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Oooh this is eff'd up!!! The Droid X becomes a brick if you try to access the bootloader!

Jayshmay

Jul 15, 2010, 8:54 AM
I read in the link below that if you try to access the bootloader on the Droid X (likely the Droid 2 also) that the boot files will get corrupted, and it won't be able to turn on!!! I really wish these corporation would learn that once a consumer pays for something with their own $ that it's their property!

A lot of you on Phone Scoop tend to support corporations rights over consumer rights, but I think this should be a lawsuit against Motorola for essentially controlling a piece of property that !!BELONGS!! to the consumer!

Plus this is totally against the supposed oppeness of Android!

Here's the link:

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/14/droid-x-actua ... »
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Menno

Jul 15, 2010, 11:06 AM
people on phonescoop dont support corporation's rights over individual's rights, we argue that corporations have a right to do business, and that taking the consumers side in any disagreement isn't right. If a company makes an unpopular change, they will either suffer for it and see the error of their ways, lose customers and continue, or go out of business. there's a pretty significant difference.

And the guy who broke that story said that the efuse is actually in all OMAP processor devices, but up until now hasn't been turned on. we won't know if the droid's is really turned on or not until someone has root.
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kevinski

Jul 15, 2010, 9:19 PM
I doubt that it's anything worthy of leading to a lawsuit. Really, it's nice when the community can indefinitely support any piece of equipment, but it's not as though any manufacturer is obligated to let you tamper with its hardware and software. If you do, then you're voiding the warranty, anyway. As long as you do your homework as to which phones are locked down and which ones aren't, then you should know which devices you should purchase and avoid.
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justmarried

Jul 15, 2010, 10:25 PM
Lawsuit??? Really?? LMAO....is it that serious?
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CellStudent

Jul 16, 2010, 11:28 AM
You can label me a fanboi for this thread if you want, but I'd like to shed another perspective on things.

Jay, what are you going to do when your rooted Droid burns up an crashes because you overclocked it to 1.2 GHz and fried the motherboard or processor?

a) Suck it up and go buy a new one for $600
b) Walk in Verizon and demand a warranty replacement for your flawed device

How is any store tech supposed to be able to tell by looking at your phone (dead, unable to power on) and determine you jailbroke/rooted it and tell you to go suck an egg?

I completely agree that boot-loadable Androids are an important part of the ope ecosystem, but I think it's totally fair to say that carriers and manufacturers should have a right to res...
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Jayshmay

Jul 16, 2010, 11:35 AM
Your 3rd to last paragraph I understand about companies loosing $ on warranties.

And btw, I'm not brave enough to root. Menno is brave AND qualified enough to do it, I'm not. If someone is going to root they really, really have to know what their doing!
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texaswireless

Jul 16, 2010, 12:13 PM
Nothing wrong with a little bit of logic. Consumer rights versus corporate rights? Give me a break.

YES, you can do anything you want to your phone. NO the manufacturer/carrier is under no obligation to fix it for you when you screw it up.
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Menno

Jul 16, 2010, 1:01 PM
Good post. This is why I have insurance on my device.

There are ways to make it easy to see if a phone is rooted (on the nexus one, once you root, it's easy to see) but if the device is turned off it's a bit harder.

I agree that people who mess up their rooted phone have no right to demand any warranty service. but at the same time, for Verizon, the developer phone WAS the droid.

I understand why the carriers and handset makers do it, but if they gave me an option to un-sign the bootloader if I signed away my warranty, I would take it, and I know a lot of others who would as well.

I think there needs to be a balance because atm, if you want a Dev phone like motorola suggests you find, you're stuck with Tmobile or ATT, and neith...
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PhoneyName

Jul 17, 2010, 6:03 PM
According to Engadget, the phone won't actually brick, it will just refuse to boot until you put the proper software back in.
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