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Sprint needs to loose Nextel iden Concentrate on WiMax

Keovani

May 4, 2007, 9:04 AM
Sprint needs to loose Nextel iden Concentrate on WiMax. WiMax is the only thing that can pull sprint out the hole. Sprint was known for innovative cellphones..now its known for its dataplans. SO why not concentrate on making that better and loose the dead weight. It was a dumb acquisition in the first place. And now it shows in the numbers. Everyone knew a hybrid network(Iden/CDMA wouldnt work..!

Even BoyGenius agrees
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/03/sprint-nex ... »
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 9:07 AM
That wimaxx that your drooling over... operates on spectrum that NEXTEL was given by the fcc in exchange for vacating their lower band spectrum so with out the supposed "dead weight" you wouldnt even be drooling over wimaxx.
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 9:15 AM
hmm...damn...good point...didnt know that...i say if there's a will there can be a way..dont know which way...but sprint needs to figure it out soon..because loosing 220,000 cuztomers every month..and loosing a 20 billion govt contract cant be good for business
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 9:33 AM
With regarding the contract, they still have others with the government as well as there is still another contract that they could get due to their Wimax and network.

Also, remember, Sprint’s CDMA business and Nextel’s Boost are doing great, but Nextel’s postpaid is doing horribly.
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raycarroll70

May 4, 2007, 10:09 AM
Just wait until Boost Mobile's unlimited plan grows out of the CA and TX markets where it currently launched. Wireless carriers like Metro PCS and Cricket Wireless will end up shaking and quaking in their boots. I pray though Boost Mobile will add a few more CDMA handsets to their line up as I wouldn't give a Motorola C290 to even my worst enemy. LOL!
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 10:29 AM
I think with that and with Qchat and those dual mode phones if all that is successful then Boost would be making a transition between IDEN and CDMA but only if the ROIC is there that Sprint wants because otherwise they will continue to fund IDEN, especially since it does have a lot of core customers that still stick with the company and network. Qchat would definitely help as well as the dual mode phones when it comes to DO like the IC902 because customers on the IDEN network are starting to want data and other applications where IDEN cannot deliver. I think that is why you are seeing many of the customers are leaving.

However, great point with Boost. You still like that C290? Haha. It would be a good idea to come up with more devices bu...
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 9:24 AM
No that is actually wrong. You are talking about the 1.9 GHz and the consensus plan in which has nothing to do with the MMDS spectrum that is in discussion with the Wimax network.
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 9:26 AM
hmmm so then they could loose "dead weight"...hmmmm
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 9:30 AM
Well I posted a reply to this to you on another post so perhaps you should read it. It is not exactly dead weight but there are things that are needed in place to work before IDEN is sold or spun off if you will.
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 9:43 AM
ok.. sorry.. but lets be honest if IDEN is dying its because Sprint shot it... Nextel was kicking arse and taking names in the industry and then with the merger it became some convulouted version of its former self.
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 9:57 AM
Well there are some aspects of IDEN that is not dying but yes, overall that is true.

Some examples there are not dying; prepaid voice ARPU and Data ARPU. Still strong with the business and government markets.

Things that are dying; postpaid ARPU, churn, and Data ARPU.

As well as capacity issues as of a result of that consensus plan which Nextel tried to help the FCC. I think that actually messed up Nextel and not Sprint.
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 10:02 AM
Well the consensus plan was there to try and help the govt and to make a way for the expansion of the network... get off of moto's iden network and bring the consumers more choices in handsets and manufactorers(sp) because if you remember that around the time of the consensus plan they were having it out with moto about the speed with which they produced updates to the phones that were available for iden.
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 10:23 AM
Yes, I know what the consensus plan was supposed to do unfortunately; I think it actually was to the downfall of this problem Nextel is facing on their prepaid and postpaid units especially when it comes to spectrum and network capacity. If you can recall, Boost actually was facing difficulty with network capacity because of the spectrum that needs to be re-tuned, and then re-established on the IDEN network. If you recall, the consensus plan was that they were going to give up SOME spectrum in the 700 and 800 MHz but they were going to receive contiguous spectrum in the 800 MHz and 1.9 GHz bands. It seemed like both the FCC and Nextel didn’t count that there would be facing difficulty with the transition as it has become a nightmare for Barr...
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 10:56 AM
in order for nextel go get manufactorer(sp) diversity that it was aiming for it would need to leave the iden network as moto aint giving up the secrets to the chirp tech for another company to use in the manufacture of phones
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 10:58 AM
that should read "secrets"... as im sure every manufacorer has already deconstructed the tech and reproduced but doesnt want to pay moto any type of licensing fee...
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 11:09 AM
Well, not exactly because Nextel could still talk to others to deploy other phones using the Qchat situation however that have to be on the REV A network, which they do not have. (Not including Sprint's CDMA) Alternatively, they can use the Wimax network in which they are going to build to use voice or data.

Remember Nextel has RIMM or the blackberry so it can be done it just is a little bit more difficult. That is why it was essential for Nextel to secure those 800mhz and 1.9ghz spectrum to deploy CDMA. It has nothing to do with trade or chip secrets as evident with the Blackberry. It just has to deal with the proper payments of the companies involved, which is very difficult to do.
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 11:14 AM
I think nextel was eating some of the payments that rimm was making to moto anyway just so they could get the bb because it was something that business customers were demanding...
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 11:23 AM
The point is, it can be done whether there are payments or not. Obviously with Qchat it enables other handsets besides Motorola but Motorola will be a huge play in this situation as they Qualcomm and Sprint have created Qchat and the bridge associated with the solution.
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 11:50 AM
I just hope Qchat is everything they want it to be and more... because if it doesnt work when nothing else will its going to be pointless, and if instant aint really instant its pointless, and when is this Qchat coming? are we waiting for it along with wimax?
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 12:03 PM
Yes Qchat is everything that people want especially since Nextel, Qualcomm and Motorola probably the 3 best companies in their respected industry when it comes to developing technology is at the helm. There were a few testing most notably at the show where they showed off this solution which delivered 1.5 seconds of set up calling, which was 2 years ago I believe, and seamless on the intra calling. It will definitely be better than every offering there is and should be close to IDEN’s current offering. According to some sources it is pretty close to that 1 second set up call level, however, I cannot go into further detail as it is not in public record. 1.5 seconds is very very fast and customers will not really see a materially affect especi...
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 1:28 PM
Thas cool.. Im in the dc market... I have the i930 and cant find anything I want to trade it for... so i hope they come with something phenominal as far as a data device is concerned...
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 1:44 PM
Surprising since the i930 is junk. Perhaps the IC902 might suit you.
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 5, 2007, 2:23 PM
really.. I think i feel in love with the fact that i can pull up my phone book from the home screen and just need to type a name or number to go to that person.. ohh and the web browser is cool for what I use it for I know there are nicer phones on the market ... but for what i use my phone for im cool.. ohh yea plus i dont pay for any of my data usage so im not switchin companies any time soon...
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nextel18

May 7, 2007, 3:53 PM
Yea there have been a lot of issues with the i930 and as you know it was delayed by a few years and when it came out there are better devices out there. You are right though that interface and phone book ability is quite unique. The web, unfortunately, is horrible especially since it is on the IDEN network.
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 9:28 AM
It is not as easy as just getting rid of the IDEN network even though that would make sense to do, but Boost is still profitable for the network. When/If the current testing of the unlimited plans that Boost is participating and when Qchat comes onto the market and Boost uses it, then it might be a good idea to get rid of IDEN but again that comes at some difficulty because they have to move over those IDEN customers on both the postpaid and prepaid units and as of now it is very difficult to do so. Once they come out with more dual mode devices such as the IC902 and Qchat then we will see how many actually go over to the CDMA platform but as of right now they only have 400k people out of the 1.2 million who left IDEN so far.

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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 1:28 PM
This is all theoretical if this happens and if that happens..right now..sprints in the crapper..and the govt wimax contract is still elusive since the military is still only thinking about it.
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 1:50 PM
Well those are the plans and if they can actually execute on those they can be a powerful company like they should be instead of where they are now. I would not say Sprint is in the “crapper” I just would say that there are good things about the company and bad things, but they still are gaining net ads and having some positive catalysts that are going on now and in the future. I said this before the merger and after the merger it is about execution and if one cannot then they would be unsuccessful no matter how many assets and how powerful those assets are. Perhaps they got over themselves and did not think about every step and strategy clearly.

If Wimax performs like we all think it will and if execution on Sprint’s behalf is optimal ...
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 1:54 PM
very well said..they just need to hurry up and put this elusive wimax palm slim 4g device into production, and shame the prada and iphone
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 2:18 PM
Very true. Soon we shall see how dominant Sprint can really be.
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dead_psycho1

May 7, 2007, 9:31 AM
i think they should come out with a rarz/krzr like device that has wimax evdo rev.A cdma and iden for walkie talkie and have it have linux so it can be a smart phone or just a high end phone for some.
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nextel18

May 7, 2007, 3:23 PM
Have all those in one? It will not happen but you will see a dual CDMA/WIMAX device. It also depends how Qchat does on the CDMA REV A network and perhaps you will see the push to talk solution with the dual mode device. In addition, WIMAX is primarily for data as of right now later might be a different story. Having all of those radios in one device will not be good for it on a number of levels; 1. Battery life. 2. Interference and other RF issues and 3. Pricing.
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