Verizon Wireless Talks Up LTE Speeds

I believe 802.16m will be the ticket. It can burst at 1gbps and have average speeds of around 100mbps.

LTE is a few years out as far as being a completed product.

I've never read that 802.16m is capable of 1gbps?!!? I read that 802.16m will be deployed at the end of 2011 and is capable of 100mbps, but that isn't end-user speed though.

The 1gbps is a "burst" speed For a very very brief time it can hit that number. continuous speeds are dependant upon network activity, range from tower, etc. There have been numerous tests of 802.16m which will allow 100mbps continuously. That was on a dormant network with everything perfectly optimized. A busy network will produce slower speeds.
At this time when you see speeds for LTE and HSPA+ those are the same, on a controlled system where the device tested was the only device using the network. THis is how LTE was sold to the carriers

I don't know why it is that these companies pay so, so much attn to these unrealistic "theoretical" speeds. Consumers, the ones using the network on a daily basis only care about end-user speeds. We'll be lucky if end-users are getting 100mbps by the yr 2020!!!!

Jayshmay said:
Precisely, which is why I don't think 4G is anything to be all that excited about until the do some special antenna configurations to achieve much higher speeds. But I suppose the 700mhz will be good & snappy with the great bldg penetration.

Clear is going to be testing 4X2 MIMO antennas later this year with WiMax Release 2. That release should boost speeds to 24 mbps using 20 Mhz channels.

Can you provide me with a link that says this? I'd like to read about this.

Jay... this is the FIRST gen of the technology. Those Tmobile speeds will most likely NEVER be seen by ANYONE in the real world

And for a country that is used to seeing 3mb/s suddenly getting 5-10 (and with verizon, it's more than likely 1.5-2 for 3g) that is an impressive jump.

Yes, over in europe the have 40+ mb/s 3g speeds, but everything posted is theoretical, and to get those speeds, you basically need to be the ONLY person using that tower. (with HSPA). Over in europe they always advertise theoretical maximum speeds, while here in the USA it has to be real world speeds or face mitigation.

That's not the case with 4g, at least not to the same extend. Those bursts of up to 50 most likely will be seen from people (specificall...
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When I had Clear the highest speed I ever got was 15mbps, and being a security guard there have been numerous times I've been up browsing way late, but yet even in the early am 15mbps was the highest I've ever gotten. Good enough for Hulu though, but it's ok to watch Hulu on Clear cause they don't nit pick peoples usage like Vzn is going to.

Wimax is a different tech from LTE, with a wholly different upgrade tech.

And we have no idea what the Verizon packages will be like. Remember, they used to offer unlimited 3g on aircards for a long while as well.

We already know their not going to, remember, the CEO of Vzn said LTE will have metered billing. So we already know it won't be unlimited, which means limited Hulu & limited porn vids.

Also, the CEO of Clear said that if LTE end up being better that they will just switch, they just went with Wimax cause it was available sooner. But I've heard from quite a few people including here on PS that LTE & Wimax aren't that different of technologies. You can read the forum posts in the wireless data forum.

But what is the limit? if verizon said they would put a 2TB limit on their bandwidth... would you care?

"unlimited pricing" is bad for businesses because people always abuse it and it is HORRIBLE for consumers because the average consumer uses nowhere near the amount of bandwidth a company budgets for.. aka, they are OVERPAYING to subsidize the usage of a select few.

The ONLY people "unlimited" pricing benefits are the people who plug their data stick into a wifi router and use it to host a torrent site (or just download torrents 24/7 on)

I'd probably be satisfied with say 50gb's a month. Hopefully that won't cost frinkin $80/mo though!

Comcast has a hidden limit of 250 GB/mo on their Cable Internet. If you go over that enough times they will kick you in the hide and cut off your Internet service.

Please don't bash something you have not experienced yourself. I use a sprint 4g aircard and It works great in baltimore and In DC where I work even though DC hasn't offically launched yet I have been connecting to 4G down here for 2 months. I cannot tell a difference in browsing speed between my Comcast at home which speedtests at 24mbs and my 4G which averages 4-8mbs. For mobile broadband these speeds are incredible and will only improve with time.

I was not mentioning Sprint WIMAX, I was talking about TMOBILE 3G (HSPA+). WImax is 4g, thought different from LTE.. are you sure you weren't trying to reply to Jay? (though he did have a clear aircard)