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lorna

May 29, 2010, 9:35 PM
Well, to make a long story short, I am back at researching for a Verizon phone.

If I cannot find anything, I will accept the LG VX8360 that has been offered.

But now since I have to pay $9.95 more, I might as well look among the rest of the phones which I earlier did not look at.

The one thing I can say is that the several people who have been emailing me trying to help have been so very good and doing their best for me.

-Lorna
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mellowlen62

May 30, 2010, 11:23 AM
I know you really want a simple flip phone, but if you are going to go ahead and get one which requires the $9.99 data, my advice to you would be skip it and go for an android phone. If you can pay the $30, believe me, for $1 a day you get SO much for your money. The talking GPS, in my opinion, is worth the price alone, and I have so much more at my fingertips with my Eris. I felt the same way you did for a long time, and I never felt the need for data, but all I can say is it is money very well spent and you might be very unhappy with what you get to do for $9.99. It's not very much and those phones, in my opinion, are extremely frustrating to use.
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lorna

May 30, 2010, 11:53 AM
I will take a look at that Eris. About the GPS, yes, I know that it is handy and that I would use it, but the phone I now have actually has GPS. What I discovered last night was that someone called me and it never rang! I found out when checking for voice mail.

$30 a month for a bunch of features that I will not use is a lot, though. And I would only use the GPS once in a while.

Lorna
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Menno

May 31, 2010, 12:04 AM
With android phones, if you are surfing the net, listening to music, or using the gps and someone calls, you'll get the call dialog up on the screen and the ring. If you accept the call it pauses the data session.
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lorna

May 31, 2010, 12:23 AM
Menno.......

Those android phones sound amazing, but my track record shows that I use the cellular for talking, and most of that talking is done on speakerphone.

Thus, Verizon is sending a new LG VX-8360 to me and I will return the LG VX-5600 Accolade with the bad, bad speakerphone and the too-low volume.

Cross your fingers for me while I hope that my conversations on the LG VX8360 speakerphone will be clear and loud enough.

The other night I called a Take Out restaurant on my LG VX5600 Accolade and the fellow at the other end kept asking me to repeat what I was ordering. The Accolade does not work for me and I am surprised that it gets such high ratings in the reviews.

-Lorna
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Menno

May 31, 2010, 12:39 AM
Basic phones, unless they are Push-To-Talk capable devices, will have crappy speakers.

The best basic phone speakerphones at the moment are:
Casio Rock
Motorola Barrage
or Samsung Convoy

Because they are all push to talk phones, and thus the speakerphone is considered important

For all other entry level (and most mid range) devices, handset makers include Bluetooth instead.

The ONLY other time (except for PTT phones) you'll find a decent speakerphone is on a device that is made to play music, or on high end smartphones (again, for music)

Most companies found that a good quality speaker phone wasn't selling devices, and was just adding more to the cost, unless the phone was used for music, and then the speaker could sell the...
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lorna

May 31, 2010, 1:15 AM
Menno, I am feeling like some wind got knocked out of me. I sure hope that my speakerphone won't be that bad.

I do have a Bluetooth earbud from my first cell phone, a Nokia, but those earbuds are good for people who are constantly on the phone, unlike me.

Thanks for sharing that information, even though it is somewhat discouraging. I appreciate your honesty with civility.

Lorna
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f38urry

May 31, 2010, 4:11 PM
Menno,

You wrote: "Voice isn't profitable anymore, data is."

That's very true. But even more profitable, because it costs the carrier virtually NOTHING, is text messaging. It's outrageously priced and should be provided as part of the basic calling plan. People wouldn't be so teed off at the mandatory $9.99 data package for the newly renamed "feature phones" if that were the case.
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Archer Bullseye

May 31, 2010, 6:36 PM
Just because SMS costs 'nothing' to transport doesn't mean it should be free. When you go to a movie do you expect to get into the movie for free because it costs 'nothing' for them to show the movie to you? Do you demand free popcorn because it costs 'nothing'?

Now, please explain how SMS costs VZW 'nothing'...
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Amarantamin

May 31, 2010, 7:16 PM
Hehe, on that note, I used to work at a movie theatre; we paid approx. $8.00 per bag of popcorn seed, and each bag of seed lasted approx. 60 Large-size bags of popcorn. We charged $5.50 each per large bag of popcorn.

Now, on that note, the theatre had to rent any movie it wanted to show, and the money used to rent the movie was very rarely made back in ticket sales. A large part (%40, according to corporate) of the concession sales went to paying off the cost of having the movies in the theatre.

Despite this, corporate still made a ton of money, and those of us actually running concessions made minimum wage. Gotta love corporate life!
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Cellenator

May 31, 2010, 7:19 PM
When I use to go to the movies I would basically spend all day there, pay for one movie and watch a double feature!

I would not choose the lg 8360! The MOTOROLA BARRAGE has the best speaker phone, and no rip off data. People don't listen! 🙄
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Archer Bullseye

May 31, 2010, 7:59 PM
Your saying what I am saying. Just because the upfront cost is very small doesn't mean that the backend doesn't cost money. They had to build the network, and they have to build future networks..
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Amarantamin

May 31, 2010, 8:12 PM
Oh, yeah. I wasn't trying to prove a point or anything, just saying. But you are correct. 🙂
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Archer Bullseye

May 31, 2010, 9:18 PM
Haha.. This is PS. We are not allowed to agree on anything. 😛
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Amarantamin

May 31, 2010, 10:09 PM
I disagree, I feel that we can agree on things.
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f38urry

May 31, 2010, 8:54 PM
Archer Bullseye,

When I go to a movie and use the bathroom, I don't expect them to charge me extra for its use. All it costs them is the minimum wage worker to clean it, some water, toilet paper, and electricity for the lights.

Since you asked, here's what David Pougue, the Tech columnist for the NY Times had to say last year about text messaging cost ripoff:

TEXT-MESSAGING FEES Why has the price of a text message gone to 20 cents, from 10, in two years? There was no big technology shift. There was no spike in the cost of electrons.

And speaking of anticompetitive: Isn’t it a little fishy that all four big United States carriers raised their text-message fees at essentially the same time?

Furthermore, why do text mess
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Amarantamin

May 31, 2010, 8:58 PM
Really? One text message uses 61 MILLION times as much data as an equally sized email message?

I call bull. If I send an email at 20kb, I do not believe the text version is 1,220,000,000kb (Or, 1.22 TERABYTES) of data.
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Amarantamin

May 31, 2010, 9:01 PM
I understand what said blogger is saying now. I still believe his calculations inaccurate, but he wasn't stating the data cost of a text to email, it was the monetary cost to the customer. Sorry about that.
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Menno

May 31, 2010, 8:50 PM
Because it is in customer's nature to be pissed off, no matter what the cause. If it wasn't required data on multimedia phones, they would still be complaining about required data on blackberries.
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