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Stuck between a rock and a hard place

WestCoITGuy

Mar 16, 2008, 6:14 PM
Hey whats up peoples....I have an issue to discuss with you guys.

I have been with Verizon Wireless since 2000. I recently moved to a new condo about 1 year ago. I am in the suburban St. Louis area. For the last month or so I have given up my AT&T home (wireline) phone and decided to save a little money and do the Wireless only phone thing.

For whatever reason, I have come to find out that my Verizon Wireless phone sucks when you are forced to deal with only having a cell phone as your only source of communication. I guess I did not pay too much attention to it when I had a home phone because I would make most of my phone calls to deal with customer service to my service providers: cable, credit card, utilities, etc. using my hom...
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cwcanty

Mar 16, 2008, 6:22 PM
Joe--

This is funny, cause this is the exact same situation that I am going through right now. I bought a condo in 2005 that has terrible verizon reception, but verizon is fantastic everywhere else in my area.

I hooked up a landline and decreased my cell minutes so my combined phone bill for two lines isnt that bad. I also called verizon customer care about the reception, but I really didnt want to leave, because I hate att and that is really the only other viable option for me.

I say stick with vzw and use a landline for home use. I also like having a landline, its kinda nice sometimes when you just dont want to talk on a cell phone.

hope this helps

Chris
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WestCoITGuy

Mar 16, 2008, 6:30 PM
well I cant really cut my cell minutues. Im on the lowest plan verizon has. plus I am paying $5 for messages.

I do have the option of going to Sprint like my fiance has but I dont know. My company would not offer me a discount w/ Sprint.
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cwcanty

Mar 16, 2008, 6:37 PM
Sprint works and verizon doesn't? that seems weird because they are the same network for the most part. I would just stick with verizon, especially if you get the discount through your employer.
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WestCoITGuy

Mar 16, 2008, 6:45 PM
Well my fiance has Sprint and inside the condo her coverage is not perfect but better than mine. Now outside (in the parking lot, near the condo) she claims her coverage is perfect. Mine is not.

I thought that cell phone companies dont share coverage towers within big cities, populated areas, only in the country or on major highways.

Otherwise if everyone shared the same towers...would'nt every cell phone company offer the same features and coverage level?
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cwcanty

Mar 16, 2008, 6:47 PM
They just both run of CDMA networks, so if verizon was struggling to grab a signal, I figured that sprint would as well.

I know for me, my friends that have sprint dont get much of a signal in my condo. They have about the same coverage as me.
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freedomcapcity

Mar 17, 2008, 1:06 PM
sprint and verizon have roaming agreements, meaning you can use either towers in certain areas. check your roaming settings on your phone. if its set to never roam then you wont pick up the sprint towers.
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BROWN27

Mar 17, 2008, 1:18 PM
Verizon phones do not work that way, you can't force a verizon phone to roam.
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mess729

Mar 17, 2008, 2:05 PM
I think you can force your phone to roam but I am not totally certain. You need to go into the hidden menu system to do that:

On LG vx8600s with older firmware, press OK to open the menu on your phone. Press 0, and then six more zeros to open the service menu.
ON newer firmware, you should enter: ##PROGRAM8600 (##77647268600) + send, then enter the six zeros.

I would play with the settings in option 3 AKA Network select to see if you can adjust some stuff in there to make it work.

Make sure you write down the original settings before you change them, just In case you get a phone with no reception at all.

Also another thing is research getting a Femtocell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femtocell »

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BROWN27

Mar 17, 2008, 2:37 PM
ummm no..that will only turn off evdo...verizon blocks certain PRL anyways- bottom line is can't force your phone to roam nor would I suggest it.

If you're having issue try another phone, or port to another carrier that works in your home.
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 17, 2008, 3:28 PM
You can force a verizon phone to roam. The new ones they have today, you can not, that I can find anyway, but the 8600, you can definately force to roam.

you have to go in the secret menu, and select option one, service prg. There is step by step instructions for doing it. Basically you need to know the sid number verizon is in st. louis. You can go in and lock out verizon's sid and that will force your phone to go onto the extended network. Which in st. Louis, I would bet is USCC.

And yes, the 8600 is not a very good phone for signal. You will need to find out who verizon roams on in st.Louis, and then find out if that carrier has better service in your condo area. If they do, then locking out verizon's sid will do the trick.
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BROWN27

Mar 17, 2008, 3:36 PM
So maybe you can on the 8600, but on the new ones you cant! It doesn't matter you got this guy going into the service menu which you can mess up your phone easy if you don't know what you're doing... and C'mon sticking his phone under his arm pits is not an option either 🤣 His veirzon phone sucks at his house, get another carrier!
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 17, 2008, 3:47 PM
my service sucks at my house also brown27. Any day, any time, I can stick my phone under my arm pit and I can force my phone to the extended network. The fact that the service sucks in my house is the reason the arm pit trick works. It takes the almost non-existant signal from verizon, blocks it out, and forces the phone to search for a stronger signal, which in my area is USCC, and the phone grabs that signal. I go from no bar verizon signal to full USCC signal just by putting the phone under my arm pit for 10 seconds.

And on the other deal on the service menu, Brown27 is right here, do not mess with the settings in service menu unless you have knowledge of what to do or know someone that can show you. Practice on a old junk phone i...
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BROWN27

Mar 17, 2008, 4:02 PM
Why do you stay with verizon if you at home receptions sucks? Entire family on Verizon?
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 17, 2008, 4:09 PM
95% of the people I talk to are on verizon. And I travel for a living. Verizon does not have a 50% rule. The other carrier in my area is USCC, and they have a 50% rule, which I violated 8 years ago.

in my small town, we have 2 choices, Verizon, or USCC. USCC has the better service with restrictions, and verizon has the weaker service with no restrictions and most everybody I know or talk to have verizon. So verizon wins, I can work around the signal situation.

During my travels, verizon is fine, just suck in my house and most of our town.
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BROWN27

Mar 17, 2008, 4:14 PM
I see cool cool i guess you figured out what works best for you! 🙂
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 17, 2008, 3:37 PM
another thing I would try, go into the secret menu go down to network select, click on mode preference, and select 1X only. Sometimes if you are in a bad area for evdo, your phone is programmed to search for evdo first, then move on to other towers. If you are on the outer boundary for evdo, it is possible your phone is holding onto that evdo tower forcing you to have worse voice coverage. If you swith the setting to 1X only, there might be a non evdo tower closer to you that your phone will pick up. This is just an idea, might work for you, it does for me in another area.

And yes, I know evdo is not voice, but your is phone programmed to go with evdo first, then 1X, well if there is a tower that has evdo close enough to you, your pho...
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BROWN27

Mar 17, 2008, 9:25 AM
Sprint has its own towers and one could be closer to his condo yielding him better service with Sprint, Sprint roams off of verizon but only when out of their native coverage area, so they don't share the same towers!! 🙂
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temp_name

Mar 16, 2008, 11:31 PM
Make sure it has the latest software update on it. Something in the software caused issues with 1x Signal. Apparantly, LG sent a software fix to help this phone out. I say you need a new phone altogether though because even with a software update that phone stinks for signal.
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jow16

Mar 17, 2008, 1:20 PM
The 8600 does not seem to pull in the same signal as some other phones. I would see about trying another phone. Ask around and see if you know anyone with Verizon that has a different phone and invite them over...see what they get.
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CaptJeff

Mar 17, 2008, 12:40 AM
It seems that you have internet access, possibly cable broadband, since you don't have a home landline and therefore probably no DSL. One idea is to use a VOIP phone for your home phone- take a look at packet8.net .
I'm thinking about it for my home as I may need several lines, and I've got only ONE good wire pair into the house. Of course I've got a 5 Mbps cable line too. It's rather inexpensive. Hope this helps.
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jmac32here

Mar 19, 2008, 1:42 AM
Before making an ultimate decision, I would suggest checking out Drako's Wireless Review.

From there you can compare which providers can offer you coverage and service where you would be using it the most-at home and at work.

One big thing, look at home coverage. Even with agreements for no roaming fees, roaming can cause you problems. The review site has a full article as to why.

Considering you are living in at&t territory for land line service, I would assume (but not guarantee) that at&t for wireless would work better in that area.

I have noticed a possible connection between land line zoning laws, and cellular reception for the wireless provider owned by-or contracted with-the corresponding land line service.

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