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Sure hope Verizon get's an iPhone.

PACWEST

Mar 31, 2010, 11:06 PM

"That same attrition, or churn, will actually start to improve quality on the AT&T network. For example, Sprint service right now is fantastic in many areas; they have lost 5-10 million users," said Gould.

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get to the point

Apr 1, 2010, 11:11 AM
When I read things that talk about AT&T losing all these customer and people talk about how they hope AT&T fails I just don't get it. If AT&T fails are people not aware how many lives will be affected. Jobs lost, cars lost, homes lost. So what would happen is the government would take over AT&T like they did GM. So we have the #2 car company in the world and the #2 communication company in the world being ran by the US government. I don't see how that would be a good thing. We need verizon and AT&T both to stay big and profitable.
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Menno

Apr 1, 2010, 11:56 AM
should find more eggs for it's basket (and actually try NOT destroying them like they are with android)
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get to the point

Apr 1, 2010, 12:15 PM
I agree with you in part. I think att needs to get bought into android more than what they have. The web os is a good move also. But as for more eggs, GM had more vines of cars then any other auto make by far, and look what happen to them.
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Menno

Apr 1, 2010, 12:27 PM
Yes, but their failing business practices were also protected by the federal government limiting imported cars to keep foreign made vehicles artificially higher in price (since those companies opened up factories here in the us while GM was free to shift almost all their plants overseas)

The difference with cellphones is if you have android, and apple, and winmo and... let's say they get bada.. and bada fails, you still have a few platforms to fall back on, as long as you didn't dump ALL your marketing money/investment into bada.

Which is what they're doing now with Apple. Yes, it's making them a lot of money, but when they lose exclusivity (which they will unless one company buys the other) they'll have their flagship product, that...
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get to the point

Apr 1, 2010, 1:20 PM
Very will put with to overseas products as it relates to GM. But the main reason for the fall of GM was the high payrol, mostly paying people that no longer worked for the company. But back to cell phones.

I want to see other companys get the Iphone no problem with me on that. I think AT&T needs to make some better decisions, same can me said for sprint, t-mobile and verizon. I will say that I don't want them to fail any of them.

There are severl phones out that out perform the Iphone. I'll admit I have the Iphone now, only reason I don't have the nexus one is because I cant go into a store and buy one. (Got burnt once by ording off line.)
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Menno

Apr 1, 2010, 1:33 PM
That was part of the reason for the protectionist policies because it artificially increased the cost of an "american" made car. if this "crisis" had come earlier there would've been other ways to deal with it other thna the government having to step in. but as said.. another conversation.
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Jayshmay

Apr 1, 2010, 6:29 PM
That's EXACTLY why I left ATT, they destroyed Android. So now I have a real Android smartphone with Vzn, that ACTUALLY says "With Google" on the back of my Droid.
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Jayshmay

Apr 1, 2010, 8:59 PM
You should be a beta tester for Skyfire for Android

http://www.androidcentral.com/skyfire-browser-coming ... »
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Menno

Apr 2, 2010, 1:20 PM
I'm beta testing Vlingo right now >.
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Jayshmay

Apr 2, 2010, 1:32 PM
What sort of app is Vlingo?

Oh, and btw, I am soooo coool, I have the Earth & moon rotating on my homescreen, booyeah!!! I also d/l a live wallpaper of fireworks!!!!

I got the 2.1 update @ 4am your time!!!
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Menno

Apr 2, 2010, 1:52 PM
It's an advanced voice to text app. so I can say "send text to john, I'll be late" and it will compose it for me
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Jayshmay

Apr 2, 2010, 1:55 PM
Very cool! Is there anything about that's better than just using the microphone that's built into the software kb for voice to text?

My Droid is going on a journey through space, I'm using the star field live wallpaper right now.
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Menno

Apr 2, 2010, 2:02 PM
you can lauch applications etc by tapping on the widget. once you are in the text message app, the mic is more accurate
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Jayshmay

Apr 2, 2010, 1:42 PM
OMG!!!!! I have a storm on my homescreen, how freaking cool!!! I also d/l a star field, you know, kinda like Star Wars/Star Trek? I haven't tried the star field one yet though.
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CellStudent

Apr 1, 2010, 12:26 PM
get to the point said:
When I read things that talk about AT&T losing all these customer and people talk about how they hope AT&T fails I just don't get it. If AT&T fails are people not aware how many lives will be affected. Jobs lost, cars lost, homes lost.



Thank you for so eloquently enunciating your economic ignorance.

Shifting customers from one carrier to another has no impact on the net employment of telecom at large. If Ma Bell has to lay off 1,000 employees due solely to customer defections, the other telecom companies will have to hire employees to take care of the customers siphoned off of Ma Bell. If the other companies are being run more efficiently and only hire 800 people to offset t...
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get to the point

Apr 1, 2010, 12:51 PM
As for that 20% that don't have jobs now. Guess that will be ok for them. (1000 jobs lost 800 jobs gained) With you going all ECON 101 on me I must point out to you how 20% unemployment is not good. Country in at 10% now to help you understand what you are saying. FYI we are having a econ problem as a country.

What I was trying to get at is why do people want AT&T to fail. Why do they want any company to fail. I would be saying the same thing if people were talking about verizon. I would even say the same for McDonalds. No I don't think losing the Iphone deal will affect AT&T to the point of fail. But did you see what the market did after WSJ wrote an article about verizon getting the iphone. AT&T's stock may be back up today ...
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CellStudent

Apr 1, 2010, 4:45 PM
get to the point said:
As for that 20% that don't have jobs now. Guess that will be ok for them. (1000 jobs lost 800 jobs gained) With you going all ECON 101 on me I must point out to you how 20% unemployment is not good. Country in at 10% now to help you understand what you are saying. FYI we are having a econ problem as a country.

Individuals who cannot compete with other job candidates in an industry will go find another industry to work in. It's been that way for 4,000 years and nothing is going to change it. It's called frictional unemployment and it's absolutely essential to the stable functionality of any economy.

I'm not out to see AT&T or any other specific company fail, but the reality...
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bigmel314

Apr 3, 2010, 8:22 PM
Your argument is dumb. Burrr!
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CellStudent

Apr 5, 2010, 11:26 AM
bigmel314 said:
Your argument is dumb. Burrr!



Next am is mian leat a dhiúltú ar an iompar acadúil, le do thoil, rud a rá ciallmhar. Ádh mór ar líon seo amach!
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alee

Apr 7, 2010, 1:57 PM
As someone that works in a store that sells the I phone and virtually all other att phones, I will be the first to tell you that att has many more phones to offer, and in the month and a half that we have had the i phone, not a single one we have sold is a new line. Personally, I add 20 new lines a month and the store does about 50 a month, and NO ONE has done a new line on an i phone. I havent sold but 1 i phone the whole time, and that was an upgrade. My point is, people are coming to att for other reasons than the i phone.
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CellStudent

Apr 7, 2010, 4:15 PM
Let me ask you another question:

"What percentage of AT&T family plan accounts do you look at that have ZERO iPhones on them?"
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alee

Apr 7, 2010, 5:42 PM
Actually, pretty uncommon. If I was going to put a figure on it, I would say 75% do not have an I-phone. I have noticed that most I phones are on individual accounts. Most of my new lines and ports come from customers that were rubbed the wrong way with Sprint or Verizon. Im not saying ATT is perfect because I bet we lose people as well for the same thing. And if I have a customer that wants to go to verizon, I just show them how much money they have saved in the last year by using roll over. I think I got off subject. Damn rockstar energy drinks, dont let me think straight. 🤣
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PACWEST

Apr 1, 2010, 6:56 PM

The rumor...again...is that Apple is working on developing a CDMA version of the iPhone and plans to begin distributing the popular smartphone through Verizon in the near future, ending its exclusivity arrangement with AT&T. The move could benefit Apple and Verizon, but will also be an advantage for existing AT&T customers.

Analysts have been predicting that Apple could dramatically increase iPhone sales by ending exclusivity. Of course, that conclusion doesn't take any extra-sensory perception to arrive at. If you have more or less saturated the market for iPhones at one wireless provider, and you add another--even larger--wireless provider, it makes sense that iPhone sales will increase accordingly.

Verizon has taken so
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WernerCD

Apr 7, 2010, 4:38 PM
They are yummy. Let them suffer.
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