, Verizon will put a spot on the map if the phone has one bar. The map that you see with Cingular is ONLY FULL service areas. If you were to put every spot on the map that cingular will have just one bar, they'd still beat Verizon

what have you been smoking buddy? i had cingular before (currently with verizon) and verizons quality sounds much better... and i get alot less dropped calls than i did with cingular.

Good points by both, but obviously we are comparing apples and oranges when it comes to maps. Verizon---- Not a true map, showing coverage digital and analog crap, if sir, you are selling Verizon in Montana, it has to hard to have all of that paper around, you have a map for digital IN service, digital OUT service, N & W map, M2M map, etc. You may want to change companies and sell one map for one company, true Cingular is only GSM and therefore they don't have towers in the sticks of Montana, but they do have the largest DIGITAL service of any company!!!

You are all nutz. Neither company can give a realiable depiction of their coverage map. T-Mobile with the Personal coverage check map (PCC) is the only current carrier that can pull up street level converage and tell you what type of service you should expect on the network. Also T-mobile has service in MT unless you dont think Billings, Great Falls, Helena, or Missoula cities are in MT.

LOL, this is funny.

I had Sprint for 14 days and they promised coverage throughout the entire thumb of Michigan. Their "roaming plan" never did work and fortunately I returned the phones. Later I found out if I didn't use 50%+ in network I'd be charged roaming. So much for their "Fair and Flexible".

Next I went to Cingular. They don't offer coverage in our area. They gave me the "we're constantly upgrading our network" blah blah blah. I then asked a guy at work who has Cingular how his coverage is....uh, well, pretty good. Another guy has T-Mobile...same answer. It also will not work in our area.

I stopped fiddling around and finally asked someone that would know better than anyone..... a truck driver friend. Without hesitation he s...
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Now what type of coverage are you talking about? because Verizon CLAIMS to have the biggest coverage, however, A LOT of their area is roaming or "one-bar" areas that they still put on their maps. When looking at a pamphlet it even says at the bottom in small print: "map may be subject to approval and not accurate" blah blah blah.

Also, Verizon is mainly US.

T-mobile I would say has the biggest WORLD COVERAGE.

Cingular has probably the best US coverage with quality as of now.
Because all of their areas are full access areas plus since they roam off of T-mobile there coverage is a lot greater because they have old AT&T towers, plus free roaming from T-mobile.

T-mobile however, is planning on expensing a lot of money in the ne...
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Cingular has coverage in Puerto Rico AND the Virgin Islands. Practically ALL of Puerto Rico is covered along with the Virgin Islands! 😁

square milage wise alltel actually has the largest footprint, but most of the coverage is rural. As for technology, cdma is not what cingular used ten years ago, that was tdma, and gsm is actually a variation of tdma, cdma is based much differently and is a slightly more recent technology. In truth cingular and most other gsm companies are looking into wcdma in the future. As for realistic coverages, none of them are acurate, they all include there own coverage plus roaming partners coverage and all have a tendency to fill the spaces on there maps, thats why every brochure states this is not a guarantee of coverage. The one thats best is what works where you need it to work and sometimes its best guess or trial and error.

Those Verizon customers in vacationers paradise Montana are roaming on Alltel's network anyway. Albeit rural or "one-bar", GSM companies haven't even touched many non-metropolitan areas thus you have NO service whatsoever.

GSM technology was deployed in 1991 and CDMA in 1995. Both technologies were developed in the 80's and one is indeed inferior to the other. CDMA by design has a longer range (10 mi.) compared to GSM's 3-4 mile range. By default, companies like Verizon, Alltel and US Cellular will have better coverage because they have roaming agreements with cell companies that have sites in East Bufu Montana. Most of Montana's rural network was built in the 80's and 90's by Cellular One and MT&T Cellular, not Verizon. Yes Cingu...
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EDIT: montana is Verizon.

...he asked between Verizon and Cingular. The answer between those two would be Verizon.

Interesting points to be made for GSM humpers:

If you check the glossary over there on the left

A gsm tower can push a signal up to 22 miles.

Who owns Alltel?

actually verizon doesn't claim to have the largest anything. we concede that when cingular and at&t combined that we didn't have the largest anything. we do offer the "best and most reliable network"

allstarmatt614 said:

Verizon has the biggest subscriber base that's why they always boast "the network" because their "in" network is the biggest mobile to mobile although, like its coverage, does not always work depending on who you are calling and where they are located.

T-mobile, I may be wrong, but I thought was the only company to offer service to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands at no charge. However, I didn't look to much into that.

Verizon does NOT have the biggest subscriber base.

Cingular offers service in PR.

You dont know what you are talking about. 🙂

allstarmatt614 said:
Verizon has the biggest subscriber base that's why they always boast "the network" because their "in" network is the biggest mobile to mobile although, like its coverage, does not always work depending on who you are calling and where they are located.

😳 WTF??? 😲
You kids need to put down the crack pipe!

Just came back from Carolina, puerto rico and my SPRINT sanyo 8300 had no problems. 😎

SunCom has coverage in those areas as well without roaming, LD or calls to that area.

Verizon also has coverage and considers the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico as part of the United States, so no extra charge per minute for roaming or long distance.

i had verizon and now i have cingular, my coverage is much better i have 10Mill more M2M rollover so if i go over 100 min my bill does not go 45$ over, i can go any where in the world...i can keep on going if i wanted too but cingular is the best..oh hold...ill switch back to verizon when they have 3G...oh that will be never just like they will never have GSM...but i will give it to them they r better than allele

I know sprint is no good. I have truckers in my family and i can not have a normal conversation w/my grandfather every 1-2 minutes drops the call

Correction - Cingular DOES offer the same "personal coverage check". It's called the MTI Map tool, ask any corporate store rep to show you the coverage.

BS i pull up an up to date cingular map through our sales portal on a daily basis. This map shows me tower locations, tower type(att vs cing), and coverage offered.

bm2k_83 said:
Also T-mobile has service in MT unless you dont think Billings, Great Falls, Helena, or Missoula cities are in MT.

No GSM carrier has service in Montana. You might be able to get a signal with a Cingular or T-Mobile phone in Montana (I could, when I had a Cingular phone), but this is roaming coverage only. For Cingular, T-Mobile, Verizon, or any other carrier, a native coverage map is going to look much different than the national coverage maps (which include areas where roaming agreements with other carriers are in place).

I hate to burst your bubble, but T-Mobile is not the only carrier who has a PCC map to check on the coverage for specific street addresses. Cingular has two different map tools that are set up the same way as T-Mobile's PCC tool. I used to work for T-Mobile too...just thought I would point that out. 😉

well..... now sprint also has tht, budddy!!

bm2k_83 said:
You are all nutz. Neither company can give a realiable depiction of their coverage map. T-Mobile with the Personal coverage check map (PCC) is the only current carrier that can pull up street level converage and tell you what type of service you should expect on the network. Also T-mobile has service in MT unless you dont think Billings, Great Falls, Helena, or Missoula cities are in MT.

Ummmm... cingular can pull up a street level coverage map, tell me a street and i'll tell you the coverage, two cingular has roaming agreements with t-mobile so they can use t-mobile towers as well if they don't have service in that area, cingular has 60 million customers and counting, more than anyone else...
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Verizon has great coverage but their coverage map is b.s. They show blanket coverage where there are no cell phone towers from any company. They need to be truthful and admit where they're lacking coverage. It's bad enough that a good bit of their coverage is patched together from other carriers.

u think they're bad, check out Sprint's coverage map and you'll laugh too.

Um... Cingular has the same mapping tool. It's called MTI Map Tool. It can pull up street by street information on how good your reception will be.

In all honestity, Cingular has GREAT coverage in major cities like Phoenix, LA etc. But when you get out in the boondocks all the time your going to want something like Verizon or Alltel.

Verizon does have the largest coverage area and more towers than any other company.

Also look at which provider has always had signal during natural disasters and other such things..katrina and wild fires...verizon was the ONLY company still working during these events..because of their towers and other such things.

Verizon has a series of mobile cell sites that they can set up in the event of a disaster.

They have 75,000 drivers that log 250,000 miles each QUARTER making test voice and data calls to ensure their network is the best.

They also offer a VZMAPS tool on their website. You may have to do some searching, but you'll find it.

Is that why all the katrina workers had nexte phones?????

Holy smoke! If this is true, then it's another example of how a company can lie, scheme, cheat, and deceive. (In this case, Verizon.) If they truly report service where only one var is showing on the phone, that's equivalent to saying that you have a car because you have four wheels and a carburetor.

I am still peeved that Verizon forces people to pay for services that are necessitated by the cell phone being disabled/"crippled" in its various capabilities.

-Lorna

lorna said:
Holy smoke! If this is true, then it's another example of how a company can lie, scheme, cheat, and deceive. (In this case, Verizon.) If they truly report service where only one var is showing on the phone, that's equivalent to saying that you have a car because you have four wheels and a carburetor.

What are you smoking? 🤨 That is one of the worst analogies I have ever heard. One bar means you can still make a call. One bar means there is coverage. Not to say that I think that is the best way to create a map, but come one. I expect that I can make a call in the areas that say so. Who gives a sheet whether my bar indicator is at 1 or 4. That often doesn't even directly correlate to ca...
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It's not about GSM or CDMA it holds no truth and it not how many customers that you have. Over all its the service. Does it work in all the states not just a 20 mile stretch. Cingular buys roaming agreements and in the Midwest its Sprint and Sprint sucks here. Cingular tells people that have coverage but they don't. Montana, South Dakota, Wyoming are heavily traveled areas you would know that if you got out much. I have been every where and Verizon is buy far the best they pair with the best. So stop talking about GSM and CDMA look to see how many towers are out.

That's funny. If you want to see who has the most towers then Cingular wins hands down. They have almost twice as many GSM towers as Verizon has CDMA towers 😛

thats beacuse gsm doesnt travel as far as cdma so that means verizon needs less,

ignorance 🙄

cingulars map shows future coverage mixed in with current coverage, very misleading

in response to the "one bar" comment that's because it doesn't matter if you have 1 bar or full signal the call quality doesn't suffer on a CDMA network.

Do you even know the difference between the GSM netwrok and the CDMA network?

Good Job.. I use to be w/ verizon i didnt like verizon. I take cingular calls for the insurance and customers tell me all the time that they've been w/ verizon, sprint whatever and that cingular has the best coverage and customer service! And i am not a cingular rep i just work w/ them i am a future customer

I used to think like you when I worked for Cingular, but now that I have verizon my eyes have opened. I thought it was normal to have to repeat your self multiple times on a cell phone, or ask whoever you are talking to to repeat them selves. I was wrong!

I have had 30 plus cingular phones, they all sound scratchy and drop calls for no reason. I am using one of the most basic Verizon phones and the reception and call quality is tremendous

year and a half old thread nice
ps ive had verizon and cingulars call quality is far better

Sorry....you're wrong. I worked for Cingular. They used TDMA. One step behind CDMA. and it was 4 years ago, not ten. With GSM you have to be w/in 7 to 10 airmiles of a tower to pick up a signal. With CDMA, you have to be w/in 20 airmiles. I think Cingular is a great product! They have great phones, and I was part of the DCS market(first GSM market) their clarity is GREAT if you're close to a tower, but we've come a loooong way man.....and we are kicking a** when it comes to coverage and clarity. Pull up JD Powers....or Consumer Reports......Or Elec. Monthly......

simplymarcus said:
Who cares about Montana

I do, and I live in Southern California. Knowing about Montana might be an indicator of how Cingular misses coverage in other out -of-the-way areas. It also becomes meaningful if one intends to travel to or near Montana.

Every isolated bit of information that a person receives is put onto a blank canvas and after a while that blank canvas can either be all filled in with what earlier were disparate bits of disconnected info or it can be blank because each individual bit of info was discarded.

When you see the entire canvas, what earlier seemed like individual bits of useless information forms a cohesive whole which can be informative.

Having said that...
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actually, alltel covers more of the country than any other carrier... it says so right here:

http://www.alltel.com/corporate/media/news/06/feb/n4 ... » ...

btw, i found this on phonescoop in Feb, '06...

I guess I don't really understand why it matters so much who has the largest coverage, from a consumer stand point I would base it off who works the best where I need it to. In this area Sprint is amazing and Cingular is absolutely horrendous even though on the map it says it's completely covered, but in other areas I'm sure Cingular would be a better solution.

All maps are just depictions of coverage, usually in fine print on the maps it will say this. Nobody will have perfect service everywhere the map says it will.

I think they just wanted to know between Verizon and Cingular. Actually, I think they just wanted to cause a long argument....lol

Ha Ha! I totally agree with you! The same thing goes on in Michigan. There is no one with exception to Alltel that has good coverage in Michigan other than Verizon. Even then if you have Alltel your calls are dropped 50% of the time up here. It is horrible. I have been to 32 states in the past 3 months and have not had a problem with Verizon at all. Maybe at the Grand Canyon, but it is a mile and a half hole in the ground! LOL. Go Verizon!

The reason that your calls are dropping in Michigan is that per the Roaming agreement signed between Verizon and Alltel, Alltels customers have first priority to call space on the network. Being a Verizon customer if you are on a call and an Alltel customer needs your call space to place a call you will get dropped. This is also the reason you probably get alot of "all circuts busy" errors in Northern Michigan. This however does not reciprocate to Alltel when they make use of Verizons network in other states.

😈 😈
I sell them all... and in reality who cares who has the largest coverage area because coverage is only expanding in podunk rural communities anyway. lets talk overall performance and T-mobile wins hands down.... read JD power & Assoc.

I am so sorry to have to tell you this but in most states in the U.S. T=Mobile is piggybacking on the back of the Cingular network. Sure about 4 years ago that might have been true but we have turned tdma into gsm and sold part of our gsm 1900 mghz to t-mobile. We still retain the ATT and our network nearly everywhere in the country.

Still not saying that in MT Verizon is not working better. Probably NS, SD, ID, and WY but we are working on it.

[quote]read JD power & Assoc.[/quote]

You read it. T mobile has the worst voice coverage ever.

Read Consumer Reports they don't agree with you or JD Power....

When it comes down to it - it depends on where you live & where you travel. There's cell phones and they use airwaves, and NO ONE is 100%. Where we live Cingular is better in coverage than Verizon - where my sister lives not four hours away, Verizon is better than Cingular. It all has to do with where "they" think the most popular areas are & then up goes their cell tower.

Neither if you are talking about network size. Alltel Wireless has the largest network coverage. Oh and FYI to all of you, where ever Verizon Wireless has coverage, Alltel has it and vice-a-verse-a. If you are talking about subcribers, then it is Cingular by far!

VERIZON!!! Can you hear me now?

sprint

Cheerfully conceded that Montana remains the undisputed domain of CDMA (and perhaps the largest surviving concentration of analog carriers). Cingular does not actually hold any licenses to deliver service in Montana, and any coverage available in the state is going to be by virtue of local roaming partners - little regional outfits who probably don't have GSM deployed everywhere on their networks as of yet.

As to wether or not large numbers of California customers will desert Cingular for Verizon by virtue of Montana remains debateable. Most California customers do the vast majority of their usage in California itself, and I get no shortage of customer testimonials that in the major markets, Cingular provides superior service. The other d...
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frankiewawa said:

moron... verizon > cingular with coverage. cingular only reason they have more people is because they bought ATT. otherwise... verizon owns. and for every person that leaves verizon, 4 come on. nice lil fact..

You could have left the "Moron" out of your message. The other part was what matters and what leads the conversation on.

Some people knew about Cingular vs Verizon coverage in 2004. Some learned it in January '05. Some don't know it now but will find out tomorrow. So, does this make all of them morons until that point in time in which they learn it? Are you a moron about the things that you don't yet know?

-Lorna

I totally agree. I just got done with a 32 state cross-country trip with a friend that had another carrier other than Verizon. The trip ended up being one big mess because the person that did not have Verizon could not get ahold of me (Verizon User) because they had no reception anywhere. We got down to Arizona and quickly got another phone with Verizon. The best part....NO ROAMING...and GREAT COVERAGE!

if you're referring to customer base, yes, cingular is the largest. as far as coverage area, it's most difinately verizon. cingular lacks quite a bit on the west coast

Verizon includes analog in its network maps usually. If you look at the Verizon data map or where all the features work (wireless internet, MMS, SMS); this is there digital coverage area, leaves something to be desired.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorCo ... »

The link above is the coverage locator and look at the enhanced services map, really sad

Cingular on the other hand only shows their all digital coverage.

http://onlinestoree.cingular.com/html/Maps/nation_GS ... »

I hope that explain things a bit.

T-mobile and spirit include anywhere in the city or interstates.

-Z

If you're going to base your info off that type access, then the largest coverage area for any carrier is ALLTEL. They allow mobile-to-mobile from anywhere in your home calling area (whether total freedon, national freedom, or greater freedom coverage areas), as well as any axess (their internet features) from the same area, as well as their push-to-talk features! In other words, their entire feature selection is available from their entire coverage map!

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"

But you forget to mention that their "entire coverage map" includes all of their "partners". This means that when you look at a nationwide map for Alltel, you're looking at where they anticipate that you would be able to roam using any other company's network as well. If they showed you a nationwide map that only showed the acutal Alltel towers, then they would be severely lacking. Also - if you look at the fine print, you'll see that if you continually use the majority of your minutes on another carrier's network, then Alltel can (understandably so) discontinue your service (as it will be costing them way too much $). So you do actually need to be living/working in an area where Alltel towers exist.

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Well, the other is that you have to be in their POP (point of presence) to even have the service offered. That's why you can't get their coverage in 17 states, but you can get reliable service coverage in all 50 of them. Not trying to start a flame war, just pointing out small details.

Just read my reply to the original comment and you'll understand the whole thing!

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"

I'm not starting a flame war over this. 😉
I see your point. I think our posts actually support one another. 🙂

You can't compare Verizon's national enhanced areas to their America's Choice coverage maps. Verizon still has the best overall coverage with the fewest dropped calls. Yes, cingular has the largest customer base for the time being. I do, however, see Verizon becoming #1 again in overall customers over the next year. Now that we introduced new rate plans that offer more minutes, no roaming, and cheaper share plans. Verizon wants the #1 position back. 🙂

SellFone

I do, however, see Verizon becoming #1 again in overall customers over the next year. Now that we introduced new rate plans that offer more minutes, no roaming, and cheaper share plans. Verizon wants the #1 position back. 🙂

SellFone

You're right about Verizon offering the largest coverage area when you factor in their analog areas...but their digital coverage is actually smaller than Cingular's. Also, if Cingular keeps adding subs at the rate they did last quarter...it could be a while before Verizon regains the top spot...if they ever do.

its a tie- I work for virizon but I used to have cingular- I have no problems with either of them.

Besides Cingular doesnt deserve any of this.
ATT did the work Cingular took the credit.

OK, that answer was a bit loaded.

"Now that WE"?

I had run stores for a national company for the past decade and current they sell both Cingular and Verizon (exclusively but in separate parts of the country). Verizon has better coverage than Cingular is certain parts of the country, while Cingular is better in others. In most of Texas for example, Cingular dominates (where Verizon is mainly PCS). In most of CA (where Cingular only first deployed services as Pacific Bell Wireless in 199😎 Verizon dominates. Cingular is now using the AT&T Network (cellular) they purchased which has substantially better coverage than their old network (PCS, they sold that one to T-Mobile). Cingular is also improving in NY as they are now using the AT...
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This post says it all. I totally agree with it.

At last, an intellegent response! Thank you Texaswireless!

I take "coverage" to mean, "Where will my phone work?" If you use that definition it depends on the system and the PHONE.

I work for SunCom and carry a GSM Nokia 6820. It gets excellent GSM service; but not as good as the Nokia 3620...NO GSM PHONE GETS THE RECEPTION OF A NOKIA 3620....NONE.

Having said that, my "coverage" is better with the analog phone in my Land Rover, which is activated with Alltel. Someone had the vehicle before me and boosted it from 3 1/2 watts to 5 watts. It has a 8 db gain roof mounted antenna. There is no such thing as "no service" with this unit. My farm is just off the Blue Ridge Parkway in NC; my Nokia is just a paperweight there. My Land Rover works anywhere.

but still where you live is where you live
if you live on the east coast and in the plains alltel is the best bar none

Alltel is number 1! ......... someday

Oh and dont forget GSM sounds like crap.
Talk on an Alltel/Verizon phone and its stable clear and efficent
Talk on a CIngular/Tmobile phone and its choppy and has an echo

Also after the Western Wireless purchase is finished Alltel will have the largest coverage area in terms of Miles beating out even Verizon they just do not have their own coverage in as many major markets so you do not think of them.

But isnt Alltel a regional carrier that isnt even available nationwide?

I know if you have alltel you can get a signal and use your service nationwide, but arent there plenty of places that dont offer Alltel service?

Alltel roams off of Verizon towers and vice versa for nationwide coverage. They do offer nationwide plans.

Can only speak to issue of coverage in South Carolina. Alltel provides the best and most reliable service for use in ALL of South Carolina. A large number of state government agencies that must depend on a carrier to provide critical service ( forest fire, law enforcement and public service) have either switched to or have been using Alltel service. Having conducted tests throughout the state one agency is sure Alltel provides the most reliable and AVAILABLE service. I mean in parts of the state OTHER than the Interstate highway system.

Wonld not consider but one other carrier (Verizon). But their inflexiblilty of not really offering competitive pricing and the option through Alltel to have nights start at 7:00PM instead of 9:00PM causes...
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can't get alltel in indianapolis or surrounding areas. just wanted to give someone a heads up. 😁

I a wondering about the coverage Sprint will have after it merges with Nextel. Any ideas? Will it equal Cingular? Verizon? -Lorna

No

And you know this how? 🙄

There won't be any over night change, as nextel uses IDEN and sprint uses CDMA.

No one will ever have the quality sevice that Cingular has, nor will they have the coverage area. Finally, no one will have the data coverage that Cingular has

That is actually incorrect somewhat. what alot of u r missing is this. All the major cellular companies have some kind agreement with another. For example take a look at a Cingular map for the state of Michigan. It show s that it has all this great coverage but in actuality it does not. Once past Saginaw going north of Detroit and past Grand Rapids going West of Detroit the actual Cingular coverage ends and they use another GSM carrier. What Verizon shows on there coverage maps if you have seen the brochures is an all red area and another map is orange spotty coverage...the orange spotty coverage is not the only place Verizon has service it's just where they own there new enhanced service towers EVDO etc. The combination of Verizon, Al...
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Well said. Who cares if your network is the largest or best when you cant make a call from your own living room. 😁

the enhanced area of verizon shows the 1x areas that they personaly own and operate. The cingular map shows roaming partners, not what cingular owns by itself. And gsm is all digital but not everywhere on the map cingualr shows includes an area where gprs is available.

How do you figure Cingular has the largest coverage area? If anything they are on par with Verizon.

Darling, its 2007...you are 2 years behind.

According to the latest infomration on each carriers site Sprint ranks #1 in coverage.

Sprint covers 295 Million people
Cingular covers 270 Million
T-Mobile covers 265 Million
Verizon covers 255 Million

Also coverage and subscriber base are totally different..
Cingular(at&t) has 61 Million Subscribers
Verizon Wireless has 59.1 Million
Sprint has 53.1 Million
T-Mobile has 25 Million
(According to year end reports for 2006)

All the information can be found and compared side by side on the left panel of www.drakoswr.tk

POP coverage is also different than physical coverage. There are many many ways for each carrier to play word games.

🙂 Don't get me wrong wri, I do agree with your point. People do need to select the coverage and service options that best suit their needs on an individual basis. My wife and I had Cingular for 6 years and are still finishing out the remainder of our last contract, but, in our area, Verizon definitely has the edge in coverage...even after the ATT acquisition and this is pretty much true across the board. Cingular is still VERY good. The rest don't do well here...in fact, Sprint doesn't even pick up in half the city. Nonetheless, your point is still quite valid.

one day it will all be one company anyways, lol

cing-rizon-tel

VERIZON WIRELESS HAS THE LARGEST VOICE CALLING NETWORK IN THE US!! HANDS DOWN! TO ALL WHO THINKS VERIZON IS ALL ANALOG CHECK THE MAP AGAIN! THE RED AREA IS ALL DIGITAL AREA, BUT WITH VERZION YOU ALSO HAVE ANALOG AVALABILITY WHICH MEANS WHEN YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE YOU HAVE ANALOG OPTION!! THE PINK AREA OF VERIZON MAP IS ANALOG RATE AREA!!! THE GOLD MAP IS VERIZONS DIGITAL COVERAGE AREA AND WHERE ALL DIGITAL ENHANCED FEATURES ARE GURANTEED TO WORK! THEY GENERALLY WORK IN THE ALL RED AREA THOUGH I HAVE GOOD LUCK WITH IT! VERIZON ALSO HAS EVDO TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS EVOLUTION DATA OPTIMIZED WHICH IS THE FASTEST WIDE AREA BROADBAND TECHNOLOGY AVALIABLE! ALSO AT THE RATE THEY ARE BUYING SPECTRUM AND NETWORK ASSETS UP ITS NOT GONNA BE...
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take your caps off. no need to shout. we can read.

Okay virizon matt I work for them too-


you only get analog service with a tri mode phone- which narrows down your options- vzw does have very good coverage- I just think my phone sucks... but oh ye well-


I still say its a tie- cingular is very good, vzw is also very good.

not sure if i'm just misunderstanding you lara, but tri-mode phones pick up on 800mhz DIGITAL 1900mhz DIGITAL, AND 800mhz analog as a back-up source (hence, TRI-mode). the way you stated your remark leads me to believe you are somehow under the impression that you can only receive analog signals with a tri-mode phone (which is incorrect). pardon me, though, if i misunderstood your statement. 🙂

Restate that again...

I have been looking at Verizon, and it *LOOKS* like if I want to be able to take advantage of the Analog converage area, I need a Dual Band/TRI Mode phone...

I have been a loyal Samsung Phone user, and it looks like all the Samsung (Camera Phones) are Digital Only...

how is that not true mr.knowitall?

How about you do some research on the FCC website, www.fcc.gov. Look up who has the most licenses and pops covered.

I am not saying Verizon or Cingular is better, but it definately has to do with where you travel and where you live. If you want to read my earlier reply it gives a more specific answer.

That's a lie and that is why you are getting sued and that add no longer runs. In the long run cingular are crooks who force their customers to commit instead of giving them the option to leave as well. FCC abd BBB are going to have a field day with Cingular. I have a cingular store across the street from my store and when I check in on them they are playnig Wiffle ball in the showroom cause noone goes in there. The coverage map shows that there is full digital service in my state and the 2 neighboring states. there must be alot of weather and radio wave interferances cause noone seems to be able to make a call with a cingular phone unless they live in big city areas in these states. I alone do 4-10 ports a week from cingular and T-Moble and...
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There isnt even a Cingular/AT&T store in the state i live in. 🤣 That at least counts for something.

theres not a verizon store where i live 🤨 i fail to see your point..like everyone with half a clue has said..verizon will work in some areas and cingular will work in others..go with whats in your area..that will probably get you the best service for your needs..if both are in your area..get both use the trial periods and figure it out..post that if you feel the need. 😉

Yeah, but what's better, CDMA or GSM? 🙄

They both are great technologies I think it is about even.

Jesus, I was kidding. The coverage/CDMA vs. GSM arguments are retarded.

I know

Apparently the Secret Service thinks CDMA is better.... since that's their choice and it provides the most security??

Where did you get that the secret service thinks CDMA is better? I know someone in the SS and they carry a nextel for work, there was also the SS agent that was hacked into with T-Mobile service on a sidekick. Is there a report out there saying CDMA is preferred by them?

One of Sprints largest accounts in the United States Government... they alone could probably keep the business side of Sprint afloat... almost all armed forces... because they have a program that attached toll free numbers to cell phones...and also provide phones for spouses as long as they are in coverage areas...

You must work for the CIA with all that misinformation you are spreading hehe.

Since there's alot of talk of Cingular and Verizon. How does T-Mobile fit in?

original thread poster here-

i have tmo. the reason i started the thread is because i hate t-mobile because of coverage when i travel. i travel everywhere, including small towns. i never have service and if i do, it is very poor. however, i live in atlanta mainly, so that might count for something...

So if the coverage in your area is that bad, are you planning on switching carriers? My experience with T-Mo was not good at the beginning. I had signed on in Dec. 2004. My area was out for the first two days I had the service. It happened again about two months ago. It's okay now. Every now and then when I talk, there's some kind of break up noise. I have up to the middle of December to decide whether to keep T-Mo or change carriers.

yup, its the reason i started the thread

I agree to that! You and every consumer have the right to complain. 😡

Don't soil your panties so fast. The test above was just over 3Mbps in a non congested market trial. If you read the post above the 14.4Mbps is possible in theory once faster devices are launched. Don't bet on that happening by the end of 2006, America is still slow in adopting 3G technology.

I have two laptops with EV DO Rev O cards in them and have seen Data speed up to 3.5 Mbps with compression software currently on the Chicago VZW network. In 2006 VZW will start trialing EV DO Rev A which will be faster that the current EV DO and will offer VOIP.

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I have tried all carriers as well! Verizon Wireless and Alltell do have the best sound quality and less dropped calls of any carrier. GSM does suck!! The sound is horrible and drops calls like thats what your paying for. If all cingular's customers would just try a cdma handset (not sprint) (vzw alltel) they would be shocked. I have a friend on cingular that lives in Charlotte NC and drops calls almost every time i talk to her. Last week when i went down and visited i asked her and her boyfriend to try my phone out around Charlotte for the day and well i guess you could say we went to the VZW store 3 hours later and ported both numbers over!!! I loved it because I have told them for two years how bad their phone service sucks, and it ...
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maybe CDMA is better at the moment in some areas, but at some point the technology will bite them in the butt. GSM is a superior network, but is currently lacking the coverage and tower support that is needed for the large GSM customer base. eventually, wireless providers will have two choices: migrate to gsm, or be left in the dust. CDMA just does not compare to GSM, both in data capabilites, wireless speed, variant frequency use, and general call quality capabilites. this is why GSM has been used everywhere else in the world since 1994.

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The new CDMA Europe!!

SkillciaX said:
The truth of the matter is that Cingular is America's #1 company with ALL DIGITAL coverage (GSM) Verizon is composed of digital and Analog coverage. by 2006 Anolog towers will be gone and everything will convert over to GSM because the rest of the world uses GSM technology.

Aside of that with Sprints PCS network and roaming network combined have the largest US coverage of any carrier. They also use digital and analog towers similar to Verizon.

T-Mobile with less coverage is the only company that provides a tool on-line where you can check the coverage where you live down to the street u live on and how good the coverage is. and they cover 252 million ppl. 😉

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cingular has the largest all over coverage in the sense that they have the largest calling AND data coverage, where the others might just have a generally large calling area.

fired? lmao. All my co-workers and managers have been saying that Analag is going to start depleting by 2006, because it is not as good as signal as digital. I've been told by more ppl than just my co-workers about this.

I work at a phone store. I can't spread false information to customers... If u love analog so much then good for u, cause sooner or later it's not going to be around.

Other companies have on-line tools to determine coverage, but T-Mobile is the only one with an accurate Satellite signal coverage map.

in regards to Analog being Phased Out... Yes this is true. The reason for this is despite Analog carrying a stronger signal, you can only hold one call and switcing between towers is a pain. Most of the phones that are being made now are will no longer be made tri-mode for that simple fact. The technology is outdated and digital networks are not only faster, more reliable but also more cost effective. Not just to cellular providers but cell phone manufacturers as well. 😎

Gone by '06? Keep relaying that false information to customers. It's 2007 and analog signal still exists and Tri-Mode phones are still being produced. In the past 6 months, the Verizon lineup has expanded to include the W315 and 325i from Motorola, VX3400 and 3450 and 5300 from LG and the a870 from Samsung. All are tri-mode, so they can pick up the analog signal that STILL exists. It is of poorer quality and tends to eat battery more quickly as well as difficulty moving between towers. You'll sometimes hear a "click". Hope nobody digs up where you work and secret shops you so you spit out some of this. The lawsuit will look real nice. Hope you're with a direct store 🙂

farthead said:

SkillciaX said:
The truth of the matter is that Cingular is America's #1 company with ALL DIGITAL coverage (GSM) Verizon is composed of digital and Analog coverage. by 2006 Anolog towers will be gone and everything will convert over to GSM because the rest of the world uses GSM technology.

Aside of that with Sprints PCS network and roaming network combined have the largest US coverage of any carrier. They also use digital and analog towers similar to Verizon.

T-Mobile with less coverage is the only company that provides a tool on-line where you can check the coverage where you live down to the street u live on and how good the coverage is. and they cover 252 million ppl. 😉

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The rest of the world is not just GSM. More and more are going to CDMA. There is over 36 countries on CDMA now!

That has not been my experience on cingular.

Well put...this needs to be posted in all the carriers forums. I admnit ive joined in on a few discussions...flame wars. i realized, more than anything.... we wind up making our current providers look like asses in the short of it.

TeoMan77 said:
yanno, i just think it's pretty funny that everyone goes by what thier websites state. People should really read Consumer Reports more often....

Oh yeah, now there's an "unbiased" and "reliable" group 🤣

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No need to ask you for a quarter. I have a prepaid account that I keep for emergency only.

This is a rumor because people have speculated about it, just like they speculate whether or not Britney Spears' boobs are real or fake.

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My neighbor has the most reliable car ever! It's parked on cinder blocks in his back yard and I've never seen it break down once in the 10 years I've never seen it run...

what is the name of the independant research company that said cingy has the least dropped calls, the commercial never says it not even in the small print at the bottom of the screen and most reps don't even know who it is(i do)
how creditable can it be when even cingy won't sy who it is

haha 😁 kountryjentleman. you sir, are an ass. you knew people would argue and b*tch about this. why ask that question to a bunch of phone nerds?

I say try different companies and see what suits you better. plus i dont care if i have one bar or full. as long as i can listen to jimmy page on my phone. SWEET~!

I wont to say Verizon we should do a field test have everyone with different carriers walk around and map it out 😉

whhops meant to say *want

I agree. There are only two places in my area (that I know of) that Verizon doesn't work and USCC does. And coincedentaly, Alltel doesn't work in those same two areas. I think it's an A vs B setting, issue, not a carrier or signal issue.

verizon acually pays people to drive all over the united states, with all types of phones and equipment in the trucks, they put them on test calls to test the service area, when a call gets dropped the computer transmits them back to headquarters so they can work on getting better service everywhere...just some knowledge i feel you would be interested in knowing

good point, you have to talk about quality of coverage too....so tell sprint to go work on that.....

So... Sprint does work very well in all areas (that they have towers at). I think most cell phone carriers could say that.

correct, but as i said, it was very seldom
i never understood the "phone wars" every company will never have service in every place and people have to understand that and get the best service for there needs. i have some friends that live in the country with centennial service and a customer came in that also lived in that area. I was honest with them and told them not to get our service if they spend the majority of their time there because centennial has alot better service in that area than sprint does.believe me i know, i bring my phone there and have no bars cause the closest sprint tower is 15 miles away.

I agree completely. I usually recommend people ask their neighbors what they're using if they want to find a good local cell service.