hoy cow! $115 a month for the most basic PDA plan with "unlimited" data!?!?!?
so the most basic "unlimited nationwide" pda plan with unlimited email, messaging and web, 450 minutes talk time, is $115 a month for 1 line. before taxes, surcharges and fees. (which is what I'd want if I got, say, a voyager (which also costs more than $150)).
the equivalent iPhone plan is $60/month. I could put a 2 iphone family plan in for $110 (3 phones for $140). that's what I'm paying now for a 3 phone basic family plan with unlimited text on only 1 line.
the cost difference between the cheapest smartphone on verizon and the iPhone is ~$250, so after 5 month...
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When you crunch those numbers, let's see how far the two carriers are off.
will54880 said:
How about we compare rate plans for a phone that both carriers have a model of, say the BB Pearl. Seeing the iPhone has its own rate structure, we are not comparing apples to apples.
When you crunch those numbers, let's see how far the two carriers are off.
But he is comparing the the same service on an iPhone which makes it an easy decision. Verizon has no comparison to the iPhone
chocolateman85006 said:
The Voyager is close, isn't it?
If it is then he has a point I guess
AvgJoe said:will54880 said:
How about we compare rate plans for a phone that both carriers have a model of, say the BB Pearl. Seeing the iPhone has its own rate structure, we are not comparing apples to apples.
When you crunch those numbers, let's see how far the two carriers are off.
But he is comparing the the same service on an iPhone which makes it an easy decision. Verizon has no comparison to the iPhone
Look again. As far as plans are concerned, the Verizon PDA plan with unlimited messaging is EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE per month as the iphone plan when you add unlimited messaging, and Verizon's plan is actually better:
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just went through the verizon website trying to do a cost comparison vs the most basic iPhone plan because when my current plan expires, I'm considering all my options.
so the most basic "unlimited nationwide" pda plan with unlimited email, messaging and web, 450 minutes talk time, is $115 a month for 1 line. before taxes, surcharges and fees. (which is what I'd want if I got, say, a voyager (which also costs more than $150)).
the equivalent iPhone plan is $60/month. I could put a 2 iphone family plan in for $110 (3 phones for $140). that's what I'm paying now for a 3 phone basic family plan with unlimited text on only 1 line.
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For a single line voyager will all the features, except vcast tv, it is 79.99 a month on the nationwide premium 450 mins with unlimited text, Internet, navigator, and email.
2 lines on a premium sharing 700 min is only 139.99 a month. if the second line only wants to do unlimited messaging you can get it down to 109.99.
1250 minutes, unlimited data, unlimited text, 6 pm nights, all for 50 bucks! plus a work discount!
BROWN27 said:
www.sprint.com/sero
1250 minutes, unlimited data, unlimited text, 6 pm nights, all for 50 bucks! plus a work discount!
Sprint's still in business? ๐ณ
450 min select with email is $99.99, not $115. This would be 450 mins, unlimited messages, unlimited data.
Voyager with unlimited data and unlimited messages would be $74.99, iPhone with same would be $79.98.
go to the website if you don't believe me.
I don't really give a darn if the iPhone rates are "Special", what I care about is that at the end of the day, a PDA phone and rate plan end up being $55 X 19 months cheaper if I get an iPhone on ATT vs even the cheapest PDA with roughly equivalent rate plan on verizon.
for me, the difference between 200 sms and unlimited is precisely zero, I have sent less than 50 SMS _ever_. however I would use email and the web all the time.
the 99$ plan includes unlimited web and email on the phone. 15$ more if you want to get it on your laptop aswell using the phone.
Second, I am a VZW employee..
Third, you are obviously missing major facts in your post and are posting just like many trolls.
Fourth, if you dont text why are you looking at the unlimited message plans even?
450 basic with email plan is 89.99.. that is a PDA plan.
Same services on AT&T would be 79.99 (450 min plan plus PDA personal.
So yes, VZW charges $10 more per month for equivalent service.. $10 does not equal $55
and if you look at the plans for heavy users, at VZW you can get 4000 mins with unlimited data for $169.99, that would be $179.99 at AT&T, so VZW would be $10 less.
and the middle ground at 1350 and 2000 mins both AT&T and VZW cost the same.
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I'm coming at this as a customer, not an insider with detailed knowledge of how to game the system to get the best rates (I find it borderline criminal the way _all_ cell phone companies screw people over like that).
I only know about the program options the web site presents me with.
I don't care about ATT's generic PDA plans, only the iPhone plans, because that is the phone I would get _IF_ I switched.
since Verizon doesn't offer the iPhone, the PDA-phones are the closest equivalent.
the Voyager, while nice, is not in the same league as a PDA or iphone.
So start under plans, pick voice and data plans since you want both..
So lets read what the site says.. under the first link is:
"A bundled package with voice allowance and wireless data usage for quick and easy remote access to email and attachments."
hmm that sounds like what you were looking for.
so then on the next page we see that 450 mins is 79.99. So we pick that and hit the button to continue.
So on the next screen we pick the phone, so lets pick the motorla q 9m..
On the next page we see this strange $15 number you keep pulling out of nowhere which...
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hmm... so you wanted to use your PDA as a modem as well but didnt include that charge for the iPhone (can the iPhone even do that?)
Yes it can and its included in the plan price. I think thats what he was referring to.
$5= 250 messages(including pictures)Most comparable to iphone plan with 200(so don't add the unlimites on thinking it is comparable)
Vcast is $15 for unlimited web use, you canalso check your email through that. $10 more if you want tv(but iphone does not have that so don't add it)
If you want mobile email alerts to come straight to your phone then mobile email is $5
SO lets add that up. 39.99+5+15+5= $65
Not sure where you got $115 because even if you did truely unlimited messaging it would be 39.99+20+15+5= $80 with unlimited text/pix/flix messaging
$99 for 450, text and email. $15 surcharge for web. $115 total.
I'm not an ATT fanboi, I left them 7 years ago because of crappy signal in my town. the signal issue is no longer a problem where I live.
if it is possible to get the rates you quote, verizon sure doesn't want it's customers to know about it, because it doesn't even present them as options.
And the plan is called the PREMIUM Plan it's $79.99 per month.
And, we also have a Nationwide with Email Select Plan for those phones that are in our PDA category. It's $99.99 per month, for 450 mins, unltd nights and weekends, in calling, unltd pda data, email, and txt messaging.
Once again I say....learn then come back with a legit gripe. And do you never pay attention to these forums? How many times do us reps preach about checkin with stores before goin with what's online. We got all sorts of plans hiding out that most of even basic customer service isn't aware of. If you don't believe me on this, i'll give you the price pla...
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they _very_ carefully say unlimited email and text/pix/flix messaging and nothing about WEB until you get to the extras page.
that's where I get the $15 surcharge.
gosh, with an attitude like yourse, I wonder why I'm considering switching to ATT.
I came here hoping for someone to convince me that I shouldn't switch. guess I got the answer I needed.
the 15$ charge is if you had a PDA (which the voyager isnt) and you wanted unlimited internet on your laptop (tethered).
That being said, if you want a Voyager with unlimited messaging, and unlimited data, you're looking $59.99 for the select plan plus $15 for VCAST...or $74.99
I said "cheapest PDA" which is the Q9M.
some other poster started talking about the voyager.
If you want a rate quote, go onto VZW's website, go to the section for phones, pick the phone you want to see the price for plans on, then pick your plan for it and then pick features...
the only thing I know of that is missing from the site is the $5 message package for 250 messages.. I dont know why it isnt there, but for some reason the people in charge dont want it on the site and I am sure we lose customers because of it.
PDA PDA PDA PDA
PDA PLANS!
99 for national, 450, unlimited email, sms
15 extra for unlimited data
(go ahead, go to the web site, "shop for plans"
step 1 pick plan ($99)
step 2 pick PDA (Q9M $150)
step 3 service options: Unlimited WEB $15
stop calling me a liar and look at the website
the voyager isn't a PDA and so would use a phone plan.
but the point I was trying to make is still valid, because the lowest number has quoted for a voyager with iPhone equivalent plan is $95/month, when combined with the $300 price of the voyager, the math is almost the same.
break even on Phone after after 3 months, then save 35/month for the next 21 months.
gonar said:
I was shopping PDA plans, and the cheapest PDA is the q9m for 150.
the voyager isn't a PDA and so would use a phone plan.
but the point I was trying to make is still valid, because the lowest number has quoted for a voyager with iPhone equivalent plan is $95/month, when combined with the $300 price of the voyager, the math is almost the same.
break even on Phone after after 3 months, then save 35/month for the next 21 months.
Just get the iPhone and be done with it. If you now have a good signal and like that phone.
Whenever anyone challenges Verizon on anything the Fan Boy Defense team headed by Primus will come out swingin first then asking questions. Don't be bothered by the extr...
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AvgJoe said:
Whenever anyone challenges Verizon on anything the Fan Boy Defense team headed by Primus will come out swingin first then asking questions. Don't be bothered by the extreme Kool-Aid drinkers. Just do your own research and make your choices. The Carrier forums are not research. The Phone section is. These Carrier forums are filled with angry employees who secretly and not so secretly hate their customers and competition. Just angry people grinding out a living.
As opposed to AvgJoe, the ATT fanboy so obnoxious than even other ATT fanboys can't stand him and yell at him? ๐คฃ
Myron, go on home. You're drunk again.
BTW I could care less whether or not a handful of of cell service salesmen in suits (Suits to sell phone service?) think of me on this forum or another regardless of which flavor they are drinking. Cell phone sakes rank just above Car sales people in the respect department. I understand your pain.
AvgJoe said:
I am an advocate of the GSM technology.
Oh, so you like OLD things. I get it. I think Model T's are kinda cool too. ๐
I AM a Nokia fanboy though.
That's unfortunate, considering that their US marketshare has dropped from 28% on down to 10% over the past few years. ๐ฒ
I guess US cellphone consumers just aren't diggin' their product.
SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
I am an advocate of the GSM technology.
Oh, so you like OLD things. I get it. I think Model T's are kinda cool too. ๐I AM a Nokia fanboy though.
That's unfortunate, considering that their US marketshare has dropped from 28% on down to 10% over the past few years. ๐ฒ
I guess US cellphone consumers just aren't diggin' their product.
SystemShock said:...AvgJoe said:
I am an advocate of the GSM technology.
Oh, so you like OLD things. I get it. I think Model T's are kinda cool too. ๐I AM a Nokia fanboy though.
That's unf
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AvgJoe said:
Oh and Why would anyone buy something just because it has a huge market share, By your clearly thoughtless analogy ATT is better than Verizon because it has a larger market share!
Sure, ATT has a larger marketshare... if you include prepaid. ๐
If were talking postpaid, then VZW is larger, actually.
Your post reeks of a mindless attempt at logic.
That makes no sense. Logic is never mindless. Unlike most of your posts.
Now hush. I'm off to the museum to look at GSM technology and other 'relics'. ๐
SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
Oh and Why would anyone buy something just because it has a huge market share, By your clearly thoughtless analogy ATT is better than Verizon because it has a larger market share!
Sure, ATT has a larger marketshare... if you include prepaid. ๐
If were talking postpaid, then VZW is larger, actually.Your post reeks of a mindless attempt at logic.
That makes no sense. Logic is never mindless. Unlike most of your posts.
Now hush. I'm off to the museum to look at GSM technology and other 'relics'. ๐
LOL yeah the world is certainly gearing up for the move into the future,,,,,,CDMA, ONe GUI,Crippled GPS...
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BROWN27 said:
๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ
Oh Brownie, brownie, brownie... stick to pimping Sprint. Even though they may be going out of business. ๐
What sounds better to you... 'Comcast Wireless', or 'GoogleMobile'? ๐
AvgJoe said:
LOL yeah the world is certainly gearing up for the move into the future,,,,,,CDMA, ONe GUI, Crippled GPS, Crippled BT......Theres the future? LOL
Stop at a library on the way to the museum and read a book.
The world's already headed into the future... or did you not notice that 3G GSM is called WCDMA for a reason, ace?
Even ancient GSM knows to borrow a better technology's air interface. ๐คฃ
Far as 'crippled BT' goes, way to reference 2005, Myron. Do catch up, now. ๐
The part that I think is funniest though is how you want to learn a new GUI with every phone you purchase. Sorry Myron, but other people have lives.
primus said:
You still arent listening. With voyager 450 mins is 39.99, vcast for data is 15 and 250 text messages would be $5... That would be $59.99
NO YOU aren't listening. He WANTS an phone that compares to the iPhone for the same rate and feature set. Verizon does not have a phone that even comes close to the iPhone and it's plans.
I hat the iphone and think it's terribly incomplete and has to be hacked but millions are buying it and apparently unlocking it becasue more phones have been sold then are activated....
gonar said:
I don't want a phone. didn't you read the first post at all?
PDA PDA PDA PDA
PDA PLANS!
99 for national, 450, unlimited email, sms
15 extra for unlimited data
(go ahead, go to the web site, "shop for plans"
step 1 pick plan ($99)
step 2 pick PDA (Q9M $150)
step 3 service options: Unlimited WEB $15
stop calling me a liar and look at the website
But isn't still a phone? ๐คจ
gonar said:
look at the PDA rate plans for national service.
$99 for 450, text and email. $15 surcharge for web. $115 total.
I'm not an ATT fanboi, I left them 7 years ago because of crappy signal in my town. the signal issue is no longer a problem where I live.
if it is possible to get the rates you quote, verizon sure doesn't want it's customers to know about it, because it doesn't even present them as options.
this is the RIGHT ADD UP!
you dont need the PDA plan, all you need is the Vcast pack for 15$ (first month free, cancel anytime)
Rates are 450 Mins, Unlim In Network, Unlim N/W or Family Shares with 700 mins In Network, Unlim N/W
Basic 450 plan $39.99
Select W/ Unlimited Text $59.99
Prem W/ Unlimited Text, VCast(web), Mob E-mail, VZ Navigator $79.99
On the Basic and Select you can add $15 for VCast (web), $5 Mob E-mail, $9.99 VZ Nav
Family Share
Basic 700 $60 1st line $9.99 add
Select W/ Unlimited Text $90 1st line $9.99 add
Prem W/ Unlimited Text, VCast(web), Mob E-mail, VZ Navigator $130 1st line, $29.99 add for line w/ Web/E-mail/Nav/Text, $9.99 add for just Text.
PDA/Blackberries
You can take any Basic or Select plan above and add $44.99 for Unlimited Data or use a bundle plan.
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lilgabe1 said:
Thank you for clearing this up. Not sure what gonar is looking at. Looks like he is comparing apples, oranges, and watermelons.
No he wasn't at all. He was looking for a plan equivalent to the iPhone plan apparently WITH THE SAME PHONE FEATURES (which includes tethering)
The answer simple should have been " No Verizon has no such plan because they do not have the iPhone. Therefore there is no "IPhone plan"
Ok with that said. If you want a pda I would suggest the following, Unless you need more text.
79.99 Email plan
This is the 450 minute plan, with unlimited WEB(yes it is included in these) and email access.
Then add a stand alone text/pix pack
$10 500 + unlimited vzw
$15 1500 + unlimited vzw
These will be your best options for a pda you end up at 89.99 or 94.99 a month
If cost is important to you you might check out a blackberry, pearl is pretty nice.
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Once you got here and my fellow Verizon employees started trying to explain how you were wrong, maybe you should have listened and not protested. Your failure to do proper research does not make your position in any way correct or justifiable.
Once people started to get angry with you, instead of ...
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thebiggestguy said:
Get use to it ๐คฃ ๐
See subject. Get used to it, until Apple finally gets off their ass and releases an 'iPhone 2.0'. ๐
So he wasn't, he was just comically wrong. He shouldn't be angry about that since his own rant based on a complete misinterpetation of Verizon's prices made him look like a troll in the first place. Once it became clear he was not a troll, we tried to help, he stayed stubborn and would not listen, and kept on reiterating his completely uninformed positions.
sure AT&T doesn't have as great signal, but verizon doesn't have 100% better signal either...yeah what a troll ๐
That looks pretty much identical to some AT&T trolls' attempts to poke holes in Verizon by using inaccurate information and what I loathe to call "creative" ignorance.
I am not saying anything about the relative qualities of the networks: I have had both, and may get an iPhone eventually myself. They are both fine, and have similar prices. I am not talking about AT&T's signal, I am saying his post of "(true information about AT&T) compared to (untrue information about a Verizon plan which is not really comparable...
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the iphone is not a smartphone. Come on now. don't make the mumble off the list
39.99 voice plan 450
+20.00 iphone plan=unlimited media net (internet) and 200 text/picture messages
OR
+30.00 iphone plan=unlimited media net and 1500 message
OR
+40.00 iphone plan=unlimited media net and unlimited messages
or 59.99 voice plan 90
+20.00 iphone plan
OR
+30.00 iphone plan
OR
40.00 iphone plan
see the pattern? all the iphone plan is is a feature you can add on to any of atts voice plans ๐
450 min plan is 39.99
Unlimited Web, VOD, ESPN is 15$ (Vcast Vpak)
250 msg plan is 5$
add it up thats 59.99 and it includes everything the iPhone plan does and a little more (more messages, VOD and ESPN included)
want unlimited messaging? its 20$ on top of the iphone plan so thats 79.99 for at&t.
With Verizon Wireless you can get the 450 min select plan for 59.99 and add 15$ vpak thats 74.99 and has unlimited messaging, web, vod, and espn.
Verizon Wireless is cheaper then at&t. your math is off.
For 89.99 you can even get mobile tv where it is available.