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Everywhere but Sprint! Any new smartphones coming to Sprint?
Every carrier seems to be up on the new technology, but sprint seems to be left in the dust. I keep hearing about new stuff for Verizon, Cingular, and the new iphone, but is Sprint gonna catch up with any new smartphones?
I will need a smartphone by July, and I don't want to have to pay to cancel with Sprint so I can grab the iphone with Cingular.
Can anyone give me some heads-up?
I will need a smartphone by July, and I don't want to have to pay to cancel with Sprint so I can grab the iphone with Cingular.
Can anyone give me some heads-up?
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Since their 4G technology is only going to give them speeds of 4Mbs the smartphone producers are going with the carriers who can send data faster.
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You really could not be more wrong. Cingular's (ATT) best data technology is HSDPA which has a download speed of 3.6 mbs, which is only accessible on few phones. Most of their phones use EDGE or HSDPA 1.8 at best. Second, Verizon uses EVDO rev. 0 and A which Sprint already utilizes. So when you say only 4mbs you are partially correct because Sprint will soon be the only carrier with those download speeds.
Sprint has limited smatphones is true but it has nothing to do with network capacity and more to do with poor management which reflects on retention rates and membership.
Before I get ripped for this, it is true that in the near future HDSPA and other technologies used on GSM networks will grow to higher download speeds surpassi...
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Sprint has limited smatphones is true but it has nothing to do with network capacity and more to do with poor management which reflects on retention rates and membership.
Before I get ripped for this, it is true that in the near future HDSPA and other technologies used on GSM networks will grow to higher download speeds surpassi...
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but not for wimax. By the time it's deployed it will be around twice as slow as it's competitors.
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If you don't know what you're talking about, then I'm sure I'd sound very clueless.
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Wrong again, WIMAX will probably be deployed just before Rev B, which is scheduled for the end of 2007. Rev B will have download speeds somewhere around 15 mbs. I am sure that HDSPA will upgrade to be competitive, but the coverage of HDSPA in the United States in comparision to EVDO is really a joke.
It is no knock on GSM technology but the data coverage here in the U.S is dwarfed by CDMA carriers. I wish this was not true because GSM is more adaptible and it is the international standard, not to mention that the GSM carriers in the U.S or much more customer friendly.
It is no knock on GSM technology but the data coverage here in the U.S is dwarfed by CDMA carriers. I wish this was not true because GSM is more adaptible and it is the international standard, not to mention that the GSM carriers in the U.S or much more customer friendly.
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So what you're saying is that wimax will be at least three times slower than EVDO Rev B. I said it was going to twice as slow, so I guess I was wrong on that.
It's still going to be ridiculously slower.
It's still going to be ridiculously slower.
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Wimax will still be a faster solution than any GSM carrier offers for data. Also wimaxs range will cover even more customers than HSDPA and maybe even EVDO in a fairly short period of time.
And yes, when Rev B is released it will make everything look slow.
And yes, when Rev B is released it will make everything look slow.
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Now that it's been brought up, I disagree that it will be better than GSM alternatives. HSDPA will by at 7.2 around the release of WiMAX. That's faster than 4. They already have the means to upgrade that to 27 Mbs with HSPA+, but that will no doubt be a ways off.
The coverage area of WiMAX could become larger, but they have to deploy it first. The real benefit for them using WiMAX is this gives them an "in" as a home ISP, like AT&T and Verizon are doing through their affiliates. I'm also curious about the security of WiMAX. WiFi is not a secure connection. Will that be addressed with WiMAX?
My first comment about them not getting PDAs because of their crappy 4G was (in my opinion) an obvious knock at just how crappy their 4G is ...
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The coverage area of WiMAX could become larger, but they have to deploy it first. The real benefit for them using WiMAX is this gives them an "in" as a home ISP, like AT&T and Verizon are doing through their affiliates. I'm also curious about the security of WiMAX. WiFi is not a secure connection. Will that be addressed with WiMAX?
My first comment about them not getting PDAs because of their crappy 4G was (in my opinion) an obvious knock at just how crappy their 4G is ...
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Again, as I have said before HSDPA and EVDO/Wimax will always be competitvie with each other for highest data speeds. CDMA technologies have an edge in data simply because of coverage.
Also im not quite sure on the accuracy of your timeline for the release of 7.2 but im sure that if it was to be released at the same time, we would only have to wait a quarter until Rev B blows it out of the water.
Also im not quite sure on the accuracy of your timeline for the release of 7.2 but im sure that if it was to be released at the same time, we would only have to wait a quarter until Rev B blows it out of the water.
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7.2 was announced to be launched by the end of this year. Who knows what part of 4th quarter or if it will be delayed though.
I agree that if Rev B hits 15, that's awesome. It's going to make WiMAX look even worse, and that was my whole dig.
I agree that if Rev B hits 15, that's awesome. It's going to make WiMAX look even worse, and that was my whole dig.
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Im uneasy about how good wimax would be myself. It sounds like it could be something great but i could see it sucking.
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WiMAX will be launched with the 4 Mbps speed, however the WiMAX technology is capable of MUCH faster. In a lab environment WiMAX has shown speeds as high as 1 GBs. That's right ONE GIG A SECOND. HSDPA will NEVER be able to touch those speeds. Do your research before opening your trap!!! (Just a little suggestion so you look like less of a fool in the future...)
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actually they said it would have an average of 2 - 4 Mbs. We've also been able to teleport molecules using light in lab tests. Do you see that happening anywhere in the real world?
When did I ever bring up HSDPA anywhere anyway? I said their 4G speeds are going to suck. You guys really need to pay better attention to what's going on around you.
When did I ever bring up HSDPA anywhere anyway? I said their 4G speeds are going to suck. You guys really need to pay better attention to what's going on around you.
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How does 4G suck? Nothing is faster and I believe you said smartphone manufacturers wanted to make phones on the fastest data networks and the only other fast one is HSDPA, what else could you have been talking about?
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Read my other post.
Sprints 4G is WiMAX. That doesn't include EVDO nor HSDPA. You just said yourself that Rev B will be faster. HSDPA will be faster than WiMAX too.
Sprints 4G is WiMAX. That doesn't include EVDO nor HSDPA. You just said yourself that Rev B will be faster. HSDPA will be faster than WiMAX too.
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Don't bother arguing with Ralph, he is an obvious GSM fan boy who will not agree with you no matter how much evidence you provide.
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ralph_on_me said:
actually they said it would have an average of 2 - 4 Mbs. We've also been able to teleport molecules using light in lab tests. Do you see that happening anywhere in the real world?
When did I ever bring up HSDPA anywhere anyway? I said their 4G speeds are going to suck. You guys really need to pay better attention to what's going on around you.
Let's just say that in a real world environment we can achieve HALF the speed we can achieve in the lab, we are still talking about 50 Mbps. My lab example was just to let you know of the capabilities of the technology, I don't see 1 GBps being a reality for at least another year or two... But upgrading WiMAX networks is just as easy as ...
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I know upgrading is easy. Building the initial sites is the long and expensive part. Everything everywhere keeps getting faster because we keep finding better ways to do things. Someone will turn up WiMAX, EVDO will get another tune up, and so will HSPA. They'll all be faster and faster years down the road.
4Mbs sucks in comparison to ALL of it's competitors. I think they have good reason for going this route, but it's still going to leave them as the SLOWER data operator. My company also sells Sprint, so we get into these little pushy fights for fun all the time. You guys should lighten up.
I'm going home for a few beers.
4Mbs sucks in comparison to ALL of it's competitors. I think they have good reason for going this route, but it's still going to leave them as the SLOWER data operator. My company also sells Sprint, so we get into these little pushy fights for fun all the time. You guys should lighten up.
I'm going home for a few beers.
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Well said! But even with a launch at 4mbs it is still the fastest data speed available. Also, although 1GB per second is impressive I do not see that being touched soon nationally.
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Sprint will be getting their own treo the 755p in mid May hang around lots of interesting phones are coming in the next couple months
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I wouldnt just switch carriers because of a phone. the iphone is nice,but its nothing new,its just everything out now put into one phone. the phone you have is only as good as the network behind it.
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Official target date for Treo 755 is May 14, also have the new(6700) in the 6800 sometime in the same month
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