Slow G1
My G1 is running apps very slow. Am I running too many apps? Any help will be appreciated.
The phone part is perfect.
The phone part is perfect.
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Normally with the G1 that's the problem, taskiller app is usually recommended.
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Perhaps, but more likely it is the apps that are running in the background.
Android is designed as such that you don't want to use a task killer as much as possible, since it will actually slow the phone down.
What you want to do, if you do get a task killer, is set it so you only kill media and graphics rich programs, like youtube player, video player, and browser.
But more than likely what is really slowing you down is that your dalvik cache is filling up, so even if you close stuff, you won't see much difference.
Do a reboot once a week, or more often even, this will help more than a task killer. Also, go to settings, apps, app managemet, menu, select all, then clear the cache of some of the stuff, like youtube, browser, game...
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Android is designed as such that you don't want to use a task killer as much as possible, since it will actually slow the phone down.
What you want to do, if you do get a task killer, is set it so you only kill media and graphics rich programs, like youtube player, video player, and browser.
But more than likely what is really slowing you down is that your dalvik cache is filling up, so even if you close stuff, you won't see much difference.
Do a reboot once a week, or more often even, this will help more than a task killer. Also, go to settings, apps, app managemet, menu, select all, then clear the cache of some of the stuff, like youtube, browser, game...
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I went to settings and did as you suggested. It does appear to work faster. Thank you!
I have an 8 gig sd card and I thought that should be sufficient. Should I delete some of the programs that I have downloaded? I don't know if they are using any "computing power" just sitting there. I do run Pandora quite a bit.
Thanks,
I have an 8 gig sd card and I thought that should be sufficient. Should I delete some of the programs that I have downloaded? I don't know if they are using any "computing power" just sitting there. I do run Pandora quite a bit.
Thanks,
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Unless you have apps to SD, aka a2sd, those programs are stored on the phone itself. While having lots of apps won't really slow anything down, they don't help, and do reduce the amount of memory available for for some aspects of the OS.
My personal rule is that I delete any app I don't find myself using.
My personal rule is that I delete any app I don't find myself using.
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I don't yet own an Android phone. Would you explain what 2sd is? Does it enable storing of apps on a microsd card? And if so, does storing apps on the memory card make the OS itself run faster?
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A2SD, or Apps to SD, is the storing of apps on the SD card. It is only available to people with rooted phones, and for the most part, custom ROMs.
Google is actively working on making this part of the core Android OS so all users can take advantage, and it should be out in the near future according to those in the know... Google has released their 'alpha' version to some developers, and they reported it worked very well, efficiently, and seemed to get the protection part done right(that is the big issue, how do they protect paid for apps from being stolen).
What Android device are you looking at?
Google is actively working on making this part of the core Android OS so all users can take advantage, and it should be out in the near future according to those in the know... Google has released their 'alpha' version to some developers, and they reported it worked very well, efficiently, and seemed to get the protection part done right(that is the big issue, how do they protect paid for apps from being stolen).
What Android device are you looking at?
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I think I remember reading that Windows 7 phones will be able to do this out of the box as well
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Being able to store apps on a memoey card is something that really should be standard. Because smartphones never have enough on board memory, besides the OS probably runs smoother if theres more on board memory available.
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Not really, actually... since we are talking about ROM, it has no effect on speed to fill it up. If it was RAM, or an unpartioned memory, then it would matter.
The fastest access will be to apps stored on the local hard disk, aka ROM. The SD card will be limited by the cards read/write speeds, as well the SD card reader/drive.
The only reason it isn't standard issue on Android, and what not, is because of the concerns over pay to play apps being stolen. They have the software solution worked out, it is just a matter of testing to make sure it is ready atm.
The fastest access will be to apps stored on the local hard disk, aka ROM. The SD card will be limited by the cards read/write speeds, as well the SD card reader/drive.
The only reason it isn't standard issue on Android, and what not, is because of the concerns over pay to play apps being stolen. They have the software solution worked out, it is just a matter of testing to make sure it is ready atm.
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Well doesn't the 1GHZ snapdragon processor help read apps off the memory card faster also?
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Yes and no... it allows for a higher potential read speed. But if you have a class2 SDHC card, you are not going to get close to the hardware potential of a 1ghz processor... plus, the other hardware limiting factor is the SD card slot itself and it's design... I want to say it can handle up to a class8 SDHC card, after that it doesn't matter since the hardware itself isn't fast enough to keep up.
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Not sure. I'n with ATT, and their getting 5 Android smartphones the 1H of this yr. Definetly a no-go for that retarded arse looking Backflip. There is a rumor that the SE X10 is coming to ATT, it has a beautiful 4in screen.
But being able to store apps to a memory card is important to me. I'd rather the internal memory be used for the OS.
I've got a Nokia N95 that I' very happy with, that I can even tether using wifi. So who knows, maybe I'll just wait and see what else comes out.
Supposedly ATT is spending $18-$19bln on the 3G network this year, so hopefully things will be a bit snappier.
But being able to store apps to a memory card is important to me. I'd rather the internal memory be used for the OS.
I've got a Nokia N95 that I' very happy with, that I can even tether using wifi. So who knows, maybe I'll just wait and see what else comes out.
Supposedly ATT is spending $18-$19bln on the 3G network this year, so hopefully things will be a bit snappier.
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Apps to SD will be a part of Android in the near future. I would stick with HTC devices, personally... Moto is alright, but lacks the same fit and finish. The Sony looks damn sweet, and will have a good development following... I would either get the SE x10, or wait for the Desire (Nexus One with the HTC SenseUI, and a few other tweaks)...
The internal memory is going to the OS... you have about 250mb's of free memory for apps on a Nexus One, which is a lot! My largest app is 7mb's, and most are around 500k... so that is as many as 500 apps I could have, but more realistically about 100 apps... that is a lot! Nobody is going to d/l and use that many apps.
Still, the apps to SD would be nice so larger apps could be built, and is a ...
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The internal memory is going to the OS... you have about 250mb's of free memory for apps on a Nexus One, which is a lot! My largest app is 7mb's, and most are around 500k... so that is as many as 500 apps I could have, but more realistically about 100 apps... that is a lot! Nobody is going to d/l and use that many apps.
Still, the apps to SD would be nice so larger apps could be built, and is a ...
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I read over @ Engadget that Motorola screens do multitouch better than HTC. Somebody tested a Droid and I think a N1. Thumbs on the corners of each device and the Droid followed better. SensuUI isn't really that important to me, cause if a smartphone has an overlay I'm afraid it would take longer to update to a newer version of Android.
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It would take longer for OS updates, but you can always root and flash custom ROMs. HTC has a much better community of developers, check out xda-developers.com to see what I mean.
Anyways, that engadget video is bogus for the most part. Neither device has "true" multi-touch, in the iPhone sense... Apple has a patent on the only viable way to do true multi-touch in a mobile device with a capacitive screen. There are a couple work around ways, but ATM they take too much CPU for it to work well enough on a mobile platform. The iPhone patent is being disputed, and was not granted outside the US, because it is a bogus patent claim... essentially they patented something that can't be patented, but the US patent office sucks with technology ...
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Anyways, that engadget video is bogus for the most part. Neither device has "true" multi-touch, in the iPhone sense... Apple has a patent on the only viable way to do true multi-touch in a mobile device with a capacitive screen. There are a couple work around ways, but ATM they take too much CPU for it to work well enough on a mobile platform. The iPhone patent is being disputed, and was not granted outside the US, because it is a bogus patent claim... essentially they patented something that can't be patented, but the US patent office sucks with technology ...
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Are you using the N1 on ATT? If so how did the mms/internet settings for Atts network work out? was it simple and easy?
Also, I have a few touchscreen ?'s for you. I don't currently own a touchscrren phone. Right now I'm eating bbq chips, would you be comfortable mashing away on your touchscreen N1 with "patato chip fingers"? Or what about when it rains, are you comfortable answering the phone or performing functions on your touchscreen N1 in the rain?
Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting the N1 with ATT 3G.
Also, I have a few touchscreen ?'s for you. I don't currently own a touchscrren phone. Right now I'm eating bbq chips, would you be comfortable mashing away on your touchscreen N1 with "patato chip fingers"? Or what about when it rains, are you comfortable answering the phone or performing functions on your touchscreen N1 in the rain?
Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting the N1 with ATT 3G.
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I am on T-Mobile with my Nexus One. As for the settings, it wouldn't be hard at all, just need to google the mms settings for AT&T, then enter them in. Android auto checks every APN setting you add until it finds the one that works.
As for how would I feel... not sure. I am a bit OCD about keeping my phone clean. I wouldn't just mash away with them caked, I would wipe them off a bit first. I didn't that with my Nokia 6010 as well, though. I have a screen protector on my Nexus, which makes it easier to clean up, so I am not super anal... I just wipe my hand off first, like I would with any phone, or anything really.
Actually, to be super specific, I was eating potato chips at work yesterday, and texting my lady at the same time......
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As for how would I feel... not sure. I am a bit OCD about keeping my phone clean. I wouldn't just mash away with them caked, I would wipe them off a bit first. I didn't that with my Nokia 6010 as well, though. I have a screen protector on my Nexus, which makes it easier to clean up, so I am not super anal... I just wipe my hand off first, like I would with any phone, or anything really.
Actually, to be super specific, I was eating potato chips at work yesterday, and texting my lady at the same time......
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Nope, they are working on an official apps to SD, but as of now not an option...
If you root your phone, you can do apps to SD, but not many people, especially those asking in here, will have their phone rooted.
If you root your phone, you can do apps to SD, but not many people, especially those asking in here, will have their phone rooted.
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I thought when I set my phone up I had the apps stored to my SD card. I don't know about "root" so I am sure I didn't set it up any way out of what was in the original set up by Android.
I did take your advice and deleted programs that I don't use.
I did take your advice and deleted programs that I don't use.
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Yeah, it is not an option... the apps install to the phone itself. Most of them use the SD card to store a fair amount of info, but the app itself is on the phone itself, unless you get apps to sd, which requires root (jailbreak in iphone terms).
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The Android OS uses the Dalvik Virtual Machine for apps(from small, like a calculator, to large like SenseUI). It is basically a modified Java script reader that allows the integration of other codec's and standards(kinda like a "gear" or "plug in").
The dalvik cache is the cache of the dalvik virtual machine. Like a web browser, which caches website info to load faster next time you visit, it does the same thing, only it does it with your app info.
When people talk about a smart phone having a "memory leak", this is what is causing it... some phones/OS do less caching than others... ie, BB's cache a TON of info to keep them "snappy", but at a certain point it is too much and the phone slows down. Android caches less, and has more e...
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The dalvik cache is the cache of the dalvik virtual machine. Like a web browser, which caches website info to load faster next time you visit, it does the same thing, only it does it with your app info.
When people talk about a smart phone having a "memory leak", this is what is causing it... some phones/OS do less caching than others... ie, BB's cache a TON of info to keep them "snappy", but at a certain point it is too much and the phone slows down. Android caches less, and has more e...
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So in the BB's case, if it comes to a "BB crawl" couldn't somebody just clear their cache or do a device restart?
Are you a developer or something, you seem really knowledgable.
Are you a developer or something, you seem really knowledgable.
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Yes, you could and should just do a battery pull on the BB, or you can do a key command:
left "alt caps key+ delete
Does the same sort of reset a battery pull does... simply powering down the device does not do this, unless you let it sit for about 30 minutes.
And I am sort of a developer... I sell cell phone and cell phone accessories, and also go way in depth with product knowledge. I have developed custom ROMs for WM devices, and wrote a couple programs that sucked... Mostly, I am an enthusiast which too much free time.
A lot of what I have learned I learned here:
http://www.xda-developers.com »
I have also picked up a lot from reading the crackberry forums, and other what nots.
left "alt caps key+ delete
Does the same sort of reset a battery pull does... simply powering down the device does not do this, unless you let it sit for about 30 minutes.
And I am sort of a developer... I sell cell phone and cell phone accessories, and also go way in depth with product knowledge. I have developed custom ROMs for WM devices, and wrote a couple programs that sucked... Mostly, I am an enthusiast which too much free time.
A lot of what I have learned I learned here:
http://www.xda-developers.com »
I have also picked up a lot from reading the crackberry forums, and other what nots.
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