GOODBYE USCC!
HELLO CELLULARONE! Why am I leaving you ask? Cause all of USCC's cellphones are locked down featureless P.O.S. And why do I say that? Cause USCC's underhanded business practice of locking out or completely removing features on cellphones in an attempt to force people to use EasyEdge. What features am I talking about? Features like the tranfer of ringtones and images via USB cable or Bluetooth. Why even bother having a camera phone if I cannot get the images off the phone? USCC has remove or locked out the transfer feature of their phones in an attempt to force people to use MMS to get those images off their phone. Another good feature is Bluetooth, but once again USCC wants to screw their customers by locking out or removing the OBEX featur...
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GSM is the standard huh? Thats why Verizon is the number one network that also just so happens to be CDMA I guess. You might wanna wait until you get this wonderful GSM phone and not be able to make calls where you need to before you bash the network or any other CDMA network for that matter.
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uhhhh you can buy a data cable to transfer your pics. USCC does not cripple their features like other carriers. I do agree though EE is the gayest thing I have ever seen
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Giftbuddy, already tried USB cable. Doesn't work at all for rintone and images, that feature has been removed. All I can do with USB cable is sync contacts and calender with my computor, big wooptydo. I spent $50 on useless mPT and a cable, just to do that. What a waste. For what, so USCC can force me to use EE. See my gripe here?
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i have mobile phone tools and i can put any ringtone i want onto my phone. so you may need some type of upgrade for your program. if that still doesnt work then motorola did not intend to use the program for that phone, and then that is not uscc's fault. the only reason uscc would prevent a phone from doing that, which they dont, it would be so idiots dont screw up their phone and then who pays for it?
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hes the kind of person who leaves phone reviews the second he gets home and right out of the box like "pro's: shiny, pretty, looks good on my hip"
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No, it not about the newest, shinyest, or coolest. It's about features being removed to force people to use EE. I like my V810, but after being stripped of ringtone and image tranfer via USB cable, it isn't any better of a phone than my old StarTac was. My V810 is like light years ahead of the old StarTac, but it's just basically only a phone with all the good features stripped out. Now do you see what I'm upset about?
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the v810 is the worst phone motorola has ever made, hands down, and that is really bad considering the crap they pump out. now if you cannot transfer ringtones it is because of your lack of technical knowledge, because i have done it with my phone with no problem, and my phone isnt even supposed to do that. i have no idea why you would even mention bluetooth in "stripped features" because not only do you not have a bluetooth phone, you would not even know what do with one if you had it, besides the fact that it is the most useless piece of fad technology in the FREAKING WORLD! you really need to not only get your priorities straight you need to learn a bit about what you yourself are complaining about. if you want to complain about us cellul...
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I've tried every peice of software out there to read the filesystem of this Brew phone and nothing will read it. Not PST, QPST, or BitPim. I've tried everthing, tell me how the filesystem is, what comes after /"root" on the V810. I'll make a deal with ya if you can tell me how to get into the filesystem of the V810 then I will continue to use USCC. I just want the tranfer feature to work like Motorola says it should. I'm not giving USCC one red cent to get the images off my phone.
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i am not interested in keeping you as a customer, just to save the customer service rep in your area the trouble of ever having to deal with you.
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Do you really think that uscc had any control over the software on the phone. Regardless of what motorola says almost every cdma phone they have released is "locked down" in some form or another. Uscc does make great strides to limit a customer ability to transfer ringtones, images, and etc to and from the phone. Just as Microsoft makes great strides to keep windows from beng pirated. Uscc regardless of there beliefs about customer service being the number on thing to the company it is still a business and has to turn a proffitt other cellphone carriers also limit the same things. You are just upset because you purchased the worst phone in USCC history. You can transfer to and from any phone you just have to know how to do it.
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Please educate me. I've tried just about every piece of software that I can find online and none of them can read my phones filesystem. It's either hiddem or has been encrypted. I can flash my phone with PST but I still cannot enable the mutimedia feature. I cannot get anything to read the SEEMs im my phone.
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alejandro said:
i am not interested in keeping you as a customer, just to save the customer service rep in your area the trouble of ever having to deal with you.
Hey alejandro you're a stupid jerkoff! You don't know jack! You just want to sell phones to little old ladies who don't know squat. That way you don't have to worry about fullfilling all the empty promises your cell phone company makes. Your cell phone company's a rip off. Just admit it moron.
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Ok so what u saying is that The phone that Us cellular sell for 300 is crap , and also that bluetooth is "fad technology in the FREAKING WORLD!" but for some reason every new phone that comes out has it ...hmm. I have only one question why should I buy softwares and data cables for the phone that should work without . US Celllular is like buying Corvette that is governed to 25 miles per hour... đ˛
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You got that right my friend. alejandro let it slip that his cell phone company is basically ripping people off.
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Yes GSM is lacking in some places, but within the next 5-10 years I'd say it will be more prevailant. But the network isn't my gripe, the CDMA works great. My gripe is the removing of features that should be on our phones. Please don't defend USCC by claiming they don't do this practice. It's rediculous to remove ringtone and image tranfer via USB cable or bluetooth, just in an attempt to force customers to use EE. Especially when the ringtone is one that I created at home or a pic from my camera phone that I cannot get off the phone unless I use EE. Now do you see where I'm comming form on this.
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you have a 710 and you do not know how to use it? i always think people who buy that phone but don't know how to work it need to cancel their service anyway, goodbye scotsman. and prevailant is not a word.
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HAHAHAHAHA good, that is pro-active karma. then i do not even understand why you would complain about bluetooth as well.
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Someone should complain about bluetooth. I mean why bother putting bluetooth enabled phones into your line-up, if all the tranfer features are stripped out so the only feature of the bluetooth is headset connection. Another attempt to restrain image and ringtone transfers to force people to use EE.
I must be pissing off all the USCC rep here cause I'm revealing there DIRTY LITTLE COMPANY SECRET. Oh well I guess it's like shouting at the deaf.
I must be pissing off all the USCC rep here cause I'm revealing there DIRTY LITTLE COMPANY SECRET. Oh well I guess it's like shouting at the deaf.
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You have never seen a bluetooth phone, let alone touched one. you know nothing about what you are talking about, because not only do i know you are wrong, everyone else with a v710 knows you are wrong as well. I do not like you because you are stupid, as you can see on the other thread i am very upset with us cellular.
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If you are referring to OBEX on the 710, Motorola never put it there to begin with, so it was not ours to remove.
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I'm slowly digging up the truth on this situation. It seem to all point in one direction, Qualcomm. Their proprietary chips and their proprietary BREW. But Motorola isn't totally innocent in this matter, neither is USCC, they tell Motorola what to put in the software of each phone. USCC determines which phone have certain features and Motorola obeys. I guess this what you'd call losing the battle as a customer. All the companies involved are in this togather. How can customers possibly get anything done going up against 3 powerhouses like Qualcomm, Motorola, and USCC. I give up.
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If it makes you feel better USCC is not a powerhouse... VZW or Cingy are powerhouses. They are the ones that can tell Moto what to do... Geez, USCC and others have to create buying coops or alliances to get manufacturers to do what they want them to do... Other than that Teir 1 operators get the pick-o-the-litter. USCC has to wait months to get even the hand-me-downs...
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u arent pissing any of us off because you are revealing a "dirty little company secret" its your ignorance that is pissing people off. the are programs available to create ringtones. i have put "homemade" ringtones on LG's and Motorola's both the 810 and 710 as well.
contrary to what you believe uscc is not a non profit organization. any company that outsources a company to provide a service to their customers is going to charge the customer to use that service.
contrary to what you believe uscc is not a non profit organization. any company that outsources a company to provide a service to their customers is going to charge the customer to use that service.
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Ya well guess what here in washington we have a USCC and let me tell ya, it sucks! I had it and GSM (cingular) has alot better call clarity and service! Sorry USCC but your going down in a earlyer round.
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Southern Oregon here, where i am at there are alot of dead areas. Here is who works the best:
USCC
Verizon
Sprint
-Note that the two above that are not USCC roam from the USCC Towers. GSM SUX, and always drops the calls before USCC. I HATE CINGULAR!
USCC
Verizon
Sprint
-Note that the two above that are not USCC roam from the USCC Towers. GSM SUX, and always drops the calls before USCC. I HATE CINGULAR!
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Yes. GSM is the standard. IN THE REST OF THE WORLD. As he said originally. I did a quick check on a few random countries around the world to find out what cellular networks they had available. Guess what i saw most. You guessed it. GSM. I saw some CDMA too mixed in but mostly GSM. That's because that's what everyone else uses. For some idiotic reason the US is a little slow in following. Thankfully Cingular and a few smaller carriers offer a GSM network. Yes i love the CDMA coverage that USC has since i'm a customer and i've been happy with them for several years. But CDMA is old hat and GSM offers far better phones.
And as for not being able to "make calls where you need to", I had a cingular phone for a short time a little while back and ...
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And as for not being able to "make calls where you need to", I had a cingular phone for a short time a little while back and ...
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Why do you call me an idiot. Cause I don't want to waste money on a service I don't need like EE. I shouldn't have to pay USCC to get pics from my camera phone or to transfer home made ringtones to my phone via USB cable. Please don't insult my intellegence.
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nobody needs to insult it, you do it yourself when you cant spell intelligence.
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Whatever! Flame away, I still consider my complaint a valid one. Maybe you reps should try listening to your customers more instead of trying to discredit them whenever they have a legitamate complaint.
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I'm just typing too fast and not using spell checker. I have no problems with my spelling.
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Your spelling errors are not typos, i type faster than you, I'm sure. They are indicative of a school system with major systematic problems, are you from the south?
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I will not even justify your response. I have had enough or your useless banter.
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alejandro said:
nobody needs to insult it, you do it yourself when you cant spell intelligence.
cant should be can't
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gandalf1 said:alejandro said:
nobody needs to insult it, you do it yourself when you cant spell intelligence.
cant should be can't
Never mind anything that Alejandro says. He is prejudiced against Mexicans. He really believes that Mexicans can not work for USCC. If you don't believe me, just ask him. Besides that, he is a closet lesbian.
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Besides that, he is a closet lesbian đ¤Ŗ
Now that's funny. Thanks I need to lighten up a bit. If someone can tell me the right programs to use with this V810 to enable the ringtone and image tranfer I will stay with USCC. I just have no use for EE.
Now that's funny. Thanks I need to lighten up a bit. If someone can tell me the right programs to use with this V810 to enable the ringtone and image tranfer I will stay with USCC. I just have no use for EE.
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U are an idiot because u don't want to pay money for something that should be free.lol or at least that's alot more easy to say than to admit that USCC EE is an abortion victim of data services.
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I only post to this board when I have a question that needs answered. But I felt I must comment on this one. I just switched from Cell One to USC and I have to say that I would give up cool phones any day to get the service that I am getting with USC now. What good is that great phone from CellOne when you cant use it? And, I know from experience, there are many places where you are used to getting good recep with USC that you will never get recep with CellOne. I live in a rural area and these 2 carriers are tho only ones that I have to choose from. Take my word for it, you will be sorry.
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It's not the network that I have a problem with. I think the CDMA is working great even though GSM will begin to overtake CDMA in 5-10 years. The problem I have is a company stripping their phones of features in an attempt to force people to use EE. It all comes down to the features that are supposed to be there but have been removed once again to force poeple to use EE data service. That is my biggest gripe.
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i thought he couldn't stop saying gripe because he could not spell grievance.
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You guys are childish. You are completely trying to spin my complaint into something you can flame me about. Are there any mature reps here who will discuss this in an adult fashion?
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you have been less than adult in your entire post, i suggest you read your original thread post if you have lost sight of that fact.
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Wow. You should learn to express your emotions. Please, tell us how you really feel.
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The reason why some of those features are disabled is that we either don't service them or they don't work on the network. Not because we are maliciously trying to keep you from something. Jeesh, If I were that evil, I'd have the million dollar powerball numbers and not ever having to work again...
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Why would ringtone transfer via USB cable have anyting to do with USCC network settings? I'm not that stupid and I've heard that response before. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the CSR's are responsible for this type of feature being removed. If my phone has the ability to tranfer my phonebook contacts, my calender schedule, and even SMS, MMS between my computor and phone via USB cable, then I know it also has the ability to transfer ringtones and images in the same manner.
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I agree it should be as easy as finding some bit of software that recognizes the Moto's file system... In all honesty once that is found, the phone should work like a USB thumb drive..
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I did thanks and i don't see how any of that was shady. Sorry but i understand its hard to up and move but not all companies offer to help their reps move or offer them any kind of severance. you know?
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The line up of phones are the ones that work the best on our system yes it maybe small but atleast we aren't shoving out products that don't work and causing cust to be unhappy that way.
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"...causing cust to be unhappy that way."
No, but USCC is causing them to be unhappy with the phone selection, or lack there of.
What good is having a great network, service plan, or customer service if nobody wants the 5-6 handsets you have to sell? Wireless is the complete package from switch to tower to handset to people. When one part is poor the whole deal suffers.
You have to ask yourself..What would churn be if we had what the customer wanted? Why do handsets work on other netwoks but not ours?
Instead of blasting the customer for wanting more, why not blast yourselves (USCC as a whole) into giving them what they are asking for?..and then some.
No, but USCC is causing them to be unhappy with the phone selection, or lack there of.
What good is having a great network, service plan, or customer service if nobody wants the 5-6 handsets you have to sell? Wireless is the complete package from switch to tower to handset to people. When one part is poor the whole deal suffers.
You have to ask yourself..What would churn be if we had what the customer wanted? Why do handsets work on other netwoks but not ours?
Instead of blasting the customer for wanting more, why not blast yourselves (USCC as a whole) into giving them what they are asking for?..and then some.
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Um.. we have had to send almost every model of Motorola in for charging issues, and all the LG 5550's in for screen issues. If there are two different swap programs going right now (5550 to a 4750 and a v810 to a 266) then I would say that we actually do have some products that don't work. We have had customers in our store YELLING about their 5550's because they've sent them in 3 and 4 times and we swapped out so many 262's and 265's with the speaker issue. So I would say we kind of are actually causing the customers to be unhappy. But... at least we are trying to rectify the situation with the swap program. It just seems for like the small amount of phones that we have, we do have a pretty decent amount of problems with them.
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I personally loved my 5550. It had the issues with the screen and some with the speaker as well. But overall it was a great phone. I absolutely loved the UI. Unfortunately when i took it to my local USCC store, Madison, WI, they told me that there was no longer an exchange program for it and i would have to send it in for the outrageous length of time it takes LG to fix them and use a loaner (shudder). You say that you have a program to exchange to a 4750? Wish they would have given me that option. Now i'm running a motocrapola v262 which i despise. I used my signal insurance to get my phone replaced due to electrical failure and this is what they sent me. Now i wait daily hoping to hear news of the 6255i so i can buy that to replace this PO...
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i just exchanged mine, although i really loved mine, it was giving me problems and i am 4 months away from my contract end date. the deal is until december 31st i believe and not only do you get the phone and charger exchanged we are giving free car chargers as well, thats the deal.
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Any chance you think i could take in my 262 and tell them that i had a 5550 and explain what happened and they would give me the exchange phone? I'd really love to go back to an LG if i could just to get away from this 262.
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no, this is something us cellular would not be doing if LG was not paying for it. You would need to bring back the phone, the charger and the battery to do an exchange and it has to have been sent out for repair before. i would assume those records would be required, this is not something we could do if you have a motorola phone, someone said they were trading out 810's for 266's but any change from a motorola to a motorola would be just as bad.
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Scotsman, you are right! I've worked for USCC, worked for one agent for USCC, and currently work for an exclusive agent for USCC and I also have had a V810, V60, V262 and now a V710. I loved the old V60 and loved the V810, but Motorola does disable the software due to USCC's request on the V810. I can fully utilize the data cable for ringtones and pix on the v262 and v710. Someone must have wised up since USCC got the V810 out on the market and realized that was a crappy thing to do to those of us with USCC service. I've had USCC for 15 years now. Always been great, except for this one thing about the v810.
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You people are out of your minds!! these are cell phones we are talking about!! remember cell phones? those are the mobile phones that were supposed to make life easier by making communication easier on the go. Now you people whine about them not playing music, displaying pictures, taking video, transfering to sync up with computers, making you a sandwich, etc. Would you expect your home phones to do these things? the most important thing is that you get great reception, and good service. Most phones will work great if taken care of. Anyone who knows anything about cell service knows that you cannot throw them around like car keys, or they will not work, and there will always be areas that you will not get service. All cell phones pull ser...
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If this is they case that you make. Then why even bother offering a dataservice. If the company's only concern is reliable cell phone service. Why doesn't USCC request that all the cellphone manufacturers remove all the features so the phone is just that, a cellphone. How long do ya think USCC would be in business if they just sold stripped down phones without any features. NOT LONG! PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO ELECTRONICS WITH FEATURES. I guarentee that if a phone like the Motorola ROKR was available for say $19 w/2 year service agreement, USCC wouldn't be able to keep them in stock.
Like I said before, this is all useless banter anyway. The only true concern of any corperation is HIGHER PROFIT MARGINS BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY! S.S.D.D.
Like I said before, this is all useless banter anyway. The only true concern of any corperation is HIGHER PROFIT MARGINS BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY! S.S.D.D.
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uscc had motorola to disable the email client on the v710 so that you had to buy soda pop mail from them.email client would work with /pop3/smpt/inap4 but usc had moto to daiable it. âšī¸
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I'm not taking sides with anyone here, just pointing out what I found with my phone while experimenting.
I just reflashed my moto 710 with the manufacturer firmware (not USCC's) and the phone still does not have an email client, bluetooth works minus obex (which was never part of the 710). the one real item that the moto firmware has that the USCC firmware did not was wap browser. after trying the wap browser for about a week I can see why it is disabled, so far 9 out of 10 times the browser crashes the phone to a point where I have to reflash it in order for it to turn on.
I just reflashed my moto 710 with the manufacturer firmware (not USCC's) and the phone still does not have an email client, bluetooth works minus obex (which was never part of the 710). the one real item that the moto firmware has that the USCC firmware did not was wap browser. after trying the wap browser for about a week I can see why it is disabled, so far 9 out of 10 times the browser crashes the phone to a point where I have to reflash it in order for it to turn on.
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Actually on the moto 710 you can use the usb cable and various software found online to load mp3s to your phone and use them as ringtones ands such. It works to d/l your pics to your pc also. I know it is possible since myself and a few others have done it. Now its up to you to use the thing on your shoulders to figure out like the rest of us how.
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I have tryed every piece of software that is supposed to read BREW cellphones but nothing will read my V810's filesystem. BitPim doesn't work, QPST's filesystem reader won't work. It says either my phone doesn't have an embedded filesystem or it is hiddem. I can get most of the features on PST to work, but PST has no filesystem reader. P2KPST say's my files system is in an invalid format. P2K Manager won't recognise my phone at all. BrewSky8900 isn't designed to work with USCC. mPT doesn't allow mutimedia tranfer on the V810, I've tried other phones in the setup menu and it still cannot read my phone's filesystem. I could go on and on.
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