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hoy cow! $115 a month for the most basic PDA plan with "unlimited" data!?!?!?

gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 1:02 PM
just went through the verizon website trying to do a cost comparison vs the most basic iPhone plan because when my current plan expires, I'm considering all my options.

so the most basic "unlimited nationwide" pda plan with unlimited email, messaging and web, 450 minutes talk time, is $115 a month for 1 line. before taxes, surcharges and fees. (which is what I'd want if I got, say, a voyager (which also costs more than $150)).

the equivalent iPhone plan is $60/month. I could put a 2 iphone family plan in for $110 (3 phones for $140). that's what I'm paying now for a 3 phone basic family plan with unlimited text on only 1 line.

the cost difference between the cheapest smartphone on verizon and the iPhone is ~$250, so after 5 month...
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will54880

Jan 30, 2008, 1:10 PM
How about we compare rate plans for a phone that both carriers have a model of, say the BB Pearl. Seeing the iPhone has its own rate structure, we are not comparing apples to apples.

When you crunch those numbers, let's see how far the two carriers are off.
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AvgJoe

Jan 30, 2008, 1:13 PM
will54880 said:
How about we compare rate plans for a phone that both carriers have a model of, say the BB Pearl. Seeing the iPhone has its own rate structure, we are not comparing apples to apples.

When you crunch those numbers, let's see how far the two carriers are off.


But he is comparing the the same service on an iPhone which makes it an easy decision. Verizon has no comparison to the iPhone
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chocolateman85006

Jan 30, 2008, 5:44 PM
The Voyager is close, isn't it?
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AvgJoe

Jan 30, 2008, 9:49 PM
chocolateman85006 said:
The Voyager is close, isn't it?

If it is then he has a point I guess
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chainmail311

Jan 31, 2008, 6:12 PM
Yeah, the Voyager. The official "iPhone killer". I'm so glad that phone saved the world.
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chocolateman85006

Feb 1, 2008, 6:21 PM
๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ LMFAO!
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SForsyth01

Jan 31, 2008, 7:22 PM
AvgJoe said:
will54880 said:
How about we compare rate plans for a phone that both carriers have a model of, say the BB Pearl. Seeing the iPhone has its own rate structure, we are not comparing apples to apples.

When you crunch those numbers, let's see how far the two carriers are off.


But he is comparing the the same service on an iPhone which makes it an easy decision. Verizon has no comparison to the iPhone


Look again. As far as plans are concerned, the Verizon PDA plan with unlimited messaging is EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE per month as the iphone plan when you add unlimited messaging, and Verizon's plan is actually better:

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AvgJoe

Jan 30, 2008, 1:10 PM
gonar said:
just went through the verizon website trying to do a cost comparison vs the most basic iPhone plan because when my current plan expires, I'm considering all my options.

so the most basic "unlimited nationwide" pda plan with unlimited email, messaging and web, 450 minutes talk time, is $115 a month for 1 line. before taxes, surcharges and fees. (which is what I'd want if I got, say, a voyager (which also costs more than $150)).

the equivalent iPhone plan is $60/month. I could put a 2 iphone family plan in for $110 (3 phones for $140). that's what I'm paying now for a 3 phone basic family plan with unlimited text on only 1 line.

the cost difference between the cheapest smartphone on verizon and the i
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Below.Me

Jan 30, 2008, 1:10 PM
If you are considering getting a voyager, you can not get a PDA plan since it is not a smart phone.

For a single line voyager will all the features, except vcast tv, it is 79.99 a month on the nationwide premium 450 mins with unlimited text, Internet, navigator, and email.

2 lines on a premium sharing 700 min is only 139.99 a month. if the second line only wants to do unlimited messaging you can get it down to 109.99.
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Below.Me

Jan 30, 2008, 1:27 PM
if you want a smart phone, and you have a family plan, you can get a smart phone on any of the rate plans(basic or select) and add the unlimited data feature to the PDA(30-45 a month depending on device)
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flylikeme

Jan 31, 2008, 2:02 PM
yeah this im having a problem w/that too. I want a BB w/untld text msging, web access & email but like the guy said vzw pda/smartphone plans start at $79.99 & all that extra stuff is $20 more making it $99.99 plus tax a month for w/e i want and that just way to much for me so i'm switching services to at&t to get the BB curve for less.... idk i think its a better move for me instead of paying more when i can pay less soo yeah i defintely have a problem w/there pda plans
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Moruitelda

Jan 31, 2008, 2:34 PM
Jesus, what are you talking about? 450 minute Select plan = $59.99, BlackBerry internet and email plan = $29.99 ... $10 less than you said.
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flylikeme

Jan 31, 2008, 11:54 PM
the $29.99 plan is what?? what does that include? and is this under verizon??
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duckbutter

Feb 1, 2008, 8:24 AM
They lowered the BB plans to $29.99, and yes it is verizon
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dalily21

Jan 30, 2008, 1:14 PM
the voyager is not a pda
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chocolateman85006

Jan 30, 2008, 8:18 PM
That's been said many times in this thread, alone.
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BROWN27

Jan 30, 2008, 1:42 PM
www.sprint.com/sero

1250 minutes, unlimited data, unlimited text, 6 pm nights, all for 50 bucks! plus a work discount!
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SystemShock

Jan 30, 2008, 10:39 PM
BROWN27 said:
www.sprint.com/sero

1250 minutes, unlimited data, unlimited text, 6 pm nights, all for 50 bucks! plus a work discount!

Sprint's still in business? ๐Ÿ˜ณ
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primus

Jan 30, 2008, 2:05 PM
The OP isnt even looking at the same subjects between the two companies... He is compairing the iphone which has its own plans that are much cheaper than normal AT&T data plans and only has 200 messages to a full PDA plan with unlimited messages... And then he doesnt even get the cost right.

450 min select with email is $99.99, not $115. This would be 450 mins, unlimited messages, unlimited data.

Voyager with unlimited data and unlimited messages would be $74.99, iPhone with same would be $79.98.
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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 3:40 PM
and yes it is 115, it's a $15 a month surcharge for unlimited web on top of the $99 unlimited email and text.

go to the website if you don't believe me.

I don't really give a darn if the iPhone rates are "Special", what I care about is that at the end of the day, a PDA phone and rate plan end up being $55 X 19 months cheaper if I get an iPhone on ATT vs even the cheapest PDA with roughly equivalent rate plan on verizon.

for me, the difference between 200 sms and unlimited is precisely zero, I have sent less than 50 SMS _ever_. however I would use email and the web all the time.
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dalily21

Jan 30, 2008, 3:59 PM
what email are you seeing for 15 dollars? the 99.00 includes unlimited internet access and any email you want to check thru that
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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 7:49 PM
email is included, unlimited WEB is not
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MidnightDT

Feb 1, 2008, 7:10 PM
you are wrong Gonar, the 15$ charge is if you want to tether your PDA to your laptop for unlimited Web on it aswell.

the 99$ plan includes unlimited web and email on the phone. 15$ more if you want to get it on your laptop aswell using the phone.
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bonito

Jan 30, 2008, 5:13 PM
Once again, the Voyagere is NOT a PDA.
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chocolateman85006

Jan 30, 2008, 5:47 PM
What about the Voyager?
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primus

Jan 30, 2008, 6:26 PM
first off I am not an otaku...
Second, I am a VZW employee..
Third, you are obviously missing major facts in your post and are posting just like many trolls.
Fourth, if you dont text why are you looking at the unlimited message plans even?

450 basic with email plan is 89.99.. that is a PDA plan.
Same services on AT&T would be 79.99 (450 min plan plus PDA personal.

So yes, VZW charges $10 more per month for equivalent service.. $10 does not equal $55

and if you look at the plans for heavy users, at VZW you can get 4000 mins with unlimited data for $169.99, that would be $179.99 at AT&T, so VZW would be $10 less.

and the middle ground at 1350 and 2000 mins both AT&T and VZW cost the same.


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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 7:57 PM
because all the PDA plans that you find when you "shop for plans" include unlimited messaging and email. the national service plans start at 99.

I'm coming at this as a customer, not an insider with detailed knowledge of how to game the system to get the best rates (I find it borderline criminal the way _all_ cell phone companies screw people over like that).

I only know about the program options the web site presents me with.

I don't care about ATT's generic PDA plans, only the iPhone plans, because that is the phone I would get _IF_ I switched.

since Verizon doesn't offer the iPhone, the PDA-phones are the closest equivalent.

the Voyager, while nice, is not in the same league as a PDA or iphone.
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primus

Jan 31, 2008, 12:22 AM
Try it step by step from the site.. if you start with plans, at least pick the right one. You said you dont care about texting, so dont pick the unlimited texting plan...

So start under plans, pick voice and data plans since you want both..
So lets read what the site says.. under the first link is:
"A bundled package with voice allowance and wireless data usage for quick and easy remote access to email and attachments."

hmm that sounds like what you were looking for.

so then on the next page we see that 450 mins is 79.99. So we pick that and hit the button to continue.

So on the next screen we pick the phone, so lets pick the motorla q 9m..

On the next page we see this strange $15 number you keep pulling out of nowhere which...
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AvgJoe

Jan 31, 2008, 12:50 AM
hmm... so you wanted to use your PDA as a modem as well but didnt include that charge for the iPhone (can the iPhone even do that?)


Yes it can and its included in the plan price. I think thats what he was referring to.
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yeahright

Jan 30, 2008, 3:03 PM
39.99=450 minute plan

$5= 250 messages(including pictures)Most comparable to iphone plan with 200(so don't add the unlimites on thinking it is comparable)

Vcast is $15 for unlimited web use, you canalso check your email through that. $10 more if you want tv(but iphone does not have that so don't add it)

If you want mobile email alerts to come straight to your phone then mobile email is $5

SO lets add that up. 39.99+5+15+5= $65

Not sure where you got $115 because even if you did truely unlimited messaging it would be 39.99+20+15+5= $80 with unlimited text/pix/flix messaging
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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 3:44 PM
look at the PDA rate plans for national service.

$99 for 450, text and email. $15 surcharge for web. $115 total.

I'm not an ATT fanboi, I left them 7 years ago because of crappy signal in my town. the signal issue is no longer a problem where I live.

if it is possible to get the rates you quote, verizon sure doesn't want it's customers to know about it, because it doesn't even present them as options.
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cilvzwagent

Jan 30, 2008, 4:11 PM
The Voyager isn't a PDA....learn your stuff, then come back and see us when you have a legit gripe.

And the plan is called the PREMIUM Plan it's $79.99 per month.

And, we also have a Nationwide with Email Select Plan for those phones that are in our PDA category. It's $99.99 per month, for 450 mins, unltd nights and weekends, in calling, unltd pda data, email, and txt messaging.

Once again I say....learn then come back with a legit gripe. And do you never pay attention to these forums? How many times do us reps preach about checkin with stores before goin with what's online. We got all sorts of plans hiding out that most of even basic customer service isn't aware of. If you don't believe me on this, i'll give you the price pla...
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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 8:02 PM
yup, found the $99 plan, then picked the phone, then clicked next and was presented with service options (like insurance etc) and the 4th option down the page is $15/month for unlimited web.

they _very_ carefully say unlimited email and text/pix/flix messaging and nothing about WEB until you get to the extras page.

that's where I get the $15 surcharge.

gosh, with an attitude like yourse, I wonder why I'm considering switching to ATT.

I came here hoping for someone to convince me that I shouldn't switch. guess I got the answer I needed.
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LordObento

Jan 30, 2008, 9:17 PM
If you want to use your PDA (not Voyager) as a Modem for your PC/Laptop, which you can do with an iPhone, it's $15 extra and optional
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MidnightDT

Feb 1, 2008, 7:08 PM
what does his attitude have to do with you switching to at&t? hes not verizon wireless, hes some guy on a forum.

the 15$ charge is if you had a PDA (which the voyager isnt) and you wanted unlimited internet on your laptop (tethered).
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phonemechanic

Jan 30, 2008, 4:16 PM
Are you making up your own plan or something? I'm not sure where any of your #s are coming from. $99 for 450, text, email, and unlimited messaging. That's on an actual PDA (Treo, i760, etc. ) Where is $15 coming from? Are you talking about VCAST? Sounds to me like you are, since the Voyager is NOT a PDA. As a matter of fact, neither is the iPhone.

That being said, if you want a Voyager with unlimited messaging, and unlimited data, you're looking $59.99 for the select plan plus $15 for VCAST...or $74.99
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dalily21

Jan 30, 2008, 4:24 PM
or the premium plan which will give you vz navigator and mobile email and vcast for 79.99
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aughey29

Jan 30, 2008, 4:37 PM
I think that extra $15 is for the tethering feature. You only pay that if you want to connect your computer up to yor pda.
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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 8:04 PM
who ever said I wanted a voyager?!?!

I said "cheapest PDA" which is the Q9M.

some other poster started talking about the voyager.
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yeahright

Feb 4, 2008, 1:04 PM
um in your first post you nmade mention of the iphone and compared it to voyager, making us believe you were tyring to find something comparable to the iphone on verizon.
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primus

Jan 30, 2008, 6:40 PM
...since you are making up a $15 surcharge for web for VZW, why didnt you make up the same fake charge for AT&T? and why arent you adding the $20 for unlimited text to the AT&T price? That would turn you $60 figure into $95...


If you want a rate quote, go onto VZW's website, go to the section for phones, pick the phone you want to see the price for plans on, then pick your plan for it and then pick features...

the only thing I know of that is missing from the site is the $5 message package for 250 messages.. I dont know why it isnt there, but for some reason the people in charge dont want it on the site and I am sure we lose customers because of it.
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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 8:08 PM
I don't want a phone. didn't you read the first post at all?

PDA PDA PDA PDA

PDA PLANS!

99 for national, 450, unlimited email, sms
15 extra for unlimited data
(go ahead, go to the web site, "shop for plans"
step 1 pick plan ($99)
step 2 pick PDA (Q9M $150)
step 3 service options: Unlimited WEB $15

stop calling me a liar and look at the website
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gonar

Jan 30, 2008, 8:16 PM
I was shopping PDA plans, and the cheapest PDA is the q9m for 150.

the voyager isn't a PDA and so would use a phone plan.

but the point I was trying to make is still valid, because the lowest number has quoted for a voyager with iPhone equivalent plan is $95/month, when combined with the $300 price of the voyager, the math is almost the same.

break even on Phone after after 3 months, then save 35/month for the next 21 months.
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AvgJoe

Jan 30, 2008, 10:07 PM
gonar said:
I was shopping PDA plans, and the cheapest PDA is the q9m for 150.

the voyager isn't a PDA and so would use a phone plan.

but the point I was trying to make is still valid, because the lowest number has quoted for a voyager with iPhone equivalent plan is $95/month, when combined with the $300 price of the voyager, the math is almost the same.

break even on Phone after after 3 months, then save 35/month for the next 21 months.


Just get the iPhone and be done with it. If you now have a good signal and like that phone.

Whenever anyone challenges Verizon on anything the Fan Boy Defense team headed by Primus will come out swingin first then asking questions. Don't be bothered by the extr...
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SystemShock

Jan 30, 2008, 10:41 PM
AvgJoe said:
Whenever anyone challenges Verizon on anything the Fan Boy Defense team headed by Primus will come out swingin first then asking questions. Don't be bothered by the extreme Kool-Aid drinkers. Just do your own research and make your choices. The Carrier forums are not research. The Phone section is. These Carrier forums are filled with angry employees who secretly and not so secretly hate their customers and competition. Just angry people grinding out a living.

As opposed to AvgJoe, the ATT fanboy so obnoxious than even other ATT fanboys can't stand him and yell at him? ๐Ÿคฃ

Myron, go on home. You're drunk again.
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AvgJoe

Jan 31, 2008, 12:44 AM
I could give a flying crap about ATT.....I am an advocate of the GSM technology. I could care less about the carrier. I would go with T Mobile if they had a better deal or Google is they have open source software and unbranded phones. I AM a Nokia fanboy though. No one makes a phone that does what the N95/82 does at any price.

BTW I could care less whether or not a handful of of cell service salesmen in suits (Suits to sell phone service?) think of me on this forum or another regardless of which flavor they are drinking. Cell phone sakes rank just above Car sales people in the respect department. I understand your pain.
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2008, 3:00 AM
AvgJoe said:
I am an advocate of the GSM technology.

Oh, so you like OLD things. I get it. I think Model T's are kinda cool too. ๐Ÿ˜


I AM a Nokia fanboy though.

That's unfortunate, considering that their US marketshare has dropped from 28% on down to 10% over the past few years. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

I guess US cellphone consumers just aren't diggin' their product.
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AvgJoe

Jan 31, 2008, 11:46 AM
SystemShock said:
AvgJoe said:
I am an advocate of the GSM technology.

Oh, so you like OLD things. I get it. I think Model T's are kinda cool too. ๐Ÿ˜


I AM a Nokia fanboy though.

That's unfortunate, considering that their US marketshare has dropped from 28% on down to 10% over the past few years. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

I guess US cellphone consumers just aren't diggin' their product.

SystemShock said:
AvgJoe said:
I am an advocate of the GSM technology.

Oh, so you like OLD things. I get it. I think Model T's are kinda cool too. ๐Ÿ˜


I AM a Nokia fanboy though.

That's unf
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2008, 12:12 PM
AvgJoe said:
Oh and Why would anyone buy something just because it has a huge market share, By your clearly thoughtless analogy ATT is better than Verizon because it has a larger market share!

Sure, ATT has a larger marketshare... if you include prepaid. ๐Ÿ˜

If were talking postpaid, then VZW is larger, actually.


Your post reeks of a mindless attempt at logic.

That makes no sense. Logic is never mindless. Unlike most of your posts.

Now hush. I'm off to the museum to look at GSM technology and other 'relics'. ๐Ÿ™‚
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AvgJoe

Jan 31, 2008, 1:05 PM
SystemShock said:
AvgJoe said:
Oh and Why would anyone buy something just because it has a huge market share, By your clearly thoughtless analogy ATT is better than Verizon because it has a larger market share!

Sure, ATT has a larger marketshare... if you include prepaid. ๐Ÿ˜

If were talking postpaid, then VZW is larger, actually.


Your post reeks of a mindless attempt at logic.

That makes no sense. Logic is never mindless. Unlike most of your posts.

Now hush. I'm off to the museum to look at GSM technology and other 'relics'. ๐Ÿ™‚



LOL yeah the world is certainly gearing up for the move into the future,,,,,,CDMA, ONe GUI,Crippled GPS...
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BROWN27

Jan 31, 2008, 1:11 PM
๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2008, 1:15 PM
BROWN27 said:
๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ

Oh Brownie, brownie, brownie... stick to pimping Sprint. Even though they may be going out of business. ๐Ÿ˜
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BROWN27

Jan 31, 2008, 1:20 PM
Don't be stupid you know they are not going out of business, ๐Ÿ™„ they have way to much spectrum and assets for that.
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2008, 1:21 PM
If they stay in business, there's a good chance it'll be as someone else.

What sounds better to you... 'Comcast Wireless', or 'GoogleMobile'? ๐Ÿ˜‰
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BROWN27

Jan 31, 2008, 1:24 PM
Googlemobile ๐Ÿ™‚
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2008, 1:26 PM
Yeah, I'd go with them too. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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AvgJoe

Jan 31, 2008, 5:18 PM
Well we all agree on something....
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2008, 1:20 PM
AvgJoe said:
LOL yeah the world is certainly gearing up for the move into the future,,,,,,CDMA, ONe GUI, Crippled GPS, Crippled BT......Theres the future? LOL

Stop at a library on the way to the museum and read a book.

The world's already headed into the future... or did you not notice that 3G GSM is called WCDMA for a reason, ace?

Even ancient GSM knows to borrow a better technology's air interface. ๐Ÿคฃ

Far as 'crippled BT' goes, way to reference 2005, Myron. Do catch up, now. ๐Ÿ˜

The part that I think is funniest though is how you want to learn a new GUI with every phone you purchase. Sorry Myron, but other people have lives.
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primus

Jan 31, 2008, 12:08 AM
You still arent listening. With voyager 450 mins is 39.99, vcast for data is 15 and 250 text messages would be $5... That would be $59.99
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AvgJoe

Jan 31, 2008, 12:48 AM
primus said:
You still arent listening. With voyager 450 mins is 39.99, vcast for data is 15 and 250 text messages would be $5... That would be $59.99


NO YOU aren't listening. He WANTS an phone that compares to the iPhone for the same rate and feature set. Verizon does not have a phone that even comes close to the iPhone and it's plans.

I hat the iphone and think it's terribly incomplete and has to be hacked but millions are buying it and apparently unlocking it becasue more phones have been sold then are activated....
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chocolateman85006

Jan 30, 2008, 8:17 PM
gonar said:
I don't want a phone. didn't you read the first post at all?

PDA PDA PDA PDA

PDA PLANS!

99 for national, 450, unlimited email, sms
15 extra for unlimited data
(go ahead, go to the web site, "shop for plans"
step 1 pick plan ($99)
step 2 pick PDA (Q9M $150)
step 3 service options: Unlimited WEB $15

stop calling me a liar and look at the website


But isn't still a phone? ๐Ÿคจ
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vzwccc

Feb 2, 2008, 10:53 PM
Gonar, I don't know if you are still looking into this or not. If you are, if you are looking to get the Moto Q9m, you would either want the Nationwid Email 450 Min for 79.99 or the Nationwide Email and Msg 450 for 104.99. Even though the name says email, it refers to unlimited data usage. Truthfully your best bet is the Nationwide Email 450 min For 79.99 and add 5.00 for 250 txt/pix/flix. I believe this will cover everything you will need.
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flylikeme

Jan 31, 2008, 2:13 PM
gonar said:
look at the PDA rate plans for national service.

$99 for 450, text and email. $15 surcharge for web. $115 total.

I'm not an ATT fanboi, I left them 7 years ago because of crappy signal in my town. the signal issue is no longer a problem where I live.

if it is possible to get the rates you quote, verizon sure doesn't want it's customers to know about it, because it doesn't even present them as options.



this is the RIGHT ADD UP!
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Moruitelda

Jan 31, 2008, 2:38 PM
NO IT IS NOT
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flylikeme

Jan 31, 2008, 11:57 PM
yea it is, you're not understanding he & I want the untld features that come w/it and all that stuff is $20
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MidnightDT

Feb 1, 2008, 7:06 PM
VOYAGER is NOT a PDA.

you dont need the PDA plan, all you need is the Vcast pack for 15$ (first month free, cancel anytime)
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flylikeme

Jan 31, 2008, 2:12 PM
that add up is only for regular phones not PDA/SMARTPHONE plans....
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LordObento

Jan 30, 2008, 9:31 PM
Rates for a dumbphone including Voyager
Rates are 450 Mins, Unlim In Network, Unlim N/W or Family Shares with 700 mins In Network, Unlim N/W

Basic 450 plan $39.99
Select W/ Unlimited Text $59.99
Prem W/ Unlimited Text, VCast(web), Mob E-mail, VZ Navigator $79.99

On the Basic and Select you can add $15 for VCast (web), $5 Mob E-mail, $9.99 VZ Nav

Family Share
Basic 700 $60 1st line $9.99 add
Select W/ Unlimited Text $90 1st line $9.99 add
Prem W/ Unlimited Text, VCast(web), Mob E-mail, VZ Navigator $130 1st line, $29.99 add for line w/ Web/E-mail/Nav/Text, $9.99 add for just Text.

PDA/Blackberries

You can take any Basic or Select plan above and add $44.99 for Unlimited Data or use a bundle plan.

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LordObento

Jan 30, 2008, 9:33 PM
I meant Iphones can't tether..
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lilgabe1

Jan 31, 2008, 4:15 AM
Thank you for clearing this up. Not sure what gonar is looking at. Looks like he is comparing apples, oranges, and watermelons.
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AvgJoe

Jan 31, 2008, 11:55 AM
lilgabe1 said:
Thank you for clearing this up. Not sure what gonar is looking at. Looks like he is comparing apples, oranges, and watermelons.


No he wasn't at all. He was looking for a plan equivalent to the iPhone plan apparently WITH THE SAME PHONE FEATURES (which includes tethering)
The answer simple should have been " No Verizon has no such plan because they do not have the iPhone. Therefore there is no "IPhone plan"
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lilgabe1

Jan 31, 2008, 4:17 AM
I'm going to activate on a premium plan when I get my voyager. It'll make life simpler. I look forward to using the mobile email service. I'd like to be able to check it during the day.
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ArmySF

Jan 30, 2008, 10:51 PM
Wow what a bunch of aholes, they act the same way at the store.
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Platypus

Jan 31, 2008, 10:59 AM
yup the reps on here suck they are so arrogant!
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yeahright

Jan 31, 2008, 9:53 AM
Ok, Lets just start over, you have everyone in here confused as hell. What are you buying? The voyager and the iphone are NOT PDA's if you want a full pda then i wouldn't look at either one of these devices because they are both lacking as full pda's in there own ways.

Ok with that said. If you want a pda I would suggest the following, Unless you need more text.

79.99 Email plan
This is the 450 minute plan, with unlimited WEB(yes it is included in these) and email access.

Then add a stand alone text/pix pack
$10 500 + unlimited vzw
$15 1500 + unlimited vzw

These will be your best options for a pda you end up at 89.99 or 94.99 a month

If cost is important to you you might check out a blackberry, pearl is pretty nice.
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Moruitelda

Jan 31, 2008, 10:09 AM
Gonar, fine, you didn't know what was going on. Before flipping out about Verizon ripping you off (as you perceived it do to bring uneducated), perhaps you should have gone to a store or called customer service to discuss your gripe, and they could have educated you. I am firmly of the conviction that customers who are not intimately familiar with their own usage and Verizon's plans should not order online, as there is no direct assistance.

Once you got here and my fellow Verizon employees started trying to explain how you were wrong, maybe you should have listened and not protested. Your failure to do proper research does not make your position in any way correct or justifiable.

Once people started to get angry with you, instead of ...
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thebiggestguy

Jan 31, 2008, 10:13 AM
Get use to it ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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Moruitelda

Jan 31, 2008, 10:18 AM
I don't really care about that, the iPhone is great and all, but gonar is comparing apples to oranges and then completely misquoting prices after being repeatedly told he is wrong, and refuses to back down. Gonar, the plan you want is 84.99 without tethering or 99.99 with tethering, but any PDA is a more full featured device than the iPhone and you should stop comparing them.
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SystemShock

Jan 31, 2008, 12:15 PM
thebiggestguy said:
Get use to it ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

See subject. Get used to it, until Apple finally gets off their ass and releases an 'iPhone 2.0'. ๐Ÿ˜•
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Platypus

Jan 31, 2008, 10:58 AM
Maybe if someone didn't call him a troll he would of up stayed a little calmer, this forum is always ripping ppl up! stupid ass reps thinking they know everything and they don't!!
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Moruitelda

Jan 31, 2008, 11:32 AM
Can you understand why he was called a troll? He certainly looked like an AT&T troll: he was completely misquoting Verizon prices to show how superior AT&T and the iPhone are, with an undertone of smug amusement. I read it as a troll post too.

So he wasn't, he was just comically wrong. He shouldn't be angry about that since his own rant based on a complete misinterpetation of Verizon's prices made him look like a troll in the first place. Once it became clear he was not a troll, we tried to help, he stayed stubborn and would not listen, and kept on reiterating his completely uninformed positions.
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lilgabe1

Jan 31, 2008, 11:36 AM
Again, very well said.
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Platypus

Jan 31, 2008, 11:41 AM
Just because you and others misinterpret what he was saying doesn't make it right to call him a troll. Nothing in his post said to me that he was trolling.


sure AT&T doesn't have as great signal, but verizon doesn't have 100% better signal either...yeah what a troll ๐Ÿ™„
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Moruitelda

Jan 31, 2008, 11:51 AM
That's not what it is about. In the first post he came in, guns blazing, with inaccurate information: VERIZON HAS NO PDA PLANS UNDER $115! Look at how cheap the iPhone is! I can get 3 iPhones for the cost of one Verizon PDA!

That looks pretty much identical to some AT&T trolls' attempts to poke holes in Verizon by using inaccurate information and what I loathe to call "creative" ignorance.

I am not saying anything about the relative qualities of the networks: I have had both, and may get an iPhone eventually myself. They are both fine, and have similar prices. I am not talking about AT&T's signal, I am saying his post of "(true information about AT&T) compared to (untrue information about a Verizon plan which is not really comparable...
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Platypus

Jan 31, 2008, 11:59 AM
I guess I did not read it that way, a lot of Verizon reps on here jump the gun fairly often. I read it as a man trying to decide what is the best deal for him..i can see how other might have misunderstood.. I just like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt!!! Most att trolls are well known in here and consistent in their endevor...I've never seen any post from him in the past of this nature, so he should not have been jumped on imo.
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lilgabe1

Jan 31, 2008, 11:35 AM
Very well said.
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bkw79

Jan 31, 2008, 8:01 PM
This is neither a good or fair comparison. The Iphone is a smartphone with a completely separate pricing structure. The fair and good comparison should be between the other pda plans the the companies have. Also, lets remember that the Voyager is not a smartphone like the Iphone is.
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yeahright

Feb 4, 2008, 2:56 PM
whaaaaaaaaaaaa

the iphone is not a smartphone. Come on now. don't make the mumble off the list
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a Girl

Jan 31, 2008, 10:57 PM
correction for gonar. you said that the verizon play includes unlimited text messaging with what you listed and then proceeded to say that att had the same thing for 59.99. not so..the 59.99 only includes 200 messages. add on another 20 bucks for unlimited messaging!
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chocolateman85006

Feb 1, 2008, 9:43 AM
He's also concerned abotut the internet.
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a Girl

Feb 1, 2008, 8:29 PM
so i see! the iphone plans technically break down as follows

39.99 voice plan 450
+20.00 iphone plan=unlimited media net (internet) and 200 text/picture messages
OR
+30.00 iphone plan=unlimited media net and 1500 message
OR
+40.00 iphone plan=unlimited media net and unlimited messages

or 59.99 voice plan 90
+20.00 iphone plan
OR
+30.00 iphone plan
OR
40.00 iphone plan

see the pattern? all the iphone plan is is a feature you can add on to any of atts voice plans ๐Ÿ™‚
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chocolateman85006

Feb 2, 2008, 12:51 PM
That makes sense.
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a Girl

Feb 4, 2008, 6:07 PM
yeah, would have been too complicated to make completely "new" plans. sorry if the last post sounded rude though! ๐Ÿ˜‰
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chocolateman85006

Feb 4, 2008, 6:21 PM
No biggie. I didn't even think that you were rude.
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MidnightDT

Feb 1, 2008, 7:04 PM
where did you get 115$ from?

450 min plan is 39.99
Unlimited Web, VOD, ESPN is 15$ (Vcast Vpak)
250 msg plan is 5$
add it up thats 59.99 and it includes everything the iPhone plan does and a little more (more messages, VOD and ESPN included)

want unlimited messaging? its 20$ on top of the iphone plan so thats 79.99 for at&t.

With Verizon Wireless you can get the 450 min select plan for 59.99 and add 15$ vpak thats 74.99 and has unlimited messaging, web, vod, and espn.

Verizon Wireless is cheaper then at&t. your math is off.
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vzwkelly

Feb 3, 2008, 5:46 PM
Or the same price if you include mobile email and vz navigator on the premium plan for 79.99 Either way it is extremely competitive with att's pricing. The biggest difference I think would be the VZ Navigator service which is superior to anything the iphone offers with google maps. Turn by turn directions, local searches and you can even message directions to other people.

For 89.99 you can even get mobile tv where it is available.
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vzman23

Feb 3, 2008, 12:40 PM
You'd look a lot smarter if you actually knew what you're talking about.
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