Nexus One Gets Multitouch Via Software Update
Why not the Droid, G1, MyTouch, Hero, or Eris?
So all you people who blew your money on the phones listed above, how's it feel to have your fancy phone treated as a second-class citizen on a second-class platform?
This is great- now new applications can take advantage of things like chording and multiple keyboard presses. Maybe someday your iPhone-killing Droid will too! 🤣
Does ANYONE have any confidence in this platform? If so what are you on?
This is great- now new applications can take advantage of things like chording and multiple keyboard presses. Maybe someday your iPhone-killing Droid will too! 🤣
Does ANYONE have any confidence in this platform? If so what are you on?
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I have a multi touch browser on my droid already. xscope browser and Dolphin browser both support it. 2.0 has multi touch enabled, it just didn't get enabled on the default software until today.
You'll see an update for it for other phones I am thinking. Remember, the Nexus One was sold directly through Google (no carrier approval process) While the other phones have to have updates go through carriers (like att held back tethering and MMS from the iphone after it was released)
I love it how you consider Multitouch to be this end all be all feature (I don't use it on my browsers that much) but consider multitasking to not be such a big deal.. Any android user would say you have your priorities backwards.
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You'll see an update for it for other phones I am thinking. Remember, the Nexus One was sold directly through Google (no carrier approval process) While the other phones have to have updates go through carriers (like att held back tethering and MMS from the iphone after it was released)
I love it how you consider Multitouch to be this end all be all feature (I don't use it on my browsers that much) but consider multitasking to not be such a big deal.. Any android user would say you have your priorities backwards.
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I'll give you MMS, but MMS was something directly carrier related- Multitouch?
Multitouch is the most single important feature of the iPhone OS- typing without it would be far more difficult. Zooming in and out of the maps application would be near impossible as well, and most games make extensive use of it.
Contrast that to Multitasking, which most developers have worked around. Not all, but beyond Pandora I'm hard pressed to think of any application where the lack of multitasking has been more of a hindrance than a benefit.
Multitouch is the most single important feature of the iPhone OS- typing without it would be far more difficult. Zooming in and out of the maps application would be near impossible as well, and most games make extensive use of it.
Contrast that to Multitasking, which most developers have worked around. Not all, but beyond Pandora I'm hard pressed to think of any application where the lack of multitasking has been more of a hindrance than a benefit.
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multitasking is as important to the average android user as pinch zoom is to you (at the very basic, the ability to get real time updates on your phone via widgets)
The new OS still has to get APPROVED. 2.1 is being held up not because of multitouch, but because they are stress testing it to make sure it works with the device properly. not matter what the update gives, it STILL has to be approved by the carrier.
The new OS still has to get APPROVED. 2.1 is being held up not because of multitouch, but because they are stress testing it to make sure it works with the device properly. not matter what the update gives, it STILL has to be approved by the carrier.
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Why is there no decent task manager? Or is multitasking more important because Android doesn't cache application sessions consistently (enjoy that removable memory card and your 256 MB limit) and is the one checklist feature Android users know the iPhone doesn't have even though saying Android multitasks is like saying it has copy+paste functionality..
Since you're using Android, i'm going to illustrate it like this: Android's multitasking works as well as its copy+paste function: crappily.
Since you're using Android, i'm going to illustrate it like this: Android's multitasking works as well as its copy+paste function: crappily.
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256MB limit.. most apps are 1-2 MB, the LARGEST apps are 10MB (there could be larger, but I have yet to find any)... so that is a minimum of 250 apps on my device before I have memory issues.
Android apps are developed so that only a small portion needs to be on the device, the rest can be on the memory card.
There are almost a dozen task managers. ATK works very well, and it's free.
When I am surfing the web I can have pandora stream seamlessly, I get all my texts (pandora will allow them through), I get weather updates from my Beatiful widget that will automatically change when I change locations. if I want to check the stocks, I hit the home key and I can see them on my phone without having to open another window. Want to ...
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Android apps are developed so that only a small portion needs to be on the device, the rest can be on the memory card.
There are almost a dozen task managers. ATK works very well, and it's free.
When I am surfing the web I can have pandora stream seamlessly, I get all my texts (pandora will allow them through), I get weather updates from my Beatiful widget that will automatically change when I change locations. if I want to check the stocks, I hit the home key and I can see them on my phone without having to open another window. Want to ...
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So the guy who argues that nobody should ever need to run two apps at once is making a critical point of another phone only having room for 256 MB of Java apps?
I think we are dealing with an Apple fanboy who never actually does anything with his phone but receive SMS notices about upcoming Apple releases.
I think we are dealing with an Apple fanboy who never actually does anything with his phone but receive SMS notices about upcoming Apple releases.
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bluecoyote said:
...beyond Pandora I'm hard pressed to think of any application where the lack of multitasking has been more of a hindrance than a benefit.
The lack of multitasking has pretty much killed every location-aware app that's ever been considered. Prohibiting things like Google Latitude and Loopt from running in the background has done immeasurable damage to the capacity of mobile apps to tailor search and social networking functions to real-time usability.
iPhone is responsible for that.
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I'm hard pressed to think of any application where the lack of multitasking has been more of a hindrance than a benefit.
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Are you kidding me? I've got a Palm Pre, and its battery life is about 1/5th of that of my iPhone 3G's on a good day. Running 50 apps at once my guess is it's around the vicinity of 45 minutes. I've left applications open on my Pre and pull the phone out of my pocket to find it dead an hour later. And that's with a phone with an excellent task management system... Android's is horrible by comparison.
And other location-aware apps do run, including AT&T's family finder and Apple's Find My iPhone.
Funny you also bring the Blackberry up, as it lacks the ability to have more than one browser window open at once.
And other location-aware apps do run, including AT&T's family finder and Apple's Find My iPhone.
Funny you also bring the Blackberry up, as it lacks the ability to have more than one browser window open at once.
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that battery draining is an issue with the pre, not with multi-tasking. you can have no apps on the pre and it will still drain faster than a droid.
I have 7+ apps running on my phone at all times, and even with frequent texting/google talking/browsing I still get 18+ hours out of it (screen at auto brightness as well). I don't use wifi for browsing either, so when I surf it does tax the batteries.
Multitasking doesn't kill battery life that much if the device is designed for it.
I have 7+ apps running on my phone at all times, and even with frequent texting/google talking/browsing I still get 18+ hours out of it (screen at auto brightness as well). I don't use wifi for browsing either, so when I surf it does tax the batteries.
Multitasking doesn't kill battery life that much if the device is designed for it.
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We get it already. You love your iPhone. Whee! Its not a bad device. Hell, its even a great device. But you make it sound like its the second coming of Christ. And all that because you have multi-touch? As I said before, I've enabled it and I hardly ever use it. Its far, far, far from the holy grail of mobile OS features. Enjoy watching Flash videos on your iPhone!! Oh, wait... I'm sorry.
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No I'll enjoy watching H.264 and HTML5 videos on my iPhone, which handle seamlessly. Enjoy Flash!
The iPhone isn't the be all and end all and the platform has its issues. For many things I prefer WebOS and that's the platform I develop for myself.
But that doesn't change the fact that Android is garbage. This isn't about saying the iPhone is better- it's about saying Android is a giant fustercluck the likes of which are rivaled only by Windows Mobile. Saying it can do stuff like multitask or copy/paste is different than implementing usable renditions of these functions.
It'd be one thing if Google updated this platform consistently, but it doesn't. There are 4 Android versions in *active* circulation at the moment- that's...
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The iPhone isn't the be all and end all and the platform has its issues. For many things I prefer WebOS and that's the platform I develop for myself.
But that doesn't change the fact that Android is garbage. This isn't about saying the iPhone is better- it's about saying Android is a giant fustercluck the likes of which are rivaled only by Windows Mobile. Saying it can do stuff like multitask or copy/paste is different than implementing usable renditions of these functions.
It'd be one thing if Google updated this platform consistently, but it doesn't. There are 4 Android versions in *active* circulation at the moment- that's...
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humm...android is growing so fast.... The OS is update all the time , Vendors have to make the hard choice on when to push out updates...
I actually like HTML5 on my android....not alot of content out their in HTML5..but it looks great on the android... I do like my HTC flash player it runs fantastic as well , and since I can get alot more content for it I am damn glad i have it.
Makes me wonder when Blue used android...
Multi-tasking rocks on android. In fact its idiot proof.
I also have never had a problem copying and pasting...I do it every day...
On my iphone...diffrent story....
Pandora? Chat on an instant messanger? edit a word doc? Check my FF stats in real time??
choose one....your not doing them all at the...
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I actually like HTML5 on my android....not alot of content out their in HTML5..but it looks great on the android... I do like my HTC flash player it runs fantastic as well , and since I can get alot more content for it I am damn glad i have it.
Makes me wonder when Blue used android...
Multi-tasking rocks on android. In fact its idiot proof.
I also have never had a problem copying and pasting...I do it every day...
On my iphone...diffrent story....
Pandora? Chat on an instant messanger? edit a word doc? Check my FF stats in real time??
choose one....your not doing them all at the...
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"Multitouch is the most single important feature of the iPhone OS- [...]
Contrast that to Multitasking, which most developers have worked around."
"Most" means nothing. If an application can work around a non-multitasking phone, then multitasking wasn't necessary. But you can't work around multitasking if you have an application which has to operate all the time, not just catch up the next time you activate it.
The reason why multi-touch is the most important feature of the iPhone is because it lacks more important features. That's the truth by definition, and it means nothing to say what you said.
Contrast that to Multitasking, which most developers have worked around."
"Most" means nothing. If an application can work around a non-multitasking phone, then multitasking wasn't necessary. But you can't work around multitasking if you have an application which has to operate all the time, not just catch up the next time you activate it.
The reason why multi-touch is the most important feature of the iPhone is because it lacks more important features. That's the truth by definition, and it means nothing to say what you said.
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No, the reason multi-touch is important on the iPhone is that it allows for richer application development (you gonna argue this?) , adds viability to the virtual keyboard (you gonna argue this?), allows for more efficient use of screen real estate (perfect example is on Google Maps for iPhone which is able to recognize not only pinch/zoom but also single and two finger taps) , and most of the groundbreaking applications on the iPhone.
Yeah, apps like brushes don't exist on Android for a reason.
Let's contrast that to multitasking. Beyond background streaming of Pandora (a notable omission, won't argue that), how has the lack of multitasking hindered the iPhone platform, especially when competing platforms suffer from either ...
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Yeah, apps like brushes don't exist on Android for a reason.
Let's contrast that to multitasking. Beyond background streaming of Pandora (a notable omission, won't argue that), how has the lack of multitasking hindered the iPhone platform, especially when competing platforms suffer from either ...
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You either do or don't need stuff to run in the background while you do other stuff. It sounds like "you" don't. Other people do, and it isn't something that a "work around" really fixes.
"richer application development?" Are you reading off of some press release from Apple? "Richer" applications aren't any help if they can't run when you need them to run.
And even if some other OS has a crummy app manager, that does not make it any better to not have multitasking at all. Pointing an ignorant finger at your imagined enemies does not actually improve your product.
"richer application development?" Are you reading off of some press release from Apple? "Richer" applications aren't any help if they can't run when you need them to run.
And even if some other OS has a crummy app manager, that does not make it any better to not have multitasking at all. Pointing an ignorant finger at your imagined enemies does not actually improve your product.
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You still don't get the point that multitouch off of android was INTENTIONAL out of respect to Apple. Now that respect is gone (or there are new people heading up android) and mult-touch is now being implemented into the base OS.
No, there isn't anything like Brushes for android yet, There is DoodleDroid (and I'm sure more to follow). My Droid will be getting a flash player. Say what you want about the format, but try telling me people don't use Hulu.
And to my knowledge, there is nothing like Locale for the iphone, which is a very powerful app.
The iphone was out before the app store we know today, long enough to gain a pretty sizable user base (wasn't it the 3g? coulda been a january conference, I forget). That user base=...
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No, there isn't anything like Brushes for android yet, There is DoodleDroid (and I'm sure more to follow). My Droid will be getting a flash player. Say what you want about the format, but try telling me people don't use Hulu.
And to my knowledge, there is nothing like Locale for the iphone, which is a very powerful app.
The iphone was out before the app store we know today, long enough to gain a pretty sizable user base (wasn't it the 3g? coulda been a january conference, I forget). That user base=...
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bluecoyote said:
So all you people who blew your money on the phones listed above, how's it feel to have your fancy phone treated as a second-class citizen on a second-class platform?
This is great- now new applications can take advantage of things like chording and multiple keyboard presses. Maybe someday your iPhone-killing Droid will too! 🤣
Does ANYONE have any confidence in this platform? If so what are you on?
Until it's somthing I consider important, I could care less which phone gets it first. My Hero works just fine for what I do with it. I've used multitouch in the browser about 3 times since I got it on launch day.
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Ok, troll. Its hardly as if the other devices are being treated like second-class citizens. They still do every single thing they did before. Pinch to zoom is frankly more cumbersome to implement than double-tapping the screen to zoom. One-handed is easier than two. Now I have my myTouch rooted, and I have multitouch. WHICH I NEVER USE!!! So go find a bridge, and hide under it.
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You posted twice! Now pack up and go argue with someone with standards down there.
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