What if Apple...?
I've been thinking about the rumor of Apple creating a CDMA Iphone. What if they are waiting for Verizon to open their network to other devices and are planning to sell the CDMA Iphone directly to consumers? The rumor I've heard is that Verizon turned down the Iphone because Apple wanted a cut of the monthly data revenue. If Apple sells directly to the consumer then they should be able to collect that monthly fee directly, no? Hmmmmm...
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No, because unless they are planning on launching an apple cellphone service, if they make a CDMA phone that launches on the verizon network, it will still be verizon plans. If they sell it "unlocked" it will mean that verizon doesn't have them in stores, and apple will get the full retail price. But as far as monthly subscriptions go, Verizon would still get the full amount.
Selling a phone on an "open" verizon network will be like activating an unlocked phone on a gsm network.
Selling a phone on an "open" verizon network will be like activating an unlocked phone on a gsm network.
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Verizon wouldn't receive the "full amount" per se, but that's true in principal. Blackberry, for example, gets a portion of the 29.99 monthly feature, which is why they sibsidized the original 44.99 (which used to be standard across the board). Furthermore, those who use wireless sync with 44.99 plan on WinMo products, Nokia receives a small portion monthly. (Nokia is the manufacturer of Verizon's Wireless Sync technology). HOWEVER, if Apple DID NOT create some sort of agreement with the CDMA iPhone, then Verizon would receive the full amount based on the assumption that it is simply an unlocked phone. (i.e. switching over a Palm Treo from Sprint to Verizon; yes it can be done but your data won't work properly). If Apple wanted to make the t...
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Maybe, I am not understanding. If Verizon has to open it's network to Apple and say a customer signs up with no contract choosing an Nationwide Select 900 with Email and Web. Customer is paying $79.99 plus $29.99. Then Apple charges another $15 dollars per month for that customer to use the Iphone's applications. What am I missing? Verizon refused to share monthly data revenues with Apple so by selling directly to the customer Apple still gets those revenues. On an "Open Network" there is nothing Verizon can do about it. You tell me that customer's won't pay full retail for a CDMA Iphone? Really? REally!? Seriously, you don't know anyone who would?
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It will never happen that way no one in there right mind would want to pay a extra $15 a month to apple it is a peace of crap anyways the storm or hell any bberry is so so so much better
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The Storm or any Blackberry may be so so much better... This not a pissing contest. I own a 8330 with VZW. I'm not here to play that game with anyone. Just wondering how Apple can do this. I think there is a market for a CDMA Iphone.
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you.CAN.hear.me.now said:
Verizon wouldn't receive the "full amount" per se, but that's true in principal. Blackberry, for example, gets a portion of the 29.99 monthly feature, which is why they sibsidized the original 44.99 (which used to be standard across the board). .
Wouldn't say that is necessarily true, because sprint includes Blackberry services with the simply unlimited plan for free.
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They still owe BB a portion of that revenue. At one point with VZW it was 10% of the BB plan every month (so $3 or $4.50 per month). On plans that showed up as "$0.00" data because they are bundled in it was the calculated worth ($80 bundle = $40 data worthiness = $4/month, etc.)
I don't know what it is now, that was long ago. But, It'd be a good guess to say Sprint has something similar in terms of agreement.
I don't know what it is now, that was long ago. But, It'd be a good guess to say Sprint has something similar in terms of agreement.
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There WILL, however, be an LTE iPhone that will run on VZW's 700MHz bands in the open-mandated C block.
Mark my words. Look for it Christmas 2010.
Mark my words. Look for it Christmas 2010.
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llama said:
That may expalin the rush by VZW to LTE...
Not quite. Inability to support efficient voice transmission over the 3G CDMA network explains the rush to LTE. New classes of open device are just a side-effect.
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