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what is the point in being with verizon with free roaming from sprint?

Rachel1977

Jan 31, 2007, 12:24 AM
i was using verizon for around three years. there service is good but not great. before i switched to sprint i was told i could roam for free on verizon. which is true. i can roam with both voice calling and data for free. so what i want to ask the people here, what is the point in staying with verizon? if you prefer verizons service, you could always get a cheaper plan from sprint then set your phone to roam. you get a cheaper service, larger network coverage, and you are not forced to buy verizons overpriced get it now garbage. there is tons of free software for sprint phones out there. i am using opera mini and gmail myself and they are completely free. verizon wanted me to pay extra for pop e-mail access.
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BadMon

Jan 31, 2007, 7:50 AM
Maybe we want good customer service. Maybe most of our friends and family use Verizon. Maybe we're just happy with what we got.
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blue2kzr2

Jan 31, 2007, 9:00 AM
On top of that, some carriers will drop you if you spend less than 50% of your minutes on their network.
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dca

Jan 31, 2007, 10:01 AM
...umm, I don't see much of a price difference in calling plans anymore. The same 700 min for two phone dealie is $69... The only difference is n/w starts at 7PM on weekdays instead of 9PM...

If you're out of contract, the only thing you can do is take advantage of each carriers free trial and see which is best...
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Frady

Jan 31, 2007, 10:40 AM
Blue is right. Sprint has a thing if you use more then 50 percent of your minutes roaming for 3 straight month they can(and have some times) drop you. Personally i love sprint and the new M1 and do myself enjoy roaming off verizon towers but watch how often you do that.
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dca

Jan 31, 2007, 1:31 PM
Most carriers have that 50% roaming rule written into their contracts...
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CptWireless

Jan 31, 2007, 7:48 PM
I have had many Verizon customers who have come to me because Verizon was dropping them since they were in roam for more than half the time.
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SprintFTW

Feb 4, 2007, 10:59 PM
Just leave your Sprint phone in automatic and you will go onto a Verizon tower when needed and stay on a Sprint tower most of the time... then you don't have to worry about the 50% roaming rule.

And yes, it's true when you put a Sprint phone into roaming a large amount of the time it will lock onto a Verizon tower. Anyone who has ever looked into the contents of a "PRL" file (Preferred Roaming List) will see this.
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New_2_T-Mobile

Jan 31, 2007, 10:25 AM
Ok for starters sprint sucks and I don't want to have to force my phone to roam! why you ask? because I want my network to have the CAPACTIY to handle the majority of my calls within its own network, verizon capacity is much great then sprints! you might think they have the same call clarity but the MAJORITY of the people don't, sprint network sucks and drops allot of calls, I've used it and experience what most of America has, a crappy network! I don't want 7-11 customer service either, its very annoying having to deal with someone who can barely speak English when I'm just trying to get simple request done. Verizon has more reliable network period we have back up generators at most all of our towers stations, sprint has battery back up onl...
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Azeron

Jan 31, 2007, 12:24 PM
In my area, Verizon has EV-DO and Sprint does not. I don't think Sprint and Verizon have an agreement in place to share EV-DO/1X but let's say they do just for the sake of arguement. My understanding of roaming agreements is that carriers agree to pay a competitor for their customers having the ability to roam in areas where the home carrier does not have coverage. No carrier wants its customers to roam off a competitor's towers when it has coverage in a particular locale. For example: Say Verizon provided four bars of signal strength at my house but Sprint provides one...my Sprint phone (heaven forbid that I were foolish enough to own one) would choose the Sprint tower, thus denying me the luxury of Verizon's far superior network. You...
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2007, 1:16 PM
Azeron said:
In my area, Verizon has EV-DO and Sprint does not. I don't think Sprint and Verizon have an agreement in place to share EV-DO/1X but let's say they do just for the sake of arguement. My understanding of roaming agreements is that carriers agree to pay a competitor for their customers having the ability to roam in areas where the home carrier does not have coverage. No carrier wants its customers to roam off a competitor's towers when it has coverage in a particular locale. For example: Say Verizon provided four bars of signal strength at my house but Sprint provides one...my Sprint phone (heaven forbid that I were foolish enough to own one) would choose the Sprint tower, thus denying me the luxury of Ver
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LordObento

Jan 31, 2007, 2:16 PM
Both Verizon and Sprint use PRL (preferred Roaming List). On an America's Choice II plan, you got List A and List B. When your phone looks for a network it looks for List A (Verizon towers) 1st even if another provider has stronger signal. If it cannot pick up a Verizon signal it goes to List B (roaming partners) this will search for the cheapest partner down the line until it gets a signal. On any Verizon PRL, Sprint is dead last... and you will probably get No Service before you pick up a Sprint tower. If you have an Amer Choice I plan, there is a List C for roaming on someone's tower who isnt a roaming partner. Now, there are ways to hack the phone and remove the PRL and you don't want *228 opt 2 to PRL update after that, then you can use...
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wirelesscom1

Feb 6, 2007, 3:40 PM
They could make the phone not just to support Wimax but support CDMA and/or tdma networks for backup...
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2007, 12:17 PM
Prolly because if you have Sprint and you're in an area that has both Sprint and Verizon towers (which is a lotta places), I'd think that your Sprint phone is going to go with the Sprint towers (no need to roam then, right?). And because of the frequency Sprint uses (they're all or mostly 1900 MHz), they don't get good reception indoors a lotta times.

I know, I used to have Sprint, and they sucked indoors. VZW is way better there (they seem to have a lot of 850 MHz coverage), and in general too. 😎

Plus, if you roam on VZW too much with Sprint, don't they dropkick you off their plan and you have to pay the ETF? I don't much like that either.
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Turbomagnani

Jan 31, 2007, 1:27 PM
Verizon is great but if you want other go ahead then you'll come back. Whats the point of this thread I notice alot of people posting anti-verizon threads this week 👿 🤣
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yeahright

Jan 31, 2007, 1:51 PM
and that is new how? that is all this forum is anymore. I used to post in here a ton years back, but anymore it is just a bunch of crying fanboys and I spend more time getting my info from more useful sites these days. 😢
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Turbomagnani

Jan 31, 2007, 2:05 PM
would you like to share the sites url? 🙂
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gunny

Jan 31, 2007, 2:10 PM
www.howardforums.com and http://www.engadgetmobile.com/ are the most informational IMO! I don't know if you have posted on hofo but beware they are dick heads, the mods power trip hard core, but there is allot of very good info despite that. I still enjoy this site the most as far as posting is concerned!
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yeahright

Jan 31, 2007, 3:38 PM
same two i use the most, I would agree about hofo. I like the format here a lot better as well.
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Azeron

Jan 31, 2007, 11:45 PM
Some Sprint customer/employee posted so I put my two cents in. I'm new to the Carrier pages personally. I always posted under phones before and by the way...why ARE you here if it is so useless here.
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yeahright

Feb 2, 2007, 9:59 AM
WEll to be honest that was not really directed at you or any one person just this forum in general. I would also say the same thing to Verizon fanboys that post pure crap in the Sprint or Cingular forums. I still Find useful information here from time to time, You just have to filter through all the crap. I have been using this forum for years and the quality of the forum has diminished greatly over the years, this whole my carrier can beat up your carrier is just crap. We have always had these threads and always will, but in the past it was here and there and the forum was mainly filled with useful info and people trying to get help with verizon phones or account. If you bring a legit argument with good points that is one thing, but it is j...
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MidnightDT

Jan 31, 2007, 5:20 PM
if more then 50% of your calls are roaming they will terminate your service and charge you an ETF. you will lose your number if that happens.


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junglemassive

Jan 31, 2007, 5:29 PM
Doesn't actually happen.
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CptWireless

Jan 31, 2007, 7:50 PM
I'll second that.
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vzwinagent

Jan 31, 2007, 8:29 PM
It's happened to Cingular customers in our area recently.
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junglemassive

Jan 31, 2007, 8:37 PM
I was speaking about Sprint.
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ArmySF

Jan 31, 2007, 9:30 PM
BS there has been many reported cases of sprint doing that!
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slugithome1977

Feb 4, 2007, 2:52 AM
Name them? Put up some links? I know people right now that don't have any Sprint coverage in their area, that use Sprint, while roaming the entire time, and have never had any problems. Sprint has reciprocal roaming agreements now. That means their customers can roam into other networks for free, and those on the oposite network can do the same onto Sprints network. Sprint doesn't cancel accounts for too much roaming. The only carrier I have ever read about doing that, is T-Mobile. That is it!
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trucksmoveamerica

Feb 5, 2007, 9:18 AM
Well, I can tell you that Us Cellular shuts you off for the 50% rule, as I am a customer that they did that to. Trust me, if it was not for their 50% rule, I would still be with them.
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junglemassive

Feb 5, 2007, 1:28 PM
Once again, I am speaking about Sprint. It has already been established that other carriers do it.
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junglemassive

Feb 4, 2007, 4:54 PM
Yeah, I call BS on YOU. I have worked for Sprint for 2+ years and have not seen ONE case of this happening. But prove me wrong Army man. 🤣
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Shootingstar12

Feb 2, 2007, 10:57 PM
just to clear this up, Verizon does not cancel for roaming. The plans are built to allow you to roam and if you happen to roam to another carrier, then so be it.
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slugithome1977

Feb 4, 2007, 2:48 AM
There is no point. People here that are defending Verizon are newbies or people that have mommy and daddy pay for their service. True hard working people see a better value with Sprint. Free roaming is a huge deal! Like you said you can set your phone to roam and use Verizon's network all daya and night. You can use Sprint's data applications like Telenav, MobiTV, Gmail, while roaming on Verizon's network. How many people here can use Vcast content on Verizon's CDMA network? NONE OF YOU! VERIZON DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT! I can set my phone to roam right now, use Verizon's network to stream the Discovery channel, AND NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR ANYTHING EXTRA FOR IT! Can Verizon customers do that? NO! I can download a POP e-mail client and check my e-ma...
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mycool

Feb 4, 2007, 3:57 AM
You make good points but I think the only point needed to be made is: Look at the numbers and see that it doesn't matter what Sprint is offering for less, people just don't want to deal with the company period... They'd rather pay Verizon more and deal with them.
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LordObento

Feb 4, 2007, 3:57 AM
How about good customer service... Sprint does not have that... or good standing with JD Power... Consumer Reports.... Service inside building, when not roaming...

So what you are basicly saying is Sprint is NOTHING without Verizon because you have to set your phone to roam to get good service. We all understand competition and Verizon needs Sprint to get the bad credit/low APRU people Verizon turned down. Please go back to the Sprint Forum... it's not like you are going to get referral credits here.
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z34007

Feb 4, 2007, 4:52 PM
what can Verizon offer that Sprint doesn't already have?

profitability
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phil0phobia

Feb 4, 2007, 4:53 PM
Most reliable wireless network
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junglemassive

Feb 4, 2007, 5:00 PM
😳 WOW! You really buy into that marketing huh? Go on and consume based on what the advertising agencies cram down your throat. I will continue to enjoy the SAME SERVICE for WAY LESS MONEY! HAVE FUN! 🤣
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dromant

Feb 4, 2007, 6:23 PM
You and the eight other people who still use
Sprint/Nextel.... 😁
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not2brite

Feb 4, 2007, 7:06 PM
six, I just ported 2 more!
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mezzedup

Feb 4, 2007, 10:16 PM
I have another reason not to use Sprint. I wouldn't be able to get a local number, and I would have to drive about 800 miles to get to the nearest sprint store. Verizon and Alltel are the only two carriers where I live (Montana). Some people don't even have the option of Sprint, unless they want to be Roaming with an out of state number, wondering if they are going to be kicked off sprints network because sprint would rather use roaming than build out their own network. Verizon even has EVDO coverage in Montana, whereas Sprint has no native coverage in Montana. So yes, there are many reasons people would choose Verizon over Sprint.
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BanderSnatchMan

Feb 4, 2007, 10:35 PM
I can speak for both carriers, because I pay for both of them each month. I live in the ATL and I have Verizon samsung a950 and my 15 year old has Sprint treo 700wx.I do admit that sprint is cheaper than verizon, but I also can say in my area Verizon is the dominate carrier. The reason I have verizon is b/c every and I mean every one that I talk to almost ranging from family to clients have sprint, and if I add it up verizon actually saves me more money in the long run than any other carrier. As for sprint my son has said that he has had no problems with them as far as dropped calls and roaming. Though he does roam alot when he is in school b/c in his classrooms there are no windows and he cannot get any service so he roams off of verizon. S...
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LordObento

Feb 4, 2007, 11:47 PM
Wait, your 15 yr old has a treo 700wx? Why?
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BanderSnatchMan

Feb 5, 2007, 6:03 PM
He goes to McCallie Boarding School in Chattanooga, Tn and he needs it I guess for planning. He asked for it and I bought it, I didnt ask why.
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