I don't see a diffence in the phones. Verizon puts there logo on the phone just like AT&T does. And Verizon was the first to launch a 3G network in the US. It has the largest 3G network. It was the first to launch Unlimited Texting. First to launch music downloading to your phone, V Cast Music. First to launch a video download service and streaming video service, V Cast Video. First to offer RingBack Tones. First to offer LIVE TV on your phone, V Cast Mobile TV. I think Verizon wins. After all, AT&T copies Verizon.

For example, Unlimited Calling for 99 $. Verizon came out with it first, then AT&T did 4 days later.

And now that they will be the first to offer LTE (4G) in the US. Verizon is not just for old people.

Cellphonejockey, I just wanted to remind you that Verizon came out with the $99 Unlimited plan to compete with the plan that Sprint came out with first. ATT is not the only copycat in the business.

Sprint came out with that plan after Verizon did. Not before.

wrong. simply everything was out first. then verizon released $99 unlimited. everyone is a copycat in the cell phone industry. stop trying to stick up for verizon. all companies are horrible.

Cellphonejocky said:
I don't see a diffence in the phones. Verizon puts there logo on the phone just like AT&T does. And Verizon was the first to launch a 3G network in the US. It has the largest 3G network. It was the first to launch Unlimited Texting. First to launch music downloading to your phone, V Cast Music. First to launch a video download service and streaming video service, V Cast Video. First to offer RingBack Tones. First to offer LIVE TV on your phone, V Cast Mobile TV. I think Verizon wins. After all, AT&T copies Verizon.

For example, Unlimited Calling for 99 $. Verizon came out with it first, then AT&T did 4 days later.

And now that they will be the first to offer LTE (4G) in the US. Verizon is not ju

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Cellphonejocky said:
I don't see a diffence in the phones.

Ha. Try posting this on a phone community website like howardforums or engadget and see the flameball that comes your way. AT&T offers many different proprietary operating systems on their phones and many consumers appreciate this. Don't want a Windows Mobile or BlackBerry smartphone? Don't like the VZUI on your dumbphone? Tough luck, VZW consumer.

Cellphonejocky said:
And Verizon was the first to launch a 3G network in the US.

Verizon was the first to launch a 3G CAPABLE network in the US, with EV-DO Rev. 0. This network was capable of 40-140 kbps. Sound like a familiar speed? Probably not because...
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Ash,

Good post.

I think Voicestream, before T-Mobile bought them had an unlimited, gimicky plan back in 2001.

I just switched a T-Mobile customer who had that plan and still had a Voicestream SIM. Of course he had been buying unlocked phones all this time....

Will

Thanks Will

Did you happen to catch how much the plan was? Was it 99.99 as well?

It was unlimited minutes nationwide for $99.99. He mentioned he had had it since January 2002.

T-Mobile worked great for him until he moved to my neck of the woods.

Will

Cellphonejocky said:
I don't see a diffence in the phones. Verizon puts there logo on the phone just like AT&T does. And Verizon was the first to launch a 3G network in the US. It has the largest 3G network. It was the first to launch Unlimited Texting. First to launch music downloading to your phone, V Cast Music. First to launch a video download service and streaming video service, V Cast Video. First to offer RingBack Tones. First to offer LIVE TV on your phone, V Cast Mobile TV. I think Verizon wins. After all, AT&T copies Verizon.

For example, Unlimited Calling for 99 $. Verizon came out with it first, then AT&T did 4 days later.

And now that they will be the first to offer LTE (4G) in the US. Verizon is not ju

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Verizon does have Unlimited text, talk, web, nav, v cast, get it now, and Calling. They had it before Sprint did idiot. And There is not a CDMA BlackBerry with WiFi idiot. Sprint does not have one. AT&T and T-Mobile do because there GSM and there BlackBerrys dont have 3G except the Bold. Our Touch Pro has WiFi, so do all our phones that were made with WiFi. Verizon has never blocked WiFi. Our phones have Unlocked GPS now. Get your facts straight.

What are you talking about you said 99$ please check yourself first you are wrong Verizon does not have all that for 99$.

and you said that verizon doesn't cripple their phones please look at this link from verizon (compare the ram, verizons is like 156 and sprints is like 32😎

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller? ... »

sprints
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1681 »


another blackberry phone on verizon no gps (only vz navigator)
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller? ... »

But sprints has stand alone blackberry maps and gps
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASApp/onlinestore/e »...
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dont know why it put a smiley face when its supposed to say 328

Cellphonejocky said:
I don't see a diffence in the phones. Verizon puts there logo on the phone just like AT&T does. And Verizon was the first to launch a 3G network in the US. It has the largest 3G network. It was the first to launch Unlimited Texting. First to launch music downloading to your phone, V Cast Music. First to launch a video download service and streaming video service, V Cast Video. First to offer RingBack Tones. First to offer LIVE TV on your phone, V Cast Mobile TV. I think Verizon wins. After all, AT&T copies Verizon.

For example, Unlimited Calling for 99 $. Verizon came out with it first, then AT&T did 4 days later.

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Like the man said,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHO THE HELL CARES??????????????????/This is STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sparker781 said:
I like the fact that 95 percent of the time ATT allows the phone to do what its meant to do whereas Verizon basically takes the phone and stamps Verizon crap all over it...

What, EXACTLY, are you upset about? The UI being designed so that any VZW customer can pick up any VZW phone and actually start using it fully in less then 10 minutes?

If you're that anal about the user interface, you need a PDA/Blackberry anyway, and VZW doesn't touch those things in the slightest.

What, really, are you looking for/complaining about with those detail-less blanket statements you're throwing around about "stuffed-shirt VZW phones?"

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CellStudent said:


What, EXACTLY, are you upset about? The UI being designed so that any VZW customer can pick up any VZW phone and actually start using it fully in less then 10 minutes?

If you're that anal about the user interface, you need a PDA/Blackberry anyway, and VZW doesn't touch those things in the slightest.

What, really, are you looking for/complaining about with those detail-less blanket statements you're throwing around about "stuffed-shirt VZW phones?"

In the absence of some kind of actual, discrete complaint, you sound like just another fan-boy seminar troll wasting my time in writing a response to you. No one can help you without specifics of what you want.

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So because you are having software issues, it is because of verison's OS? You also stated that you had the phone for over a year in another thread which is why stores won't just swap out the phone. The warranty LG offers only covers the first year on the device.

Try having them flash the software and reload back in the current versions. Any tech center should have this capability.

CellStudent said:


What, EXACTLY, are you upset about? The UI being designed so that any VZW customer can pick up any VZW phone and actually start using it fully in less then 10 minutes?

If you're that anal about the user interface, you need a PDA/Blackberry anyway, and VZW doesn't touch those things in the slightest.

What, really, are you looking for/complaining about with those detail-less blanket statements you're throwing around about "stuffed-shirt VZW phones?"

In the absence of some kind of actual, discrete complaint, you sound like just another fan-boy seminar troll wasting my time in writing a response to you. No one can help you without specifics of what you want.

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So, apparently I've offended the AT&T forum Gods with my presumption that perhaps a man might conceivably exercise his right to freedom of press on the Internet (of all places!) in an effort to discover what the real problem is so I can help.

Who'd have thunk it?

Anyhow, here's my thoughts for you, sparker- I hope you find them useful, as I usually try to post only relevant conversation pieces:

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

I wouldn't want jrfdsf to think anything posted here might actually be of any value to anyone wanting to get some factual information.

Now, about spewing out both ends about other carriers off-network usage policies... 😲

In case you didn't know jrfdsf is the kin of the lord jesus christ and by you questioning his knowledge is considered blasthemy. In order to save your soul you better take back your words or you might be cast back into the beginning of earth....6,000 years ago.

Thinking of switching
by sparker781 Monday, 9:31 AM
Hey All

I am seriously thinking of switching over to ATT. I am currently a Verizon customer, and want something other than the stuffed shirt Verizon phones that they offer, I have a question...Does ATT offer any type of trial period?

Thanks

Now, here is your "answer":

CellStudent said:

What, EXACTLY, are you upset about? The UI being designed so that any VZW customer can pick up any VZW phone and actually start using it fully in less then 10 minutes?

If you're that anal about the user interface, you need a PDA/Blackberry anyway, and VZW doesn't touch those things in the slightest.

What, really, are you looking for/compla

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Verizons UI is not crippled. There are 3 diffrent menu options. The service bars are eaiser to read. There is no problem with it.

Cellphonejocky said:
Verizons UI is not crippled. There are 3 diffrent menu options. The service bars are eaiser to read. There is no problem with it.

Wow, THREE whole options!

And on those phones can you:
Change the "1" key designated for voicemail to some other key?

Change individual menu items in the order they appear?

Change the UI profile and how the phone rings with the push of one button?

Remove the Verizon Wireless banner from the home screen and type in something else instead?

Create shortcuts to favorite menu items with the push of one button?

Assign different functions to the soft keys and other buttons on the phone?

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Although I think pretty much everyone on this thread needs to step back and think about how much time is being wasted, I will answer your questions in an unbiased opinion.

Yes - on SOME phones.
No - with the exception of the DARE
No
Yes - you can customize the banner
Yes, we do have direction shortkeys for customizable favorites
Yes on most phones.

I hope that answers yur question. Verizon uses an operating system (LG originally developed it by the by) because of a major customer complaint - difficulty of use everytime a customer upgrades their phone. I personally think it's a brilliant idea, because not everyone is as quick picking up new technology as you and me.

Before you talk about how terrible it is, please remember that...
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you.CAN.hear.me.now said:
Although I think pretty much everyone on this thread needs to step back and think about how much time is being wasted, I will answer your questions in an unbiased opinion.

Yes - on SOME phones.
No - with the exception of the DARE
No
Yes - you can customize the banner
Yes, we do have direction shortkeys for customizable favorites
Yes on most phones.

I hope that answers yur question. Verizon uses an operating system (LG originally developed it by the by) because of a major customer complaint - difficulty of use everytime a customer upgrades their phone. I personally think it's a brilliant idea, because not everyone is as quick picking up new technology as you and me.

Before you talk

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There is nothing wrong with our phones. At least our customers can make calls in the majority of the US. 🤣

Cellphonejocky said:
There is nothing wrong with our phones. At least our customers can make calls in the majority of the US. 🤣

like i said they said that Verizon doesn't touch BB's at all, check their curve and world addition phone, they make you use vz navigator, when those phones come with bb maps and gps.

Don't believe me check out Verizon website.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller? ... »

It says VZ Navigator Capable. Google maps, BlackBerry Maps, ect. are allowed now. GPS is not locked anymore. VZ Navigator is not a bad product anyway.

Your wrong, my friend has that phone it came out b4 Verizon started to "stop" messing with phones. only time you can use gps is with vz navigator.



P.S. they do still mess with phones, the Verizon has less ram by alot than the sprint or att version.

jrfdsf said:
Thinking of switching
by sparker781 Monday, 9:31 AM
I am currently a Verizon customer, and want something other than the stuffed shirt Verizon phones that they offer... Does ATT offer any type of trial period?

Thanks

Now, here is your "answer":

What, EXACTLY, are you upset about?

THIS is what I'm talking about.

He asked about a trial period.

I doubt very seriously that any help you have decided to provide him now will be appreciated...

Ha. In the ammunition business (my industry) if someone gives any hint whatsoever that they're dissatisfied with the $1,000 in machinery they bought from you last month, yo...
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