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push to talk sooner than expected?

mistercrinkles

Aug 19, 2005, 12:51 PM
Adding features to a customers account today in POS.com, I noticed something mighty interesting...

Push to Talk UNL feature add for $9.99. 😲

It may be coming sooner than we'd believe... 😛
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John Bunyan

Aug 19, 2005, 3:19 PM
mistercrinkles said:
Adding features to a customers account today in POS.com, I noticed something mighty interesting...

Push to Talk UNL feature add for $9.99. 😲

It may be coming sooner than we'd believe... 😛


Goodbye Craptel! đŸ¤Ŗ
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ralph_on_me

Aug 19, 2005, 3:27 PM
Yeah, we noticed that at our company yesterday. ☚ī¸

I'm still waiting for an explaination of why PTT is a good thing.
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sportfan153

Aug 19, 2005, 3:56 PM
Craptel? Think Not, still have a long way before you get close to nextels Direct Connect!
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RUFF1415

Aug 19, 2005, 4:01 PM
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

If what he says is true, and you look at the coverage difference between carriers, looks Cingular will have you beat.

Kodiak's PTT solution is supposedly the best PTT that's around right now (next to Direct Connect on iDen).
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sportfan153

Aug 19, 2005, 4:05 PM
Are you serious? that Fast? If thats so, then holy crap!! lol. 😲 Thats pretty cool, the reason i said that was because ive had ready to link with sprint, took like 2-4 secs to connect. But I heard Kodiak wasnt that good, because now i have t mobile. so i knew that cingy and t mobile were working with kodiak for ptt solution. But if its coming that fast to nextels' DC, sprintnextel wont be in a league of there own anymore!
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mistercrinkles

Aug 19, 2005, 4:16 PM
I'm not even excited for it, in the least.
Never would I give my parent company more money than i absolutely have to. 🙂

I'm not even sure if any of my phones are push-to-talk capable. Is the Razr or the 6230 or the 6620 push to talk, does anyone know?

On Nokia's website, if I'm not mistaken, the 6230 is listed as such. But I could easily be mistaken.

If anyone could clear up the issue it'd be much appreciated. đŸ˜ŗ
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sportfan153

Aug 19, 2005, 4:17 PM
well yea, But i dont see where you would have to pay for it if you do not want it? right?
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ralph_on_me

Aug 19, 2005, 4:49 PM
I didn't see a part anywhere in there about why PTT is a good thing. What's the benefit?
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colione112

Aug 20, 2005, 12:56 AM
A good thing... ok..

towing companies.. they gotta call in when they pick up a vehicle and drop it off... say the office is busy, you ptt, they tell u to hld on.. while your holding, you set the phone down, release/pickup the car, then when they ptt u back, you pick up the phone.. saves time.

is that a good enough reason, or do u want me to offer more? there are tons of uses...

and yes, it is being launched in sept for businesses, and oct for consumers(retail). most cou lines for employees should be receiving ptt phones sometime in sept(can't wait)
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Drezenzik

Aug 31, 2005, 12:44 PM
I would love to hear more. I have yet to find a good reason, other than the cool factor to sell this service to any of my customers.
In your situation above, why could they not have called using free mobile to mobile and just leave it on hold. Would cost nothing and would save just as much time and not pay $10 extra a month.
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nextel18

Aug 21, 2005, 11:44 PM
hey.... remember that whole coverage situation? well sprint and verizon has a bigger coverage area then nextel and how did they do? lol.

Kodiak is actually pretty good on its own but when you put it on the gsm/gprs network it will make it slower.

i posted something... https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/p_forum.php ?fm=m&ff=715&fi=366728
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simplymarcus

Aug 22, 2005, 8:25 AM
Kodiak for Cingular will not be over GPRS. If cingular wanted to do PTT over GPRS. They would have launched PTT as planned in 10/04. t
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2005, 5:10 AM
oh ok, but it will be over the gsm network, which always makes the system slower regardless if its over voice or not. by the way we will have to see what happens to capacity if it does use the voice channels.
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uNt0uChAbLe

Aug 23, 2005, 8:14 AM
nextel18 said:
oh ok, but it will be over the gsm network, which always makes the system slower regardless if its over voice or not. by the way we will have to see what happens to capacity if it does use the voice channels.


Please present facts to back up your statement. đŸ¤Ŗ
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jinx7676

Aug 23, 2005, 10:23 AM
nextel18 said:
oh ok, but it will be over the gsm network, which always makes the system slower regardless if its over voice or not. by the way we will have to see what happens to capacity if it does use the voice channels.


allegedly the response time is .1 to .3 ms (yes that's milliseconds) slower than Nextel, but i need to do more research on how Kodiak's platform works. from what i thought it will use the data network, not the voice channels
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2005, 10:40 AM
hmm. well regardless if it uses the voice channels or the data channels there will still be latency.


here are a few sites for you....

http://www.kodiaknetworks.com/solutions/InstantCalli ... »

http://www.kodiaknetworks.com/solutions/KodiakOvervi ... »
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simplymarcus

Aug 23, 2005, 1:58 PM
Cingular is not launching PTT to compete with Nextel. Cingular is just filling a hole for their customers in their own product line. And trying to have a product that meets customers expectations for PTT.
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2005, 7:51 PM
they arent launching a product to compete so whats the point of launching it? of course to compete. i am just saying that cingular will fail at this that is all.
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simplymarcus

Aug 31, 2005, 11:03 AM
Cingular is just trying to raise thier ARPU. cingular will not fail at PTT becuase their solution will work to raise consumer ARPU. And maybe attract soem nextel customers that do not want to be Sprint customers. I know u love Sprint but u diss Cingular customer care a lot. But Sprint ranks lower in every customer service category. Why don't u ever mention that? You call Sprint a great company but they had less coverage and customers than cingular before they bought AT&T.
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nextel18

Sep 1, 2005, 9:14 AM
Because I look at metrics, and regarding metrics sprint leads cingular in basically everything.

I see, that is an interesting business plan to look at. We will see if that product does well.

Sprint has more spectrum then cingular and soon more towers which will increase pops and capacity.
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RUFF1415

Sep 1, 2005, 2:20 PM
Exactly how many towers do you think Sprint is going to have? I'm calling you on your statement, I think it's garbage.
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ant1171984

Sep 1, 2005, 9:56 PM
Kodiak, the software provider of cingular's PTT will be right up there w/ Nextel's Iden PTT (Direct Connect). Plus cingular has wayyyyyyyyy better coverage. Cant wait!
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nextel18

Aug 22, 2005, 12:00 AM
rich said the same thing on https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/p_forum.php ?fm=m&ff=715&fi=366736

(the white papers say the same too)


whenever you are on voip and on gprs it will be slower then normal.
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RUFF1415

Aug 22, 2005, 12:19 AM
Kodiak's solution doesn't use data at all, not even through VoIP.

Kodiak's PTT uses GSM voice channels and just "cuts out" the necessary dialing in a normal phone call. That is how it is possible to reach speeds on par with Nextel's DirectConnect.
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chamelea

Aug 19, 2005, 4:55 PM
"Buford?"
"Buford Justice!"
"Bandit here, Buford ..."
"Gotcha ears'on, good Buddy?"
"C'mon back !!"
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eltoroloco

Aug 21, 2005, 3:04 PM
This technology has many benefits, but for most the dispatch feature of being able to contact more than 2 other phones at once is the attraction. Kodiak has a great website for those cingular cust serv, and cingular sales reps wishing to learn more on their solution for ptt.

http://www.kodiaknetworks.com/ »
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colione112

Aug 21, 2005, 11:40 PM
hey thats a great site... I just went through the demo.. I actually learned alot just from that. Thanks for the link 😁 I'm gonna make sure everyone in my store goes through it so they understand how it will work.
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bluegod

Aug 22, 2005, 9:34 PM
god i freaking hope not, worlds most retarded feature
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