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Blackberry Storm among top 10 flops in 2008

AvgJoe

Dec 31, 2008, 10:55 AM
http://www.switched.com/2008/12/31/top-tech-flops-of ... »


I never said I told you so......but I told you so. Verizon simply is not on the leading edge of the phone side of things. Never were. apparently never will be.
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mycool

Dec 31, 2008, 11:02 AM
You do realize that some of us can't go to that link, so it's usually a good idea to copy/paste the article (and source) in the post.
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cwcanty

Dec 31, 2008, 11:09 AM
I do have to say, that RIM did completely botch this release. For their first ever touch screen they should have delayed it till the software was flawless. The bad press they got by shoving it out the date was very damaging.

Also, I thought it was interesting that mobile me was #3 on that list....which is an iphone related product...and the iphone is on att...which I heard you're a fan of 🙂

I also don't think the G1 shouldve been on that list. That device is very new, and yes, it has its bugs. But google did a pretty good job for their first time building an OS. No way the G1 was a flop...hell I just read that they might sell over 1 million units before the end of the year.
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AvgJoe

Jan 1, 2009, 1:24 AM
cwcanty said:
I do have to say, that RIM did completely botch this release. For their first ever touch screen they should have delayed it till the software was flawless. The bad press they got by shoving it out the date was very damaging.

Also, I thought it was interesting that mobile me was #3 on that list....which is an iphone related product...and the iphone is on att...which I heard you're a fan of 🙂

I also don't think the G1 shouldve been on that list. That device is very new, and yes, it has its bugs. But google did a pretty good job for their first time building an OS. No way the G1 was a flop...hell I just read that they might sell over 1 million units before the end of the year.



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Phantom1359

Jan 1, 2009, 6:16 PM
I was starting to wonder where you vanished too. Touchscreens do work with the screen protector you just have to realize you have to get through it (and for some people they try too hard). I do agree with Chris that they rushed it WAY too much...it should have been perfected before pushed and there have been too many problems; however, the sales figures have also been up there (but that doesn't include returns and exchanges).

As for the touchscreen fad...sadly in this country, once it catches on...it'll be here for about 10 years or so. What's interesting is the LG vx9600 that's coming with "attachments". So now you have to carry a bag of accessories with your phone.
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AvgJoe

Jan 2, 2009, 5:18 PM
Phantom1359 said:
I was starting to wonder where you vanished too. Touchscreens do work with the screen protector you just have to realize you have to get through it (and for some people they try too hard). I do agree with Chris that they rushed it WAY too much...it should have been perfected before pushed and there have been too many problems; however, the sales figures have also been up there (but that doesn't include returns and exchanges).

As for the touchscreen fad...sadly in this country, once it catches on...it'll be here for about 10 years or so. What's interesting is the LG vx9600 that's coming with "attachments". So now you have to carry a bag of accessories with your phone.

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vinsideguy

Jan 5, 2009, 12:20 PM
They should come with an LG purse. Or a backpack. That'd be awesome.
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sangyup81

Dec 31, 2008, 11:22 AM
Perhaps they were taking it too far with this one
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cwcanty

Dec 31, 2008, 11:35 AM
Blackberry Magnum is the codename for the bold like device with a touch screen....should be out before the end of the year for GSM networks.
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IamTheGodfather

Jan 7, 2009, 8:35 AM
cwcanty said:
Blackberry Magnum is the codename for the bold like device with a touch screen....should be out before the end of the year for GSM networks.



If BB was to do something like that, it would sever alot of relationships they build with CDMA companies. I think this would be a bad move for them.
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cwcanty

Jan 7, 2009, 12:04 PM
Huh? Sever what relationships? That doesnt even make sense.

RIM can do whatever they want. And considering that they have the most popular smartphones in the world, I'd say that they have done a pretty good job of handling their "relationships"

I dont like their pattern of always releasing devices on GSM first, but hey, its working for them and Im not gonna be the one to judge em.

Chris
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justmarried

Dec 31, 2008, 5:59 PM
Say what you want, but the storm is still selling strong in the stores. It couldn't have been that big of a flop.
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bkw79

Jan 1, 2009, 11:25 AM
I think all of you who claim that this phone is a flop should wait until you see official sales figures. Also, remember this point, the issues with the Storm are mostly software related. The issues with the original iphone and iphone 3G were software related and rf related. The Storm's main problems are lag and freezing, both of which are obviously software related issues that can be fixed. Other than that, it's really a great phone, and just up to you if you like the touch screen. I for one, love the touch screen on the Storm, and I also own an Iphone, it's just different than the Iphone. But, now take a look at the Iphone, it originally had problems with the screen, and still has issues with dropped calls and data connectivity. This...
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maverick96

Jan 1, 2009, 12:36 PM
bkw79 said:
I think all of you who claim that this phone is a flop should wait until you see official sales figures. Also, remember this point, the issues with the Storm are mostly software related. The issues with the original iphone and iphone 3G were software related and rf related. The Storm's main problems are lag and freezing, both of which are obviously software related issues that can be fixed. Other than that, it's really a great phone, and just up to you if you like the touch screen. I for one, love the touch screen on the Storm, and I also own an Iphone, it's just different than the Iphone. But, now take a look at the Iphone, it originally had problems with the screen, and still has issues with dropped ca
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Chapperal

Jan 1, 2009, 11:11 PM
I have a Dare phone which makes decent calls and takes a great photos. I am starting to hate the touch screen, for if you don't "hit" the letter, you have to try several times to get it right.
I went down to the local Verizon store and they had the Storm there. The Storm felt cheap, and I hated the clicking sound. I really can not see what the big deal with the Storm was, you can keep. If Verizon gave a free one I'd stay "no thanks".
In the future, I prefer a qwerty board and NOT a touch screen.
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willv

Jan 5, 2009, 10:05 AM
cant use in a quiet room? come on. its just as loud/quiet as the curve in my other hand, and less quiet then the keyboard on my computer.

i agree they botched the release, and the software, but it didnt fail.

when the phone is working good, it is wonderful, and when the phone isnt working as good, its not great. but better then my old dare, though, i wont say its better then an iphone, different. the screen on my storm works better then my friends 2nd gen 16gb ipod touch.
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maverick96

Jan 11, 2009, 10:33 AM
willv said:
cant use in a quiet room? come on. its just as loud/quiet as the curve in my other hand, and less quiet then the keyboard on my computer.

i agree they botched the release, and the software, but it didnt fail.

when the phone is working good, it is wonderful, and when the phone isnt working as good, its not great. but better then my old dare, though, i wont say its better then an iphone, different. the screen on my storm works better then my friends 2nd gen 16gb ipod touch.



This is just a straight lie!! The screen on the storm is nowhere near even close to that of the touch or the iphone.. Get real...
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willv

Jan 12, 2009, 1:45 PM
did i say the iphone? no, i said a 2nd gen ipod touch.

read before u talk sh*t.

get real
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AvgJoe

Jan 2, 2009, 5:19 PM
bkw79 said:
The Storm's main problems are lag and freezing, both of which are obviously software related issues that can be fixed. Other than that, it's really a great phone, later?


Read that again...and again......Other then that its a great phone....

NO OTHER THAN THAT its a GREAT I D E A for a phone.
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thom06

Jan 2, 2009, 5:43 PM
How would you know? Do you HAVE one? I do and I love it, I bought it the day it came out and haven't looked back since. The critics will say what they will, but people that actually own the phone have a different story.
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AvgJoe

Jan 4, 2009, 6:25 PM
thom06 said:
How would you know? Do you HAVE one? I do and I love it, I bought it the day it came out and haven't looked back since. The critics will say what they will, but people that actually own the phone have a different story.


Yeah these days not many people will admit or take responsibility for screwing up......Cell Phone insurance makes that evident
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IamTheGodfather

Jan 6, 2009, 8:26 AM
AvgJoe said:


Yeah these days not many people will admit or take responsibility for screwing up......Cell Phone insurance makes that evident



lmao


so sad.
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tgoace

Jan 2, 2009, 8:26 PM
I made a baby for this phone!

Chris, you know the story. 😛
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cwcanty

Jan 5, 2009, 1:00 AM
truly the ultimate sacrifice!
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tgoace

Jan 5, 2009, 4:53 AM
Does that make me a fanboy? 😳
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cwcanty

Jan 5, 2009, 12:41 PM
just a little bit, lol
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mycool

Jan 5, 2009, 9:07 AM
It's a terrible phone to go to if you don't like touchscreen devices (like me). That is why I stick to my Curve. Though, I am comparing it to another BB device.

Now, if I liked touchscreens I'd have to say that I would love this device. The Storm tops over the any touchscreen phone (i.e. iPhone, Dare, Treos, Omnia, etc) in terms of everything. I haven't owned any touchscreen devices, but I have played with them a lot. The only things I like different on other devices is VCast (on standard VZW touchscreen phones) and I loved the iPhones web browser (when on wifi, AT&T 3G is overhyped and slow).

But, to me all these phones are a flop because there is no perfect touchscreen phone. You are bound to run into typing issues, which is why I st...
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robtheman

Jan 5, 2009, 10:33 AM
What about the touch + qwerty phones like the Touch Pro?
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mycool

Jan 6, 2009, 12:24 AM
Well, Treos are touch/keyboard combos, but I really can't stand anything that has a touch screen. The UI makes it available to use the keyboard, but not as easy as it should be because they also have to make it center around the touchscreen too. No thanks.
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evilhomer

Jan 8, 2009, 10:49 AM
Funny. You say you never owned a touch screen device, yet you think your are qualified to say with one is better since you've "played" with a few on them?

You have no cred to be commenting on touch screens. 🙄
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mycool

Jan 11, 2009, 2:19 AM
Just because I didn't own one doesn't mean I didn't try to use one.

When I worked for VZW they had a program for employees where we could essentially borrow phones to play around with for up to 45 days. I tried the Dare, Glyde, Voyager, Treos, etc. Really, nothing special on touch screens.
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Nehemiah7

Jan 11, 2009, 12:49 PM
You 'played' with all horrible touchscreen phone yet you generalize that all touchscreen phones are bad.
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IamTheGodfather

Jan 6, 2009, 8:19 AM
your source of info is from a site that worships apple, congrats ...this means nothing to us who own one and KNOW for a FACT this blows a I Phone out the water, and it doesnt mean anything to VZW who sold well over 400k of these things in a little over a month.

And I love how your "source" claims it was returned by the droves. Reputable site there, spreading rumors over fact, since VZW has not officially released any numbers on sales or returns yet.

The bashing didnt work, people still bought it and are buying it like crazy. I cant keep a single one in my location, everytime I get more they are gone the same day. Figures it would be avg joe coming here reporting this since he is the biggest basher known to man. Have fun with your Noki...
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IamTheGodfather

Jan 6, 2009, 8:20 AM
ps


I got paid HUGE off this device, best pay outs commission wise I have seen in a very very long time.


Thanks RIM
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will54880

Jan 7, 2009, 12:32 PM
I have tried to sell mine on eBay 3x with no luck.

Some demand
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cwcanty

Jan 7, 2009, 1:15 PM
your storm? How much are you asking for it? They are selling like crazy.
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will54880

Jan 8, 2009, 11:32 AM
I started the bidding at $500.00 the last time I listed it and had no takers. I bought it on eBay for 600.00 because it was sold out locally and I just "had to have it". Now it sits in the box it was shipped to me in gathering dust.

I might relist it after folks start seeing there tax returns or if the government issues another stimulus check. maybe by then another VZW authorized patch will have been released.
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cwcanty

Jan 8, 2009, 12:00 PM
With ebay, atleast from what I have personally seen, you have to let people "play the game". Start your auction low and let people get some bids in, then they get attached and might get into a bidding war with someone. And if you want to protect your price, I would just set a reserve.

Good luck...craigslist might be another option, its free and you might catch someone looking for a storm.
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IamTheGodfather

Jan 11, 2009, 8:27 AM
why would anybody buy it from you used for 100 bucks less than buying it new with a warranty on it??


and selling it is hilarious, the newest software makes it perform better than ANY touch screen device out there.
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evilhomer

Jan 8, 2009, 10:50 AM
You guys think anyone site that writes anything negative about VZW or BB is an iPhone fanboy site.. 🙄
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IamTheGodfather

Jan 11, 2009, 8:32 AM
evilhomer said:
You guys think anyone site that writes anything negative about VZW or BB is an iPhone fanboy site.. 🙄



not exactly, but if it makes you feel better than sure....now go take a hike.
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evilhomer

Jan 11, 2009, 10:41 AM
IamTheGodfather said:


not exactly, but if it makes you feel better than sure....now go take a hike.


Wow. Does that ever really work? Telling someone who don't agree with to "take a hike"? I mean you do it all the time, yet don't seem to have the mental grasp that you have absolutely no impact on anyone when you say that and it is simply a waste of time? I guess you have a lot of it to waste.

Do you not understand how pathetic and futile a remark like that is? I have 20 lines through my company that I manage through VZW, so, I think I have as much right to post here as you and probably more credibility since I am not a fanboy like you and can look at carriers devices and services with some objectivi...
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maverick96

Jan 11, 2009, 11:47 AM
evilhomer said:


Wow. Does that ever really work? Telling someone who don't agree with to "take a hike"? I mean you do it all the time, yet don't seem to have the mental grasp that you have absolutely no impact on anyone when you say that and it is simply a waste of time? I guess you have a lot of it to waste.

Do you not understand how pathetic and futile a remark like that is? I have 20 lines through my company that I manage through VZW, so, I think I have as much right to post here as you and probably more credibility since I am not a fanboy like you and can look at carriers devices and services with some objectivity.



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maverick96

Jan 11, 2009, 11:48 AM
Pay no attention to him, he is probably just a 13 year old kid who enjoys trying to razz adults... He is a goof none the less...
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yeahright

Jan 12, 2009, 8:17 AM
I prefer the Omnia... Windows finally got it right with that one. The only draw back is the screen resolution other then that it destroys the Storm/Iphone and many other models out there.
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maverick96

Jan 12, 2009, 8:41 AM
yeahright said:
I prefer the Omnia... Windows finally got it right with that one. The only draw back is the screen resolution other then that it destroys the Storm/Iphone and many other models out there.


Omnia's touchscreen sucks, not even comparable to the iPhone.. Not to mention the Omnia freezes up..
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yeahright

Jan 15, 2009, 9:04 AM
You are entitled to your opinion, but many don't share it. The phone has received a lot of good reviews and the the people I know carrying it absolutely love it. I am sticking with Verizon because AT&T does not even work at my house and I wanted a storm but after playing with Omnia that is what I am getting.

Not to mention I can't use bluetooth stereo on your precious Iphone and I use that all the time in my car.


http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Omnia-CDMA-R ... »
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shindig

Jan 15, 2009, 8:01 PM
when I first heard of the storm I knew it was a flop from the beggining, thus the reason why I never bought one, but you all have to be honest, all these touch screen phones will and forever always be Iphone wannabes, if you want a new blackberry get the bold, it has wifi unlike the storm and its faster, then the storm plus 1 full GB on internal memory, I bought one unlocked and I love it.
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willv

Jan 16, 2009, 11:28 AM
just so you know, the storm has 1gb onboard memory plus the 8gb card. and how is the storm a flop. most people who use it for more then a day love them. im not takin anything away from the bold, its a great phone, but the storm is very nice as well.

knowing the storm was a flop when u first heard about it huh? u should play the lottery.
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shindig

Jan 16, 2009, 2:22 PM
thanks for the advice I bought a scratch ticket and won $50 😁 ...and I owe it all to you
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uscingulair

Jan 16, 2009, 12:56 PM
Oh wait never mind you have to use WI-FI to get any kind of speed with that Bold. Unless you are in one of the four citys with your crappy carriers 3G newtork. This is a VZ forum not at&t and we're talkin Storm not Bold. You couldn't pay me to have service with anyone else.
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BeachSlapped

Jan 16, 2009, 3:20 PM
just because you got fired doesn't mean that AT&T sucks. I'm not going to make this a prop post toward AT&T, but to say that AT&T offers 3G in only 4 cities is just as stupid as your response to Shindig! Grow UP
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tgoace

Jan 16, 2009, 3:50 PM
BeachSlapped said:
just because you got fired doesn't mean that AT&T sucks.

That's a little out of line, isn't it? This reads as a personal attack rather than a relevant reply.
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uscingulair

Jan 16, 2009, 6:27 PM
First off I left CINGULAR a year and a half ago to work for VZ cause of the horrible return rate. Second my phone was getting dissed and I had to stand up for it (mine since day one has worked flawlessly). Third yes at&t is horrible unless you live in a major met. and you get lucky if it picks up in any "real buildings". And what is AT&T? Since I can't Beech-slap your a$$ in person I'll just sit here and thank god I'm not you. This place really has gone to $h!t.
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