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Verizon to be #2 carrier once AGAIN

Kevhall

Mar 21, 2011, 9:47 AM
I was a Verizon customer for 6 years. I upgraded my pearl to a droid x last December. After comparing the data speeds of the inspire 4G I paid the ETF and went to AT&T. The service is identical. The data speeds are much faster. Once AT&T gets tmobiles network and customers that will leave Verizon miles and miles behind. Verizon is good at making their customers think they have the best when in reality it's not and now they can't even come close.
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 21, 2011, 9:53 AM
You obviously have no clue. It will take at least a year to approve the merger and then a year to two to integrate. By then VZW will have a fully operational nationwide 4G network.

Sadly you left, paid an ETF and will be using a slow phone once LTE is in your area if it already isn't. at@t is doing this because without it they have too little spectrum to compete with 4G.
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Kevhall

Mar 21, 2011, 10:16 AM
I do understand. Verizon is not going to have LTE fully up and running in 12 months. That's funny. AT&T is launching LTe regardless and they just wanted to turn the volume up all the way. There's nothing Verizon can do now. Combine AT&T's 94 million wireless customers and tmobiles 42 million and you have a monster Verizon will never beat.

AT&T is already the largest telecommunications company in the world, and in 12 months the largest wireless company in the US. They were only behind Verizon by half a million anyway. The iPhone on Verizon didn't do nothing for them.
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Victek

Mar 21, 2011, 10:56 AM
What is so often lost in these discussions is the only thing that really matters, which is the signal where you live. I switched from Tmobile to Verizon because I got tired of having to step outside my house to use my phone. Regarding AT&T I helped a customer recently who uses an AT&T Cellular Modem on his laptop. He could barely get one bar of signal, while my Verizon phone had four bars inside his office. This is how it is in my area. Hopefully AT&T and Tmobile do better elsewhere, but it doesn't matter what any of these companies offer if they don't first provide the signal where you need it.
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Jayshmay

Mar 22, 2011, 11:41 AM
Precisely! Everybody on here is always talking about largest carrier this & that. Coverage where you live is what matters most. I live in Las Vegas, and all carriers seem to have fine coverage all over the Las Vegas area.
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 21, 2011, 11:19 AM
You are clueless aren't you? at@t hasn't done squat to date with LTE while VZW has. By year end 2013 VZW will have LTE covering their entire footprint. VZW already has it up and running and knows how to operate it, at@t doesn't. T-Mobile will not invest another dime into improving their network if they are being bought out so at@t will have to upgrade their network and T-Mobile's which will cost Billions.

Next point you fail to understand is that they will also need to close the deal which will take a year IF it even gets approval. This marks 2012 before they can start doing squat with T-Mobile. The current at@t plans for 4G LTE are minuscule as it is.

Will at@t be bigger? Yes they will. Will at@t just waltz in and blow the world away...
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Kevhall

Mar 21, 2011, 11:47 AM
You think AT&T hasnt done squat. Wrong. Ground work is there for LTE plus HSPA+ is up and running and averaging faster speeds anyway. Incase you didn't know AT&T is GSM and not nearly as much has to be done for LTE. Download your speed test apps and then let's compare and talk.

It won't take long for AT&T and tmobiles network to work as one. With both being GSM. That footprint will KILL VERIZON'S! AT&T already covers 97% of the population. Just accept that your little Verizon network will be the runner up!!!
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 21, 2011, 1:50 PM
You want to compare your phone to my HTC Thunderbolt in a speed test????? You might want to do your research before your device goes up in smoke trying to keep up with its outdated HSPA+ chip;)
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Jayshmay

Mar 22, 2011, 11:49 AM
I'm curious, have you d/l a song using the AmazonMP3 app on your Thunderbolt yet? I'm just curious how long it takes, I think I heard its suppose to take something like 15 seconds to d/l one song. It takes about 2 minutes to d/l a song over Rev.A
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:14 PM
Truer words were ne'er spoken. Reminds me of the Bugs Bunny cartoon where Bugs beats Cecil Turtle in the race and brags about speeding and Cecil brings the traffic cop over to give him a speeding ticket. Louder kid. What did you say? The merger should not be approved by DoJ or FTC because it will create a "monster"? Got it. Thanks.
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Kevhall

Mar 21, 2011, 10:54 AM
AT&T already is #1, ha!
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 21, 2011, 11:24 AM
Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick are you clueless or what!

Go to each companies website and you will see the numbers. at@t has a total of 95 million including connected devices. Verizon Wireless has 101 million including connected devices. There is currently a 5.5-6 million customer difference.
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 11:30 AM
http://news.vzw.com/news/2011/01/pr2011-01-25.html »

VZW is 102.2mil.. I wanted to see where he got his info from so then I could 'kindly' educate him about the differences. 😈
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Kevhall

Mar 21, 2011, 11:42 AM
You're all brainwashed. Include your direct wireless customers, not connections.

Here's the link
Http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376740, 00.asp#
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 11:53 AM
I don't see ATTs wireless subscribers.. where did you find them?
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Kevhall

Mar 21, 2011, 11:57 AM
5th paragraph
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 12:03 PM
Sorry I'm on my phone and its a little show responding to threads like this.. see my other response.
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 12:04 PM
Oh I did miss that.. multi tasking FTL..
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 12:01 PM
I found it for you:
http://www.corp.att.com/emea/insights/pr/eng/q4_2701 ... »

[I]Best-Ever Subscriber Gain. AT&T posted a net gain in total wireless subscribers of 2.8 million, to reach 95.5 million in service, the best net gain in the company’s history. Full-year wireless net adds totaled 8.9 million (adjusted for mergers and acquisitons), the company’s best-ever annual total. Fourth-quarter net add growth reflects rapid adoption of smartphones, increases in prepaid subscribers, strength in the reseller channel and a record quarter in connected devices such as eReaders, security systems, fleet management and a host of other products. AT&T also had a another strong tablet quarter, a new growth area for the company. It added 4...
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Kevhall

Mar 21, 2011, 12:13 PM
Won't matter soon enough! 140 million! Wow! Holy cow! What a network!
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 12:17 PM
IF its approved by the FCC/DoJ/powers that be.. Did you see how much the FCC put VZW through with the Alltel buyout?
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OrionsVantage

Mar 21, 2011, 5:00 PM
If you join AT&T's 3g network with T-Mobiles 3g network, you STILL get a smaller 3g network than verizon AND they're both behind the curve on LTE. more consumers doesn't always mean better.
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:32 PM
They didn't put Verizon through enough though. Verizon violated it's agreement not to touch Alltel for 10 years following the merger which created the company in the first place and the FCC and Justice rubber stamped it. With that precedent...
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 21, 2011, 1:47 PM
You know what they say. You can take two big piles of crap and put them together and all you have is a bigger pile of crap;)

If this goes through it will not be without hurdles and defecting customers. I am pretty sure VZW will come out fine and survive as the best provider with the second largest customer base.
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:38 PM
This guy is a tool but the basic premise he makes is legitimate: Verizon, get USED to being number two if this goes through.
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:28 PM
Archer: 1
Kevhall: 0

If that's as gracious as you can be in defeat... 🙄
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 21, 2011, 1:55 PM
Man, you kill me. You are the poster child for why not to go to at@t 😲
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 2:25 PM
Well they say it takes a big man to admit he is wrong.. apparently that's not him lol... I wouldn't be mean except he came here just to flame then got beat at his own game.
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Jayshmay

Mar 22, 2011, 11:52 AM
At least you use links to backup what you say, instead of just saying it.
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Archer Bullseye

Mar 21, 2011, 11:28 AM
Could you link where you found that info instead of just posting random numbers?
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dj89

Mar 21, 2011, 5:08 PM
Well, that includes AT&T's broadband cards, without including Verizon's.

You're the AT&T version of DiamondPro.
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:41 PM
That's mean. Game. Set. Match.
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mellowlen62

Mar 21, 2011, 6:50 PM
Doesn't take much to get you using exclamation points and smiley faces, does it? what are you, 12? Or does At&t pay you for the advertising? Such a stupid post. Grow up. No one cares.
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ArmySF

Mar 21, 2011, 6:53 PM
Brand new account going for broke with a bad troll post.
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:42 PM
Who do you think it really is? bluecoyote?
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lauranmc

Mar 21, 2011, 8:01 PM
well if verizon is number 2 then so be it, i would rather have perfect coverage data text no dropped calls, etc. than be with #1. I have no complaints at all....i will stick with what works..VERIZON
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:47 PM
...but Verizon doesn't have that. No one does. If Verizon works best for you then you are doing the right thing staying put, but make no mistake... Despite the hype they are not head and shoulders above AT&T and never have been.
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 11:08 PM
Hey. Ummmmmmm...thanks for gloating...I mean sharing.
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johnnyb0810

Mar 22, 2011, 9:46 AM
This has been a rather enjoyable thread. No epik at all but still quite enjoyable. The one thing that seems to elude a lot of people and was only mentioned once here... some tmo customers are there for pricing. If sprint is in their area and has legit coverage those customers will not stick around for the higher voice requirements. With a higher customer base, more calls are free for the customers, meaning potentially even higher costs than there are now. Meaning, comparatively, Verizon could be cheaper.

Admittedly they are a little higher at the moment due to the $30 family text being part of the calling plan and ineligible for lower plans than 700. But who is to say that at&t will keep the competetive pricing with what they think will ...
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epik

Mar 22, 2011, 4:06 PM
I'm around, just staying away from this inane conversation (who's number one and two). Its pure fanboy conversation... a pissing contest.
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texaswireless

Mar 22, 2011, 5:41 PM
This isn't going to pass regulatory approval anyways, at least not in it's current form. Considering there is still 700 Mhz bandwidth available for sale they are going to have a hard time proving lack of spectrum as the reason to eliminate a national carrier.
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Azeron

Mar 22, 2011, 7:41 PM
The whole deal stinks.
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Jayshmay

Mar 22, 2011, 11:31 AM
How much data do you use? Cause ATT doesn't like people who use more than 2gb's/mo. Which I consider to be the same as NOTHING. I consider ATT's rate plan to be discouraging for smartphones.
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Cellular Phone

Mar 22, 2011, 7:41 PM
Verizon's network still has more coverage than AT&T and T-Mobile's networks combined. Compare the coverage maps for their native networks, and you'll see.
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navydave

Mar 22, 2011, 11:06 PM
I believe it was Avis that claimed they were #2, and they would try harder to get your business. Who cares and whats the point. What I want is a phone thats works first time every time. the price is important but a cheap price on cheap service is not a bargain. Those who can get by with Sprint go for it if cheap is all you care about. Where I live Sprint is almost as big a joke as TM. You can hate Big Red if it makes you feel smarter or cooler. But on the coast of Oregon it works best with fewer dead spots and dropped calls. As far as AT&T it reminds me a Robert Hall suit. Cheaply made and poor fitting.
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