AT&T-Compatible Version of Nexus One for Sale from Google

I would also like to add on to that by saying the OP didn't mention Android AT ALL in his/her post. He/she said that consumers should have the option to buy the handset directly from the manufacturer and not from the wireless provider.

And when do they not have this option?

try buying an iphone unlocked.

They more or less go for about $1000.00 for the 3gs 32gb. Unless one finds themselves in Italy, Australia and a handful of other countries which they are sold that way, and even then, you're talking like $800.00. And if the carrier branded stores will sell it to you?

What I mean is that the concept of "buy a device, take it where you will" is foreign in the us still. Even if you buy a device without extending your contract (like I did) it's still branded and has whatever software the carrier wants for it unless you pay an insane amount for an unlocked one.

I really like the concept of google.com/phone because the device is unlocked, no matter what.

You gotta be a frinkin izombie to pay that much! ! !

Sprint requires a two year contract even if one purchases phone from manufacturer or Ebay etc...

Ok, what about the other Android handsets "With Google" that are stuck at 1.6?

Exactly.

You have to be a fool to think this is anything resembling a cohesive development model, and you'd have to be a fool to pay full price in this kind of ecosystem where to keep your phone up to date you basically void your warranty

(as you have done 🙂 )

Since you are so wrapped up in your little iPhone bubble you might not be aware that a lot of people import phones from overseas all the time paying these kinds of prices. There are many people that buy phones directly from the manufacturers as well. A cellphone is like any device out there. You buy it, it gets outdated, you buy a new one when you are over the current features. Besides, most people that spend money on phones are not buying it because of the software upgrade-ability or an app store, they are buying it for the present technology offered on it and how it applies to their personal/business life. Manufacturers keep their software updated all the time for at least the first year, maybe even two, of the device life-cycle. Nobody wi...
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Also there is a lot to be said for unlocked, unbranded, unbloated and being able to use this on $10 medianet (with family texting) and no contract. Five hundred and some odd dollars is more or less ok for no subsidy smartphone.

And the above holds true for various phones, not only the n1 and google.

Versed! I am feeling way, way tempted to take the N1 plunge! I think I'm going to wait for some reviews to come up on the web, cause the Tmo N1 had some issues and I want to see if they have been ironed out.

Jayshmay said:
Versed! I am feeling way, way tempted to take the N1 plunge! I think I'm going to wait for some reviews to come up on the web, cause the Tmo N1 had some issues and I want to see if they have been ironed out.

I did it earlier today. Now I'm wondering, just how true to free overnight shipping they provide?

Oonh, your more jump the gun than me!!! I want a review from you. I want to know if it has any of the same problems the Tmo N1 had.
That noise cancelation feature is really cool!

Oh, and feel free to order me one too!

LOL, I've been using Android for over a year, and recently played with an N1, they guys said he has had no problems. As usual, and in many cases things get blown out of proportion to the real problem.

Ohkay! ! ! Good to know. I like my N95, but it's March 2010, and it's time to move onto something that is more
2010ish! I'm just glad I can tether with Android! PDAnet! Dn you tether? My N95 gets hot I tether.

Versed! Your getting closer tn jumping the gun!!!

Whoah! That $240 savings on the data plan rips his argument to shreds. I suppose that is why he snipes an irrelevant comment here or there and then disappears. If you don't want tp pay full retail for this phone...we GET IT. We really do. Now shut up...please.

I just realized that if one factors in TWO years with the $10 data plan as opposed to the $30 one that is $480. The phone nearly pays for itself!

What makes you think I've never purchased a phone directly from the manufacturer? If you've even read my earlier posts you'd know I buy unlocked phones all the time.

But it's a stupid proposition for the average consumer. You don't save any money, you instead pay an extra $200.00 for having the privilege of ending your contract early.

Additionally, competing platforms have turned the contract lock-in into a revenue stream paying for platform development. That's why a 3 year old iPhone runs the latest OS- something unheard of not too long ago. Right now most brand-new Android handsets can't run the brand-new OS, so you mean to tell me it's a wise investment? 🙄

1) I can still warranty my phone, because it will be impossible for them to detect I rooted it.

2) You don't understand android, you don't understand anything but one business model.

Enjoy your iphone, I'll enjoy my droid. There being actual Competition for your precious device isn't reason for you to attack android so viciously.

Let's face it, if you really thought Android would fail, or that it's system wouldn't work, you wouldn't feel the urge to slam it every time news was posted.

1) Providing you can restore it. What if you can't? Point stands- your warranty in its current state is void. Period. I can un-jailbreak an iPhone too.

2) My job is to say "I told you so" with each and every promise Android fails to live up to. I think the OS is very clearly a fraud that has bilked people (incuding you) out of promised functionality by Google's inability to manage this platform's development.

The only people who think otherwise are people who don't know what they're talking about, as you're very clearly indicating.

If my phone is fried I can still try warrantying it. Multiple tech reps have posted that verizon is aware of rooting, but really doesn't care when it comes to warranties as long as you're not stupid and you don't fry your CPU or something noticeable.

That being said, it's very easy to recover (the first thing you do when rooting is make a recovery partition).

But even IF I destroyed my phone and couldn't get it replaced, I have protection on the device (something you can't do with an iphone) where I can get a brand new replacement for a fraction of the cost. ($40)



What promised functionality have I lost that I was promised? I see none. THe OS said it was being upgraded this year (q1) that date has not passed yet. Flash is st...
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If I understand this correctly, I agree with you on everything except for your #1 response. In defense to Bluecoyote, I personally do not how to Root a device so I would speculate millions of other domestic potential buyers would not as well. So not being able to warranty the device is rather a tough sell. The industry is really trying hard to keep consumers locked at bay.

1. Rooting a device is basically using a glitch in the programming to give you admin level access to your device. It's as simple as replacing a couple lines of code.

2. Motorola didn't digitally sign the bootloader (think of this like a "safe mode" on windows) meaning that short of someone going into settings and trying a Super User (admin) command, there is no way they can detect that a device is rooted.

3. This is important because it makes it possible for you to remove those new lines of code, aka "un-root" your phone, and there will be NO evidence that your device was rooted.

Yes, if you fry your phone they will catch it, but say that for me, after 6 months I notice that my screen's backlight is going dim. All I need to do ...
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? about what you said about drivers. I could've sworn I read that drivers are the handset makers responsibity.

they are, typically. but this is a Google phone, the one they use to Develop the OS, so in order to update the OS they need to update the drivers, thus a phone constantly up to date.

Well I'm sure it won't be too much longer before Google goes beyond 2.1 and we find out for SURE.

I'm feeling really ancy/impatient right now. Are you sure you think I will be ok with a software keyboard?

I am getting faster and faster with mine. Faster than I was on my physical keyboard now (auto correct is amazing)

It's frustrating at first, but it gets a lot easier. I like having the physical keyboard to fall back on.. but if the Droid2 (or N2) doesn't have one.. I'll most likely be ok with that as well.

Oh right, good to know, thanks for the feedback. It really sucks having to press the same damn button 2/3/4 times on my numeric keypad.

Heads up! ! !

http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-droids-androi ... »

Yep I saw... the debate to unroot rages.

Do you think the ATT N1 will have multitouch right out of the box, browser, photo gallery, and Google Maps.

Yes. it will have the newest update to 2.1. if for some reason it doesn't (highly unlikely) the OTA update will pop in as soon as the phone is plugged in.

Ah, still undecided. Haven't orded one yet.

Are there a lot of fun games for Android?

yes, more coming all the time.. my favorite was a turn based game (like advanced wars on the GBA).. name escapes me.. lost it last time I flashed Rom

Turn based game, so theres games that utilize the accelerometer, huh? I just want to know how many different ways I can use a N1 when I get bored browsing the web, that's all.

Yes there is pretty much every kind of game, from need for speed clones to Bejeweled.

WoW! Your still up? It's like 3am back home! I'm almost home, I'm going to watch some vids of Android & the N1 on YouTube. I'm in a bad mood right now, I tend to spend $ when I'm in a bad mood, so who knows maybe I'll give and order mine in an hr or 2.

jay, got it, tossed the sim card in, it has built in att settings.

So far so good, its charging, will get back.

I came across the Droid on amazon for !!ONLY!! $25!!!

I'm trying to transfer my mothers ATT phone over to my sisters ATT acct, and then away I go. Droid for $25 is way, way, way too good of a deal to pass up!

Stupod ? For you, how the heck do I lock the screen?

press the power key it will lock the screen and put it in standby

in our biller if it's a non att branded phone or unlocked it shows as unknown manufacturer. therefore allowed 10.00 data. unless google programmed this phone differently to register the imei in our system...it's unlikely our customers will pay the 30.00

Good to know. I'm sure Jay will be happy.

YES! Happy. . .but I'm still going to *TRY* to wait for reviews to see if the problems the Tmo N1 had have been addressed.

Menno,
Thats a big maybe, they have yet to do it on my Rogers HTC Magic. But if it so happens, so be it. BTW I did order one today. Havn't seen you for a bit how goes it?

It goes. Still job hunting. Working as a part time consultant for a few stores. Holding an "android workshop" sometime this month.. should be fun.

Et tu?

Not bad, ordered the nexus 1 for att, hopefully get it before friday. We shall see? BTW you should come over to efnet #androidmobile, I think you would feel at home.

what's efnet?

Its an irc server. Download andchat on the market its free, add the efnet server irc.he.net then either add #androidmobile to the settings as far as channels, or /join #androidmobile from the terminal.

I did know there WAS some issues with irc and vzw, but I think it has been resolved.
BTW I know the freenode works, just join #android, if I see you there, I will get say hi.

You can also download any irc client to your computer, and log onto the efnet and join as the above.

BTW the above goes for all of you. All are welcomed.

what is the server address/port?

irc.he.net 6667

Ah heck, if these supposed upgrades that ATT is spending $18-$19bln on really do make a difference with the backhaul and so on then maybe having to pay more won't be so bad. Plus the N1 has a 1ghz processor and these various Android browsers (Dolphin) so hopefully webpages will load nice and swift like.

The 2.1 browser is really fast.

If speed is your main concern, opera mini is about as fast as they get, though you give up some functionality.

Oh yeah? What sort of functionality? What about the Dolphin browser? Do any Android browsers have the ability to make bookmark folders? Mobile Tech sites folder, News sites folder, porn sites folder? I prefer bookmarks to be in folders, that way I don't have to scroll all up and.

Opera Mini isn't multi touch atm, and it formats everything for mobile. Once Android gets the flash plugin that might not be in opera.

I am using the 2.1 browser right now.. to my knowledge there is no way to make shortcut folders, but it's not something I really do, so that could be why. Heck, I barely use bookmarks. I just start typing in something and google searches the most relevant sites and displays them

Dude! Fckn fellow Phone Scooper Versed has me
!!JELOUS!! He !!Already!! Ordered his ATT N1!!! He's got me thinking about jumping the gun damn it? Whn knows, maybe by Friday I will become an Androider! ! ! !

Got email from google like 30 mins ago, it was shipped.

What shipper do they use?

FedEx from what I understand.

The option to get yours embossed is available. Did you get yours embossed? Do you know where they emboss it at? I think maybe I'll have mine say "Jay's Nexus One (and the date I orded it.)"

I wonder if it'll have multitouch right out of the box.

No, I don't want them embossed, not good for resale vaiue.

Oh...I understand. Well I'm kind of a sentimental person, so I think I might.

"Jay's Nexus One March 19, 2010"

You don't even have PS bookmarked?

So do you have any experience with the Dolphin browser?

So what do you think Menno? Think I should take the Android plunge and JUST DO IT???

I just start typing phonescoop and it pops up.

Dolphin is ok, I liked pinchzoom on xscope more (but 2,1 browser is better than both) Dolphin handles tabbed browsing the best though.

As for taking the plunge, if you got the money, I say go for it. I think you'll really enjoy the phone.

Ooh! You said go for it! Well I have $740 in savings. I'll probably have my mother go to my sisters acct (my sister is w/ATT, so it would just be simple that way, to do a transfer of service). And I'll $125 approximetly to terminate 1 "other insignificant person". And get the $70 unlimited voice + $15 medianet + $20 unlimited txt & mms.

I think I WILL get it embossed. I think I'll have it say "Jay's Nexus One: March 18 2010"

Jay,
Nice but medianet is $10 with unlimited texting. See I already saved you money.

GSM works far different then CDMA. GSM uses imei, since they don't sell this phone, they don't have the imei on file. AT&T except for a few cases, can't even detect unbranded models of the same ones they sell.

but Google will so again F**k Google and Nexus. get a smarthphone and a netbook or basic laptop

Nope, wrong again! No subsidy from Google either. Therefore no etf fee.

Nope, wrong again! No subsidy from Google either. Therefore no etf fee. It's $529, no subsidy, no contract.

Let me break it down for you:


ETF fees, and "stopped using this" fees ONLY apply if you sign a contract to get the device.

This is like going to the store and buying a TV. You are not signing ANYTHING to get the phone for that price. You are simply picking it up.

Welcome to the wonderful world of unlocked, carrier free phones. There be dragons, but they mainly just want to say hello.

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Their being "mobilized". That's funny it's kind of like a "War of the Tech Titans!!!"