Why did Verizon omit WiFi from the Storm?
Seriously, If you are paying Verizon for a data and voice and text plan why should they care if you want to use WiFi to browse the internet on your phone sometimes. Verizons 3G network is good, but its no so good and fast that its better than a good wifi connection, and despite Verizon propaganda the 3G service doesnt work everywhere. In alot of rural places EVDO is barely faster than 1X.
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1. Decreased Battery Life
2. With High quality Rev A high speed data coverage you dont really need it.
3. GSM only uses wifi here in the states because ATT's and Tmobiles network cannot really handle the traffic. Wifi frees up their network.
4. It hasnt really been proven (only blogger speculation) that it was verizons choice. Ive read that is was RIM that said that they didnt need it.
5. There is not A SINGLE CDMA BLACKBERRY WITH WIFI. This is really a GSM feature. And verizon is not opposed to wifi, I know the new Samsung omnia has it, as well as the Touch pro I believe.
Chris
2. With High quality Rev A high speed data coverage you dont really need it.
3. GSM only uses wifi here in the states because ATT's and Tmobiles network cannot really handle the traffic. Wifi frees up their network.
4. It hasnt really been proven (only blogger speculation) that it was verizons choice. Ive read that is was RIM that said that they didnt need it.
5. There is not A SINGLE CDMA BLACKBERRY WITH WIFI. This is really a GSM feature. And verizon is not opposed to wifi, I know the new Samsung omnia has it, as well as the Touch pro I believe.
Chris
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1) True, battery life on most WiFi devices blows chunks.
2) Theoretically
3) Absolutely true. You can usually assume that a device that already boasts a high-speed data connection probably doesn't need another high-speed radio to be installed unless it really needs it or someone doesn't want you to use the first high-speed data connection.
4) It was my decision. I AM VERIZON WIRELESS.
5) Correct.
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2) Theoretically
3) Absolutely true. You can usually assume that a device that already boasts a high-speed data connection probably doesn't need another high-speed radio to be installed unless it really needs it or someone doesn't want you to use the first high-speed data connection.
4) It was my decision. I AM VERIZON WIRELESS.
5) Correct.
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what makes you think verizon "omitted" the wifi from the phone?
Can you show me one other CDMA BlackBerry for any carrier that includes WiFi??
Can you show me any other version of the storm in the world that includes WiFi??
CDMA carriers do not run their own WiFi networks like att and tmobile do, thus they do not demand it be included, and to save money it is often omitted. Also with the storm having like 35 diff radios for all the types of signal it can get they probably didnt want to add more chips to it.
Lastly, Verizon Wireless doesnt have anything against WiFi. they have phones now with wifi (i760 , XV6800) and some of the hottest upcoming phones like the HTC Touch Pro and Samsung Omnia both include WiFi.
Can you show me one other CDMA BlackBerry for any carrier that includes WiFi??
Can you show me any other version of the storm in the world that includes WiFi??
CDMA carriers do not run their own WiFi networks like att and tmobile do, thus they do not demand it be included, and to save money it is often omitted. Also with the storm having like 35 diff radios for all the types of signal it can get they probably didnt want to add more chips to it.
Lastly, Verizon Wireless doesnt have anything against WiFi. they have phones now with wifi (i760 , XV6800) and some of the hottest upcoming phones like the HTC Touch Pro and Samsung Omnia both include WiFi.
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you as well. I saw you added the saga to, I wasnt sure if that phone had wifi, but I thought it did.
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wifi is easily the most over rated feature on cell phones today. a place that offers "free" wi fi usually wants you to purchase something before you get access codes to their wifi, and then factor in the gas you needed to get to a wifi spot. and for those who say " i have a nice spot in my house i get wifi" dont you have a comp at home??
this wifi thing is lame, I belong to the best network in the biz and we dont rely on nor need wifi. thanks anyhow.
this wifi thing is lame, I belong to the best network in the biz and we dont rely on nor need wifi. thanks anyhow.
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There are MANY MANY places that Verizon does NOT get service and we NEED WiFi. You people work in a verizon store and do NOT NEED IT. A lot of people do. GET IT?
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then BUY A PHONE WITH WIFI.
I listed 5 of them that are out now or in the next few weeks. some of them are very nice even like the Omnia and touch pro
I listed 5 of them that are out now or in the next few weeks. some of them are very nice even like the Omnia and touch pro
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If your signal is that bad with verizon, then maybe you should look at switching carriers. Att might be a better choice if you want a BB with wifi.
I live in a poor reception area in my city, but I still dont even care about wifi, cause everywhere else I go there is EVDO rev A coverage. wifi would be nice, but surfing the net on a phone is so tedious anyway that I dunno why people freak out about it.
The only real "need" someone might have for wifi is to make voip calls either here in the states or overseas. That could be helpful.
I live in a poor reception area in my city, but I still dont even care about wifi, cause everywhere else I go there is EVDO rev A coverage. wifi would be nice, but surfing the net on a phone is so tedious anyway that I dunno why people freak out about it.
The only real "need" someone might have for wifi is to make voip calls either here in the states or overseas. That could be helpful.
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I always wondered how VOIP would work when it came to actuall cellphones using wifi. Would be kind of neat, but at the same time it's still more of a novelty than something that is needed.
I think as LTE starts developing, more phones will offer some form of wifi.
But as others have said. Verizon does not require wifi on any phones because they do not offer wifi hotspots.
They also do not block wifi since they offer several phones with it.
I think as LTE starts developing, more phones will offer some form of wifi.
But as others have said. Verizon does not require wifi on any phones because they do not offer wifi hotspots.
They also do not block wifi since they offer several phones with it.
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you would think that money hungry verizon would want wifi on their BB.
look at it this way. VZW requires the BB data plan. So they are garuanteed income whether or not you use the data at all. Now if they include wifi, they are still getting the income from the req data plan, but by allowing you to use wifi, you will use less data on their network.
i dont see why VZW fanboy's (not pointing fingers, just saying) stand behind them so strongly on this issues. They keep saying, "but we have the best network"
So what?! you may have the network in the cities and overall, but what about out in hte boonies where there isnt a great revA signal? oh well screw those guys huh? we still have the best network, its not our fault we dont have cove...
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look at it this way. VZW requires the BB data plan. So they are garuanteed income whether or not you use the data at all. Now if they include wifi, they are still getting the income from the req data plan, but by allowing you to use wifi, you will use less data on their network.
i dont see why VZW fanboy's (not pointing fingers, just saying) stand behind them so strongly on this issues. They keep saying, "but we have the best network"
So what?! you may have the network in the cities and overall, but what about out in hte boonies where there isnt a great revA signal? oh well screw those guys huh? we still have the best network, its not our fault we dont have cove...
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Who are you to ignore every other post on this topic and spout the same (mis)information others have.
Please tell me where you heard that verizon told Blackberry that they couldn't install wifi?
Furthermore, please explain why you can already purchase multiple phones on verizon's network that offer wifi and there is no blocks on them?
Could it be that since verizon does not require it (since they offer no wifi hot spots, so it IS a novelty on their phones as far as connection is concerned) companies do not include it to cut costs?
The problem here is that you want the flashy new blackberry, but you also want wifi, so now you're going to complain because you want your cake, and you want to eat it too. Verizon already offers pho...
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Please tell me where you heard that verizon told Blackberry that they couldn't install wifi?
Furthermore, please explain why you can already purchase multiple phones on verizon's network that offer wifi and there is no blocks on them?
Could it be that since verizon does not require it (since they offer no wifi hot spots, so it IS a novelty on their phones as far as connection is concerned) companies do not include it to cut costs?
The problem here is that you want the flashy new blackberry, but you also want wifi, so now you're going to complain because you want your cake, and you want to eat it too. Verizon already offers pho...
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first off i dont want a storm. i've played with it and personally think its a piece of junk. the screen that wiggles is a joke!
2nd. i never said that VZW told BB not to include wifi. but how many VZW phone have wifi?? not many. sure the new ones that are comin out will. know why? cuz of ppl like me that complained about their previous phones not having it
why does VZW have to have wifi hotspots to make wifi useful? why does vzw have to control every aspect of the phone? just cuz vzw doesnt offer wifi hotspots, doesnt mean that the customers dont need it or couldnt make use of it
american carriers need to get their heads out of the sand and stop trying to control every aspect of cellular phone use. phones are way way more then just ...
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2nd. i never said that VZW told BB not to include wifi. but how many VZW phone have wifi?? not many. sure the new ones that are comin out will. know why? cuz of ppl like me that complained about their previous phones not having it
why does VZW have to have wifi hotspots to make wifi useful? why does vzw have to control every aspect of the phone? just cuz vzw doesnt offer wifi hotspots, doesnt mean that the customers dont need it or couldnt make use of it
american carriers need to get their heads out of the sand and stop trying to control every aspect of cellular phone use. phones are way way more then just ...
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There are previous phones that have wifi. Your arguement that somehow vzw is stopping manufacturers from having wifi is not true. If wifi is that important, get a phone that has wifi or a carrier that supports more phones that have wifi. Don't whine about it, take your money where you will get the most value for you.
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justmarried said:
There are previous phones that have wifi. Your arguement that somehow vzw is stopping manufacturers from having wifi is not true. If wifi is that important, get a phone that has wifi or a carrier that supports more phones that have wifi. Don't whine about it, take your money where you will get the most value for you.
These arguments are EXACTLY like those arguments we had when Verizon was crippling Bluetooth in 2004.
WiFi is a local area network (LAN). Bluetooth is a personal area network (PAN). Both are "off network" services. Nothing is really in it for big red.
"Not in our business model" they said back then. Same story it looks like today.
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Like I said, "take your money where you will get the most value. Don't whine about it." There is nothing making you or anyone get vzw.
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justmarried said:
Like I said, "take your money where you will get the most value. Don't whine about it." There is nothing making you or anyone get vzw.
I am not whining. Just reminding the younger readers that Verizon has a history of crippling free local network connectivity, then they cave in after tons of bad publicity.
In 2005, it took a Class Action lawsuit to get Bluetooth working.
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How is it crippling the service if they have phones, and have HAD phones with wifi in the past, they just don't offer as many of them as other carriers do becuase, unlike other carriers, they operate no wifi hotspots (that people pay to use without a subscription).
Wifi for the other carriers is a marketing ploy, it offers no benefits to verizon, so they do not push for phones with it. Please, tell me how is this crippling service?
Wifi for the other carriers is a marketing ploy, it offers no benefits to verizon, so they do not push for phones with it. Please, tell me how is this crippling service?
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think of it this way. all tv compaines make color tv's while one company does not. the technology is there, but the company that doesnt make a color model just says, "well, since we dont actually provide the color tv programming, we arent going to sell a color tv"
pretty stupid huh?
vzw not have wifi is the same thing. if the technology is there and it is useful to the customer, why not include it? remember people, the phones are suppose to be made to benefit the customer, not the carrier. vzw needs to realize this
pretty stupid huh?
vzw not have wifi is the same thing. if the technology is there and it is useful to the customer, why not include it? remember people, the phones are suppose to be made to benefit the customer, not the carrier. vzw needs to realize this
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But verizon does offer phones with wifi, several of them in fact. That is why your analogy is not accurate. If verizon was actually "crippling" phones and "limiting" choice as you are saying, no phone would have wifi on verizons network.
It is more like this:
If verizon offered two models of the Storm; a basic model similar to the one out now, or one with WiFi included. The one without wifi is going for the current price of $199. The wifi version is going for... let's say $119 ($20 more to cover limited run amount, the additional hardware, etc.)
Now take into account the fact that the typical consumer will most likely get a phone without the wifi simply because it is cheaper. (yes, I've seen enough customers spazz out about $20 ...
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It is more like this:
If verizon offered two models of the Storm; a basic model similar to the one out now, or one with WiFi included. The one without wifi is going for the current price of $199. The wifi version is going for... let's say $119 ($20 more to cover limited run amount, the additional hardware, etc.)
Now take into account the fact that the typical consumer will most likely get a phone without the wifi simply because it is cheaper. (yes, I've seen enough customers spazz out about $20 ...
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liquidfire said:
think of it this way. all tv compaines make color tv's while one company does not. the technology is there, but the company that doesnt make a color model just says, "well, since we dont actually provide the color tv programming, we arent going to sell a color tv"
pretty stupid huh?
vzw not have wifi is the same thing. if the technology is there and it is useful to the customer, why not include it? remember people, the phones are suppose to be made to benefit the customer, not the carrier. vzw needs to realize this
Your post was the only one that made sense today on the WiFi issue. The other ones were like when we had the Bluetooth arguments in 2004. Today, all of the 'high end' pho...
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