cingular new plans - verizon should be ashamed!!!
cingular recently came out with 2 new family plans:
$49.99 450 minutes
$59.99 550 minutes
for those of us that rarely use our phone to call someone outside the IN network, the lowest price family plan of $69.99 700 minute plan is way to much for some of us. verizon does not give us a choice of anything lower and as our contracts expire, the lower priced cingular plans look tempting.
please don't start a flame was about one carrier being better/worse than another. i'm just upset that cingular has more/better options for their customers and verizon does not âšī¸
$49.99 450 minutes
$59.99 550 minutes
for those of us that rarely use our phone to call someone outside the IN network, the lowest price family plan of $69.99 700 minute plan is way to much for some of us. verizon does not give us a choice of anything lower and as our contracts expire, the lower priced cingular plans look tempting.
please don't start a flame was about one carrier being better/worse than another. i'm just upset that cingular has more/better options for their customers and verizon does not âšī¸
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You gotta remember tho'.. Cingular went to those new plans outta desperation, 'cus Verizon has been kickin' their butt so much this year.
Originally, both Cing and Verizon had $59.99 Family plans, then both dropped those plans 'cus they hurt their ARPU (average revenue per user) too much. Cing is the first one to bring those plans BACK 'cus they really don' have too much choice.. Verizon has been flat humiliating them in customer adds the past few quarters. Even T-mobile beat 'em last quarter. So Cing had to do SOMETHING to get back in the game.
Don' worry.. if its successful enough for Cing this quarter, Verizon will bring back the low-end family plans too. That's the nice thing 'bout competition, it cuts a better deal for we, the c...
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Originally, both Cing and Verizon had $59.99 Family plans, then both dropped those plans 'cus they hurt their ARPU (average revenue per user) too much. Cing is the first one to bring those plans BACK 'cus they really don' have too much choice.. Verizon has been flat humiliating them in customer adds the past few quarters. Even T-mobile beat 'em last quarter. So Cing had to do SOMETHING to get back in the game.
Don' worry.. if its successful enough for Cing this quarter, Verizon will bring back the low-end family plans too. That's the nice thing 'bout competition, it cuts a better deal for we, the c...
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Please base your opinions on fact dude.
Desperation did not play into anything. The $49.99 plan is designed only for existing customers. The poster could not get that plan should he desire to switch to Cingular.
The $59.99 plan was brought back due to customer demand and as a promotion to drive sales. Cingular matches Verizon and people complain they don't lead. Cingular comes out with a lower plan and they are called desperate. Come on, you make many good points but this is just baseless.
I forgot in business 101 where making a competitive offer was desperation.
Desperation did not play into anything. The $49.99 plan is designed only for existing customers. The poster could not get that plan should he desire to switch to Cingular.
The $59.99 plan was brought back due to customer demand and as a promotion to drive sales. Cingular matches Verizon and people complain they don't lead. Cingular comes out with a lower plan and they are called desperate. Come on, you make many good points but this is just baseless.
I forgot in business 101 where making a competitive offer was desperation.
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texaswireless said:
Please base your opinions on fact dude.
Already did, bro. đ
Contrary to what your sayin', Cing's $59.99 family plan wasnt brought back to 'match' Verizon, 'cus vzw does NOT offer a $59.99 family plan... hasn't fo' awhile now.
Desperation obviously did play into it.. last quarter, Verizon clobbered Cing in customer adds, 1.9 million to 867k. More that DOUBLED them. Heck, even T-mobile beat Cing last quarter, an' theyre barely a third of Cingular's size. An' the quarter before wasn't that much better for Cing.
There's no shame in Cing realizin' that it has to try to undercut Vzw on price.. if customers in general don' perceive Cing to be VZW's equal in service an' reliability (...
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Did I say it was brought back to match Verizon?
No I didn't.
Everything else is speculation.
No I didn't.
Everything else is speculation.
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Sounded like you did, but 'pon re-readin, seems like you were jus' complainin' out loud. Thats ok, we all do it from time to time.
Well, one thing that ain't specultation: Cing feels like it needs to undercut vzw on price. An' that says volumes, bro.
Well, one thing that ain't specultation: Cing feels like it needs to undercut vzw on price. An' that says volumes, bro.
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So the fact that many customers were wanting to add lines to their $39.99 plan and were willing to go $20 more but not $30 more doesn't factor into your thoughts and your wisdom in the wireless world?
And being able to advertise a lower price point didn't help any either?
And considering T-Mobile was the utlimate undercutter at $49.99 for two lines.
Didn't put much thought into this one did ya bro?
And being able to advertise a lower price point didn't help any either?
And considering T-Mobile was the utlimate undercutter at $49.99 for two lines.
Didn't put much thought into this one did ya bro?
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texaswireless said:
And considering T-Mobile was the utlimate undercutter at $49.99 for two lines.
Yup, T-mobile is the ultimate undercutter. An' now that Cing is desperate from bein' spanked so hard by vzw quarter after quarter, theyre followin' in T-mobile's footsteps.
Nuthin' wrong wit' that.. you price to what the market will bear, thats Business 101. Seems increasingly obvious that the market ain't willin' to bear vzw prices fo' cingular service. Why be sensititve 'bout that?
Cing can still do well as the 'good enough' carrier, IF they price right, aka lower than Verizon. Them wakin' up an' realizing that is actually a step in the right direction fo' them.
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Nice try.
Glad to see you have completely twisted this thread into something it is not. Obviously Verizon customers don't like the fact that they can't get a $59.99 plan. It isn't about undercutting. Cingular isn't cutting prices across the board. Cingular isn't haven't value issues. They are offering something many customers have asked for in a pricing tier and did it for a limited time.
Don't make it into something it isn't.
Glad to see you have completely twisted this thread into something it is not. Obviously Verizon customers don't like the fact that they can't get a $59.99 plan. It isn't about undercutting. Cingular isn't cutting prices across the board. Cingular isn't haven't value issues. They are offering something many customers have asked for in a pricing tier and did it for a limited time.
Don't make it into something it isn't.
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Theres no need ta 'try' when all your doin' is commentin' on reality, bro. đ
Also, I didn't twist this thread, I jus' gave my opinion an' you jumped in an startin' arguin'. TenMidgets calls ya 'the Cingular shyster'. I don't generally agree wit' him, but your startin' to prove him right here. Chill bro, your store won' go under jus' cus' Verizon's doin' so well.. Cing ain't goin under anytime soon.
Let's face it, Cing is indeed undercuttin' where they can. The Family plans are one part of it, the 1500 minute individual plan fo' $49.99 is another. Cing would undercut in other places too if they could, but they're afraid Verizon would match, jus' to throttle 'em. So theyre undercuttin' in areas they think vzw ain't interested in (ARPU-b...
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Also, I didn't twist this thread, I jus' gave my opinion an' you jumped in an startin' arguin'. TenMidgets calls ya 'the Cingular shyster'. I don't generally agree wit' him, but your startin' to prove him right here. Chill bro, your store won' go under jus' cus' Verizon's doin' so well.. Cing ain't goin under anytime soon.
Let's face it, Cing is indeed undercuttin' where they can. The Family plans are one part of it, the 1500 minute individual plan fo' $49.99 is another. Cing would undercut in other places too if they could, but they're afraid Verizon would match, jus' to throttle 'em. So theyre undercuttin' in areas they think vzw ain't interested in (ARPU-b...
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This is getting old.
You speculate all you want. The pissing matches here are reminiscent of BetterThanJake and his logic.
Everything you say is based on speculation. Let me know when you find some Cingular exec spelling out their new under cutting strategy. Until then your opinion is still based on nothing but speculation.
You want to argue about Cingular vs. Verizon, don't bother with me. It wasn't supposed to be like that here. It was simply about a Verizon customer stating he wished Verizon had this plan.
I don't get into the "Verizon vs. Cingular" threads for one simple reason, I think Verizon is a great company. I used to sell them and would again. Both Verizon and Cingular are strong regionally. I have been in mark...
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You speculate all you want. The pissing matches here are reminiscent of BetterThanJake and his logic.
Everything you say is based on speculation. Let me know when you find some Cingular exec spelling out their new under cutting strategy. Until then your opinion is still based on nothing but speculation.
You want to argue about Cingular vs. Verizon, don't bother with me. It wasn't supposed to be like that here. It was simply about a Verizon customer stating he wished Verizon had this plan.
I don't get into the "Verizon vs. Cingular" threads for one simple reason, I think Verizon is a great company. I used to sell them and would again. Both Verizon and Cingular are strong regionally. I have been in mark...
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Sorry you feel that way, bro.
I jus' gave my opinion, you gave yours.. thats what these forums are all about. If you don' like it, I'd say you should stop arguin' wit' peeps on the internet. Oh well.
But I gotta say, the 'speculation' thing is a nice dodge.. its not like Cing's top execs are gonna call a press conference to officially spill the beans on exactly why they do the things they do. They'd be fired, obviously. But Cing's CEO did drop some hints in an interview.. such as the fact that even he don' think Cing is the best right now. An' when your not the best, you can't really price like the best an' expect good results. That's jus' common sense, an' Cing's bad quarterly results back it up.
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I jus' gave my opinion, you gave yours.. thats what these forums are all about. If you don' like it, I'd say you should stop arguin' wit' peeps on the internet. Oh well.
But I gotta say, the 'speculation' thing is a nice dodge.. its not like Cing's top execs are gonna call a press conference to officially spill the beans on exactly why they do the things they do. They'd be fired, obviously. But Cing's CEO did drop some hints in an interview.. such as the fact that even he don' think Cing is the best right now. An' when your not the best, you can't really price like the best an' expect good results. That's jus' common sense, an' Cing's bad quarterly results back it up.
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So the fact that Cingular and Verizon have pretty much Nationwide plans even though they both have weak areas AND keep those plans means nothing. Cingular outsells Verzion hands down in DFW (and most of Texas) yet they still offer the better plans. Verizon outsells Cingular in So Cal yet Cingular doesn't offer better plans only in that market.
Again, not based on anything except speculation.
I don't think Verizon is bad. I don't think Cingular is hurting. I also don't think carriers are the same nationwide.
Again, not based on anything except speculation.
I don't think Verizon is bad. I don't think Cingular is hurting. I also don't think carriers are the same nationwide.
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Jus' cus' both companies don't regionalize their pricing currently don' make Cing crazy for undercuttin' VZW's prices where they can. On da contrary, its smart thinkin' by Cing, realizin' they can't go toe-to-toe wit' VZW down the line.
Far as regionalized pricin' goes, I know that Verizon, at least, used to offer it. They had some hella good deals out in Hawaii, fo' example. Pretty sure Cing used to regionalize some prices/deals too.
In any case, even if Cing went back to regionalized prices/deals, they'd run into the same problem: vzw price-matchin' them, which takes Cing back to square one, only wit' reduced (or no) profits.
No, what Cing's doin' right now is best fo' them- undercutting vzw where they can, only on plans where t...
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Far as regionalized pricin' goes, I know that Verizon, at least, used to offer it. They had some hella good deals out in Hawaii, fo' example. Pretty sure Cing used to regionalize some prices/deals too.
In any case, even if Cing went back to regionalized prices/deals, they'd run into the same problem: vzw price-matchin' them, which takes Cing back to square one, only wit' reduced (or no) profits.
No, what Cing's doin' right now is best fo' them- undercutting vzw where they can, only on plans where t...
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The type of plan I'd like to see is a regional plan, where your anytime minutes are good in a geographical area. The local plans don't cover enough areas that I travel. The focus seems to be nationwide & local. I travel through Michigan, occasionally Ohio, Kentucky, but most of my travel is Wisconsin, Illinois, & Indiana. Verizon's local plan is northern half of Indiana, northern 2/3's of Illinois, and only Verizon's network in Iowa & Wisconsin for people in the Chicago market. I'm forced to get nationwide because the local doesn't include lower Michigan & Ohio.
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I cant believe no-ones mentioned churn yet. Everyone just tries to keep the customers they already have. Last qtr Cing was at 2.3% churn. With a cstmr base of 50mil+ thats a lot lost, hence cheaper call plans. Verizon 1.2% and almost 50mil, ergo, status quo thus far.
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dave73 said:
The type of plan I'd like to see is a regional plan, where your anytime minutes are good in a geographical area. The local plans don't cover enough areas that I travel. The focus seems to be nationwide & local. I travel through Michigan, occasionally Ohio, Kentucky, but most of my travel is Wisconsin, Illinois, & Indiana. Verizon's local plan is northern half of Indiana, northern 2/3's of Illinois, and only Verizon's network in Iowa & Wisconsin for people in the Chicago market. I'm forced to get nationwide because the local doesn't include lower Michigan & Ohio.
Just to let you know...Verizon did away with Local plans. Hint Hint. All plans are nationwide.
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Digital Pimp said:...dave73 said:
The type of plan I'd like to see is a regional plan, where your anytime minutes are good in a geographical area. The local plans don't cover enough areas that I travel. The focus seems to be nationwide & local. I travel through Michigan, occasionally Ohio, Kentucky, but most of my travel is Wisconsin, Illinois, & Indiana. Verizon's local plan is northern half of Indiana, northern 2/3's of Illinois, and only Verizon's network in Iowa & Wisconsin for people in the Chicago market. I'm forced to get nationwide because the local doesn't include lower Michigan & Ohio.
Just to let you know...Verizon did away with Local plans. Hint Hint. All plans are nati
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SystemShock said:...Digital Pimp said:dave73 said:
The type of plan I'd like to see is a regional plan, where your anytime minutes are good in a geographical area. The local plans don't cover enough areas that I travel. The focus seems to be nationwide & local. I travel through Michigan, occasionally Ohio, Kentucky, but most of my travel is Wisconsin, Illinois, & Indiana. Verizon's local plan is northern half of Indiana, northern 2/3's of Illinois, and only Verizon's network in Iowa & Wisconsin for people in the Chicago market. I'm forced to get nationwide because the local doesn't include lower Michigan & Ohio.
Just to let you know...Verizon did away with Local
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I checked fo' SoCal, where I am most of the time. The local plans DO exist here, like the link shows.
But fo' fun I changed the seach to Des Moines, Iowa, like you asked. No local plans. Humkay, so its regional. Some regions gots it, some don't. Interestin'.
But fo' fun I changed the seach to Des Moines, Iowa, like you asked. No local plans. Humkay, so its regional. Some regions gots it, some don't. Interestin'.
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SystemShock said:
I checked fo' SoCal, where I am most of the time. The local plans DO exist here, like the link shows.
But fo' fun I changed the seach to Des Moines, Iowa, like you asked. No local plans. Humkay, so its regional. Some regions gots it, some don't. Interestin'.
Yes, Most of the country is Nationwide. I'm surprised California still has local plans...there really isn't a need for them anymore. But Humkay, thanks for finding out the trueph' đ¤Ŗ
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So if Cingular's goal is to undercut Verizon, why do they not advertise these plans? Seems to counter your argument.
Why do they only market them to existing customers on $29.99 and $39.99 plans trying to get THEM to add a line. The typi9cal incremental revenue of a FT line is only $10. By doing this they are getting an extra line for $20-$30 more. That seems fairly profitable compared to only $10 extra.
And all carriers USED to offer regional plans.
Why do they only market them to existing customers on $29.99 and $39.99 plans trying to get THEM to add a line. The typi9cal incremental revenue of a FT line is only $10. By doing this they are getting an extra line for $20-$30 more. That seems fairly profitable compared to only $10 extra.
And all carriers USED to offer regional plans.
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texaswireless said:
So if Cingular's goal is to undercut Verizon, why do they not advertise these plans? Seems to counter your argument.
Not at all, an' thats been explained previously. Cing don' want to advertise those plans fo' fear of VZW matchin' them. Which would bring Cing back to square one, only wit' less (or no) profits. But theyre a good in-store 'save', so Cing will get away wit' what undercutting where they can. VZW ain't eager to cut their profits either, after all. They'll assess the results of Cing's undercuttin', an' respond only if they have to.
Why do they only market them to existing customers on $29.99 and $39.99 plans trying to get THEM to add a line.
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Do you honestly think that Cingular "not" advertising these plans somehow hides the fact that they exist from Verizon?
You keep making these assumptions based on nothing. Verizon isn't stupid. You say they don't advertise them to keep Verizon from matching yet Verizon knows they exist.
Logic Jake, come now.
You keep making these assumptions based on nothing. Verizon isn't stupid. You say they don't advertise them to keep Verizon from matching yet Verizon knows they exist.
Logic Jake, come now.
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texaswireless said:
Do you honestly think that Cingular "not" advertising these plans somehow hides the fact that they exist from Verizon?
lol, bro, do you honestly think that VZW don' know that advertised plans will have a much bigger impact than 'stealth' plans you see in the store only?
VZW is willin' to let Cing nibble a lil' bit on the customer add pie, since they don' wanna hurt their own profits by matchin' Cing's undercuttin'. But if Cing goes whole hog into an advertised price war, VZW will match. They have to. Neither carrier really wants a price war tho', fo' profit reasons.
You keep making these assumptions based on nothing.
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VZW is willing,
VZW aint't stupid
How do you have all this information? You are just a customer. You like to say we don't share opinions yet don't base yours on anything business related. You have no idea what VZW thinks or does nto think.
VZW aint't stupid
How do you have all this information? You are just a customer. You like to say we don't share opinions yet don't base yours on anything business related. You have no idea what VZW thinks or does nto think.
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I say nothin' that ain't common sense, 'gene. Why do you keep playin' dumb?
Is it 'cus the only thing you have to counter is that I don't have a wiretap on the CEO's phone? Kinda weak there, 'gene.
Is it 'cus the only thing you have to counter is that I don't have a wiretap on the CEO's phone? Kinda weak there, 'gene.
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PROVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING! TRY IT, IT IS SOMETHING YOU NEVER DO!
Texaswireless is right you are just speculation.
A bunch of opinion and not a single fact!
Texaswireless is right you are just speculation.
A bunch of opinion and not a single fact!
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Prove what YOUR sayin' then, bro. If you got facts that make a direct case against what I'm sayin', show 'em. Otherwise, your jus' complainin' 'bout my three of a' kind when you don' got a full house to beat it.
Sry if my common sense bugs ya. Its jus' an internet forum, nuthin' ta freak over. đ
Sry if my common sense bugs ya. Its jus' an internet forum, nuthin' ta freak over. đ
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texaswireless said:
This is getting old.
You speculate all you want. The pissing matches here are reminiscent of BetterThanJake and his logic.
Gunny and I figured that out a long time ago. SystemShock is BetterThanJake. Check their profiles and especially look at the last post for BetterThanJake and the first for SystemShock. The dates and times look eerily similar for this theory to be wrong.
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I love how sometimes he posts in ebonics, but sometimes he doesn't. What is up with that? If you want to have an M.O., do it consistantly or don't bother.
I just think it is funny how he wants to draw this into a Cingular vs. Verizon post. This particular issue has nothing to do with Verizon. Cingular is trying to gain subs within their current base. If they wanted to steal customers (potential or otherwise) from Verizon they would be advertising these plans.
I just think it is funny how he wants to draw this into a Cingular vs. Verizon post. This particular issue has nothing to do with Verizon. Cingular is trying to gain subs within their current base. If they wanted to steal customers (potential or otherwise) from Verizon they would be advertising these plans.
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texaswireless said:
I love how sometimes he posts in ebonics, but sometimes he doesn't. What is up with that? If you want to have an M.O., do it consistantly or don't bother.
I just think it is funny how he wants to draw this into a Cingular vs. Verizon post. This particular issue has nothing to do with Verizon. Cingular is trying to gain subs within their current base. If they wanted to steal customers (potential or otherwise) from Verizon they would be advertising these plans.
Personally, I think they should be advertising these plans. But, hey, what do I know.
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They really don't want to lower ARPU on new customers. Their goal is just to get existing single line users to add another line. It isn't much revenue, but an extra $20 to $30 a month from someone who wasn't interested in jumping up to the $70 FT plan is still worth while.
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texaswireless said:
I love how sometimes he posts in ebonics, but sometimes he doesn't. What is up with that? If you want to have an M.O., do it consistantly or don't bother.
Y'know, I'm gettin' awful tired of peeps whinin' an' cryin' 'bout how I talk/type.
I bust a lil' street like I'm used to, an' people cry 'bout how I'm allegedly axe-murderin' the English language, even tho' I bet they speak wit' a Boston or Southern or Fargo ND accent.. or wherever the hell theyre from. Or ignorin' the fact that if they don' like how I post, its sooooo easy fo' them NOT to click on it. Some people. đ
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So why not type this way all the time?
And I jumped into this because you twisted the posters original question and point with unrelated items.
And I jumped into this because you twisted the posters original question and point with unrelated items.
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texaswireless said:
So why not type this way all the time?
So why not refrain from whinin' 'bout how I type? It ain't too tough to figure out that I'm mo' comfortable talkin'/typin' street, so why cry 'bout it?
And I jumped into this because you twisted the posters original question and point with unrelated items.
Thas' your opinion, an' yours alone. Your welcome to it. I don' share it. đ
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I'm not whining, I just think it is funny. I haven't once told you to stop. The only whiner here about this is you dude. You can type all you want and I can laugh all I want.
So when the original poster asks two things, why Verizon doesn't have the plan and will thye get it and to please not turn this into a Verizon vs. Cingular post you think it is opinion. It's called respect jake.
So when the original poster asks two things, why Verizon doesn't have the plan and will thye get it and to please not turn this into a Verizon vs. Cingular post you think it is opinion. It's called respect jake.
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No, you cried 'bout how I'm not 'consistent', which is whining. Don' matter if you told me to stop or not, you made a crack, so own up to it, hater. đ
An' like you said, the original poster asked why Verizon don' have the low-end plan. I answered him. You didn't like my answer, so you've spent the last day cryin' 'bout my answer. I guess that explains your consistentcy fetish.. your very consistent 'bout cryin' a lot.
I haven't turned this into anything. You've turned it into a cing vs vzw fight 'cus you can't stand the thought that yep, Cing IS desperate right now. Hey, the numbers don' lie, Tex.. Cing is gettin' its head handed to it. They ARE undercuttin'. Why shouldn't they? Do you think Cing's top execs are stupid, an' would ...
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An' like you said, the original poster asked why Verizon don' have the low-end plan. I answered him. You didn't like my answer, so you've spent the last day cryin' 'bout my answer. I guess that explains your consistentcy fetish.. your very consistent 'bout cryin' a lot.
I haven't turned this into anything. You've turned it into a cing vs vzw fight 'cus you can't stand the thought that yep, Cing IS desperate right now. Hey, the numbers don' lie, Tex.. Cing is gettin' its head handed to it. They ARE undercuttin'. Why shouldn't they? Do you think Cing's top execs are stupid, an' would ...
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I laughed and wondering why you aren't. Are you going to start throwing toys now? I didn't even respond to you.
Instead of reading Low Rider or whatever rag is in your bathroom pick up some industry information. Subscribe to RCR or something like that. You continue to make these assertions yet they are not based on fact, and your opinion may be your but it is not very educmacated.
Sub growth is about a pissing match right now, plain and simple. It gives fodder for people who care like you. You want to keep pounding away at it like Midget boy, go ahead. There is one figure that matters, profit. Cingular is making it, Verizon is making it. Deal with it.
As an owner of a store who associates with owners of other stores (Verizo...
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Instead of reading Low Rider or whatever rag is in your bathroom pick up some industry information. Subscribe to RCR or something like that. You continue to make these assertions yet they are not based on fact, and your opinion may be your but it is not very educmacated.
Sub growth is about a pissing match right now, plain and simple. It gives fodder for people who care like you. You want to keep pounding away at it like Midget boy, go ahead. There is one figure that matters, profit. Cingular is making it, Verizon is making it. Deal with it.
As an owner of a store who associates with owners of other stores (Verizo...
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texaswireless said:
I laughed and wondering why you aren't. Are you going to start throwing toys now?
Ain't that somethin' a lil' shaver troll would say? C'mon Eugene, you can do better.
Instead of reading Low Rider or whatever rag is in your bathroom pick up some industry information. Subscribe to RCR or something like that. You continue to make these assertions yet they are not based on fact, and your opinion may be your but it is not very educmacated.
I read lots 'bout the industry, actually. Thats obvious from my posts. You shouldn't make assumptions that you obviously don' know nothin' about.
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Nice reply. BetterThanJake himself would be proud.
At least try not to be so obvious next time.
At least try not to be so obvious next time.
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Whatever, you say, Eugene. Next time, change it up a lil' an accuse me of bein' nextel18 or TenM.. I've heard those too. đ
Next time, don' hate jus' 'cus you don' agree. Haters are a dime-a-dozen on the 'net, after all.
Next time, don' hate jus' 'cus you don' agree. Haters are a dime-a-dozen on the 'net, after all.
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texaswireless said:
Nice reply. BetterThanJake himself would be proud.
At least try not to be so obvious next time.
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Hi Cam. You ain't posted in a month jus' about, an you came back jus' ta rag on lil' ol' me? Y'all make me feel loved.
You gonna call me Phonebabe69 or Jake or TenMidgets like ya did last time? I always got a kick outta how you could never make up yo' mind on dat. đ
You gonna call me Phonebabe69 or Jake or TenMidgets like ya did last time? I always got a kick outta how you could never make up yo' mind on dat. đ
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OK, so help me out on this one. What makes you decide to talk slang on one post but not on another? Is it the subject matter? Is the the person to which you are replying? Has it something to do with multiple personalities?
Curiousity has me on this one.
Curiousity has me on this one.
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Your memory ain't so good, considerin' we talked 'bout this jus' today:
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
Jus' want somethin' else to cry 'bout, 'gene?
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
Jus' want somethin' else to cry 'bout, 'gene?
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That didn't answer anything.
All you did on that post is cry how people don't like you posting in street or ebonics or whatever you do. I don't care how you want to say what you say, I am just curious as to why you do it sometimes and don't do it other times.
As you like to say, don't be a hater. You are hatin on my curiousity. I haven't cried or complained once about HOW you post, yet your immediate response to a question of WHY is happens sometimes and not others is to complain about people not liking it.
You tell people if they don't like it to not read your posts. I say if you don't like questions about it stop doing it, cause hatin on my curiousity makes no sense, bro.
All you did on that post is cry how people don't like you posting in street or ebonics or whatever you do. I don't care how you want to say what you say, I am just curious as to why you do it sometimes and don't do it other times.
As you like to say, don't be a hater. You are hatin on my curiousity. I haven't cried or complained once about HOW you post, yet your immediate response to a question of WHY is happens sometimes and not others is to complain about people not liking it.
You tell people if they don't like it to not read your posts. I say if you don't like questions about it stop doing it, cause hatin on my curiousity makes no sense, bro.
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lol, looks like I should call the police, 'gene. Cus you is tryin' to rob my flava, bigtime. đ
Could be the start of a trend.. 'rock the talk like SystemShock'. Gots a nice ring to it.
Far as your curiousity goes 'gene, I don' really care. Your like the 5 zillionth dude who's asked me why I talk the way I talk. After awhile, the questions, dey gets old. After awhile, you just gotta shrug an' say, "I post the way I likes, either you get it or you don'."
You can ask all you like, but don' expect me to answer. Talk to my press spokesman, lol. Peace.
Could be the start of a trend.. 'rock the talk like SystemShock'. Gots a nice ring to it.
Far as your curiousity goes 'gene, I don' really care. Your like the 5 zillionth dude who's asked me why I talk the way I talk. After awhile, the questions, dey gets old. After awhile, you just gotta shrug an' say, "I post the way I likes, either you get it or you don'."
You can ask all you like, but don' expect me to answer. Talk to my press spokesman, lol. Peace.
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Thats cool, and a better answer than before. I just wanted something instead of being lumped in with the haters who didn't like your style.
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If your honestly okay wit' someone expressin' themselves in a non-standard way, then thats a point fo' you, 'gene.
America's full of a lotta diff'rent people wit' a lotta diff'rent styles an' profiles.. so no tolerance equals no peace. That's just logic.
America's full of a lotta diff'rent people wit' a lotta diff'rent styles an' profiles.. so no tolerance equals no peace. That's just logic.
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Like I said before, never once have I discouraged or ripped your for HOW you choose to speak. I was always just curious as to why it was done selectively.
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SForsyth01 said:
Gunny and I figured that out a long time ago. SystemShock is BetterThanJake. Check their profiles and especially look at the last post for BetterThanJake and the first for SystemShock. The dates and times look eerily similar for this theory to be wrong.
lol, nope. The history's funny, tho'. đ
Long time back I complained about what a POS the Moto V260 was. Gunny said dat 'proved' I was 'jake' 'cus jake had once complained 'bout what a POS the Moto V265 was. Gunny didn't even notice we were talkin' bout diff'rent phones. Or that, considerin' what POSes both phones were, it weren't exactly unique that peeps would be complainin' bout 'em. đŗ
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WTF WORLD ARE YOU IN?
Cingular "good enough" you are out of your mind
You people act like Verizon is the Bentely of the cellular industry when it is far from it.
ALL CELL PROVIDERS ARE COMPETITIVE WITH ONE ANOTHER
For the record Verizon hasn't "smashed" Cingular quarter after quarter
Cingular "good enough" you are out of your mind
You people act like Verizon is the Bentely of the cellular industry when it is far from it.
ALL CELL PROVIDERS ARE COMPETITIVE WITH ONE ANOTHER
For the record Verizon hasn't "smashed" Cingular quarter after quarter
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What world am I in? Why the real one, a'course bro. How 'bout you? đ
An' for the record, yeah, Verizon has beaten Cing pretty soundly for a few quarters now. They more than doubled Cing in net adds last quarter, an' had about half the churn. Quarter previous, wasn't much better fo' Cing.
I don' know 'bout 'smashed', but when you lose by over a million net adds in jus' one quarter, that ain't even close, now is it?
An' for the record, yeah, Verizon has beaten Cing pretty soundly for a few quarters now. They more than doubled Cing in net adds last quarter, an' had about half the churn. Quarter previous, wasn't much better fo' Cing.
I don' know 'bout 'smashed', but when you lose by over a million net adds in jus' one quarter, that ain't even close, now is it?
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The reason Verizon won in customer adds, was because of their new EV-DO service with Vcast
Cingular did not move out of desperation, but merely in a competitive manor.
Cingular did not move out of desperation, but merely in a competitive manor.
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GinniUA said:
The reason Verizon won in customer adds, was because of their new EV-DO service with Vcast
No. EVDO is great, but comparitively few people are usin' it. It ain't a major draw yet.
Also, the real problem has been more Cingular declining net adds, not Verizon's increasing net adds. Verizon's been hangin in the 1.65-1.9 million net adds territory for awhile now.. no big increases or 'EVDO bump'. But Cing's net adds have fallen off a cliff- from 1.8 million about a year ago to 860,000 or so last quarter. That's what's really caused the gap.
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Cingular could give a million minutes a month for $10. What good is it if the phone does not work 90% time. Verizon is the best service, plain and simple.
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tourman said:
Cingular could give a million minutes a month for $10. What good is it if the phone does not work 90% time. Verizon is the best service, plain and simple.
Cingular ain't so awful (in most places anyway) that undercutting on price can't help 'em some.
Look at T-mobile.. they gots less network an' higher churn than even Cingular, an' yet they still stay in the game by bein' the low-price national. In some places they are 'good enough', an' the low price throws 'em over the top.. whatever works, knowhumimsayin?
Your right 'bout Verizon tho'.. they is the best service the majority of the time, so they don' have to play the pricin' game as aggressively as some.
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Yes, I started out with a "Family Plan" back in May of this year and had a $59.99 /mth plan , I decided to change my plan in October to the $69.99 plan , My VZW bill is now getting to high , so I called VZW to lower my plan , they said "to keep competitive with other cellular providers , the $59.99 plan is no longer available". I now know I BETTER keep my plan as is if I up if to the next one up, then in 2/3 months the $69.99 plan will no longer be available.
I like Verizon Wireless, coverage and features.
I DON'T Like the , Bill, speed of Mobile Web and my Motorola v710.
I saw a website that had a TWEAK of the VZW banner " We Never Stop Working For You" the banner said " We Never Stop Ripping You Off".
Ain't it the truth , but yo...
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I like Verizon Wireless, coverage and features.
I DON'T Like the , Bill, speed of Mobile Web and my Motorola v710.
I saw a website that had a TWEAK of the VZW banner " We Never Stop Working For You" the banner said " We Never Stop Ripping You Off".
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If your bill is getting too high it sounds like you need more minutes, not less. Your bill does not "get higher" unless you go over minutes or text or something like that.
I love those who say VZW is ripping you off. How?? By providing the best coverage and the best customr service in the industry? Yeah sounds like a rip off to me.
I love those who say VZW is ripping you off. How?? By providing the best coverage and the best customr service in the industry? Yeah sounds like a rip off to me.
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vzw will allow you to renew on your current family share plan. just make sure they know that is what you want to do. if they say no, tell them to check the pocies, it is a new policy in place due to the family share price increase
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Verizon will allow you to change your plan at anytime, but when you do that, you extend your contract. If you're on a 2 year contract and you have 6 months left on both phones, wait until the contract is up, or 22 months for the primary line to be eligible for an upgrade. That's why I've been telling my mom to not change her plan just yet, because she's eligible for an upgrade now, but VZW keeps calling her to change her plan, and I say wait until you upgrade your phone to do it. Otherwise she's stuck with her Nokia until late 2007 or early 2008, depending on how soon she might change her plan before the upgrade.
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You get your upgrade no matter what. So change your price plan, it might extend your contract, but won't extend your upgrade.
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dave73 said:
Verizon will allow you to change your plan at anytime, but when you do that, you extend your contract. If you're on a 2 year contract and you have 6 months left on both phones, wait until the contract is up, or 22 months for the primary line to be eligible for an upgrade. That's why I've been telling my mom to not change her plan just yet, because she's eligible for an upgrade now, but VZW keeps calling her to change her plan, and I say wait until you upgrade your phone to do it. Otherwise she's stuck with her Nokia until late 2007 or early 2008, depending on how soon she might change her plan before the upgrade.
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LOL - ahhhh Cingular should be ashamed of their network, Do I need to point out Consumer Reports again?
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barryefau said:
LOL - ahhhh Cingular should be ashamed of their network, Do I need to point out Consumer Reports again?
lol...ahhhh - my Cingular phone has been getting better signal than my Verizon phone for the past couple of months. So, go ahead, bring it up. đ
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Which verizon phone and which area. BEcause sure every once and a while there is a ten foot diamater circle where cingular works a little better than verizon. I would guess you either have a water damaged phone or it has been dropped and the antenna has come a little loose. But like i said there are a few instances where cingular does work a little better but most people like the ability to move around and i gaurantee that verizon will work in more places more often.
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i can here me now said:
Which verizon phone and which area. BEcause sure every once and a while there is a ten foot diamater circle where cingular works a little better than verizon. I would guess you either have a water damaged phone or it has been dropped and the antenna has come a little loose. But like i said there are a few instances where cingular does work a little better but most people like the ability to move around and i gaurantee that verizon will work in more places more often.
Oh, I would guess you are WRONG!!!! My phone is not water damaged nor does it have a loose antenna. It is a brand f***ing new Samsung a970, and before that I had a LG VX8100, and before that, an e815. All 3 phones we...
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and yea the moto e815 is REALLY the top rated phone đ .
let's not forget consumer reports is full of it. đ
let's not forget consumer reports is full of it. đ
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sowhatsowhat10 said:
let's not forget consumer reports is full of it. đ
Not really. I have plenty o' friends who are really happy that they used Consumer Reports when it came time to buy a car.
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sowhatsowhat10 said:
and yea the moto e815 is REALLY the top rated phone đ .
let's not forget consumer reports is full of it. đ
I think the 815 is one of the best phones we sell... IF you find one that doesn't have gliches, they're great.. my ex went through three of them in a week because they kept freezing and shutting themselves off.. thank god for the one-year warranty..
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I was talking to the Cingular agent earlier at the mall I work at and he said that both of the plans would be gone in Feb, fwiw...
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Verizon is not the Wal-Mart of cell phones. You really can't compare prices with them.
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HEY svec7186, whats there to be ashamed about???????? For those of you that flip burgers, In which I think you do! I'm sure you have or should have Cingular! For those that flip Filets, I can guarantee have VERIZON! Would you rather pay $59.99 for a Hamburger? or $69.99 for a Filet??? My suggestion to you is if you are not already, maybe you should apply at Burger King!!!
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