Verizon Wireless: Unlimited Data Not 'Sustainable'
I agree completely.
Why should I have to pay $30-50 for data when I only use 100-200 MB per month but some bozo tethers their laptop and torrents to death.
Pay for use is the best way.
Pay for use is the best way.
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One option that I see that may placate all involved is to have a 3 or 4 tier pricing system. One would get a text alert when you have reached 85-90% of each tier limit within your monthly cycle. In this way you will be alerted that this month's data charge will increase soon if you cont to use your data in this fashion.
Let me use one example:
Tier 1: 0-1 MB of data is $15 per month
Tier 2: 1-3 MB of data is $25 per month
Tier 3: 3-6 MB of data is $35 per month
Tier 4: 6+ MB of data is $50 per month.
If I have used 0.9 MB so far this month, I will be sent a text message alerting me that I have used 90% of Tier 1 data for this month and I will be charged an extra $10 once I exceed 1 MB this billing cycle.
I have a choice to eit...
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Let me use one example:
Tier 1: 0-1 MB of data is $15 per month
Tier 2: 1-3 MB of data is $25 per month
Tier 3: 3-6 MB of data is $35 per month
Tier 4: 6+ MB of data is $50 per month.
If I have used 0.9 MB so far this month, I will be sent a text message alerting me that I have used 90% of Tier 1 data for this month and I will be charged an extra $10 once I exceed 1 MB this billing cycle.
I have a choice to eit...
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WTF, he can't be serious with this MB sh!t...
LMAO!
Well it looks like T-mob and sprint will be gathering alot of new customers.
LMAO!
Well it looks like T-mob and sprint will be gathering alot of new customers.
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It all depends on what else they announce. If they are making a change like this, typically they counter it with something else to make it sound better.
Higher per usaged txting/cheaper unlimited
Higher ETF, Cheaper phones
Required data on smartphones/rogue/cheaper phones
Tiered/required data.... ?
Higher per usaged txting/cheaper unlimited
Higher ETF, Cheaper phones
Required data on smartphones/rogue/cheaper phones
Tiered/required data.... ?
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Disrespect said:
WTF, he can't be serious with this MB sh!t...
LMAO!
Well it looks like T-mob and sprint will be gathering alot of new customers.
But they'll never get as big as Verizon, not when unlimited data is unsustainable. AT&T knows this; they've admitted as much with the iPhone, just VZW has the nerve to address the problem.
TMobile and Sprint will be able to cash in on some of the dissatisfied VZW customers, but if the system is unsustainable.
Think of it this way: I could make more money if, instead of working for a cell phone retail store I opened my own. 100% of the commissions would be mine and I could undercut all my competitors on price. But as soon as I start attracting more cu...
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akidwai said:...
One option that I see that may placate all involved is to have a 3 or 4 tier pricing system. One would get a text alert when you have reached 85-90% of each tier limit within your monthly cycle. In this way you will be alerted that this month's data charge will increase soon if you cont to use your data in this fashion.
Let me use one example:
Tier 1: 0-1 MB of data is $15 per month
Tier 2: 1-3 MB of data is $25 per month
Tier 3: 3-6 MB of data is $35 per month
Tier 4: 6+ MB of data is $50 per month.
If I have used 0.9 MB so far this month, I will be sent a text message alerting me that I have used 90% of Tier 1 data for this month and I will be charged an extra $10 once I exceed 1 MB this billin
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Exactly. They are like common street dealers. The first hit is free. Once you're hooked then you will pay.
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The problem is that you will not end up paying any less then what you pay now. Say you had a smartphone and paid the 30 dollar data charge, the way the carriers will implement usage based pricing is that instead of paying $30 for 5GB or unlimited smartphone data, it will become something like $30 for 500MB or 1GB (data amounts indicated are an estimate). Anything over the stated amounts will incur overages or you will end up paying more for a higher data plan. In short, you pay the same for less while the bandwidth hogs will pay A LOT more for all the data they use. The carriers will make out like bandits and its the people who use a little like yourself that will end up being screwed.
You are correct when you say usage based is pro...
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You are correct when you say usage based is pro...
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Exactly. This is the same thing they did with text messaging. Initially, they were giving it away almost then once it caught on they started raising the price. Now they want to force data plans on almost all the phones and then complain when people actually use the data. I am keeping my Vx6100, 7000, 8100 and 8300 on standby.
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Just a quick thought on the comparison to text messaging.
Text used to be $0.10 per message compared to the $0.20 it is now. Even before that I believe it was $0.10 to send and $0.02 to receive.
Text packages started at $2.99 for 100 messages.
Nowadays you have users sending thousands of text per month... for $20 for unlimited.
There are still options for the low end users $5.00 for 250 messages.
Ultimately, data pricing changed... but I think most consumers would agree that the change was a good one.
Ultimately people are getting up in arms about a foreshadowing for future data usage when no one has even seen the end result.
Text used to be $0.10 per message compared to the $0.20 it is now. Even before that I believe it was $0.10 to send and $0.02 to receive.
Text packages started at $2.99 for 100 messages.
Nowadays you have users sending thousands of text per month... for $20 for unlimited.
There are still options for the low end users $5.00 for 250 messages.
Ultimately, data pricing changed... but I think most consumers would agree that the change was a good one.
Ultimately people are getting up in arms about a foreshadowing for future data usage when no one has even seen the end result.
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SMS and MMS cost the carriers NOTHING. So they aren't doing me any favors by driving their ARPU up with the fake price hike on the Pay Per Use rate.
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SMS/MMS isn't the issue and you know that. SMS was originally developed to ease network usuage, which again you should know.
With these new super-smartphones, there needs to be a software based solution that will allow users that don't want to be connected all the bloody time to turn off data leaching services. The problem isn't just the user but the 3rd party developers & services, like youtube, tube8 😈, & Facebook/MySpace/etc that seek out data sources.
With these new super-smartphones, there needs to be a software based solution that will allow users that don't want to be connected all the bloody time to turn off data leaching services. The problem isn't just the user but the 3rd party developers & services, like youtube, tube8 😈, & Facebook/MySpace/etc that seek out data sources.
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I didn't bring up SMS. Someone else did. I merely pointed out that consumers are being raped as there is no cost to the carriers to provide it. Therefore charging anything for pay per use or data bundle is just gravy. For the carriers to increase pay per use twice just because they can is bogus.
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I must have missed where cell phone carriers are 501(c) Non profit companies. There are many maintenance costs, stockholders to keep happy, and competitors to outmaneuver. I think 20 bucks/month for unlimited text messaging is fair - that's why I pay it. Does it cost the carrier less than that? Outwardly, yes, it's nearly free for the carriers because they already have the equipment - but how are those towers - which can cause several million, including leasing costs - built in the first place? Not from philanthropy...
I ultimately think that pay per use is going to be a much better option for all involved. We can make as many speculations as we'd like, but ultimately we'll have to see the plans first. 15/month or 29.99/mo for a lesser pl...
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I ultimately think that pay per use is going to be a much better option for all involved. We can make as many speculations as we'd like, but ultimately we'll have to see the plans first. 15/month or 29.99/mo for a lesser pl...
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Whether $20 for unlimited is fair or not (and it isn't) is not the point. Pay per use for SMS went from ten to fifteen to twenty with no justification. A ploy to drive carrier ARPU by forcing data bundles on the masses. By the way...thank YOU Google for free text to email.
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The justification was making money. As he said, they're not non-profits. They are in business to make money. So they do have to charge more than things cost. I'm not sure why so many people here think that just because somethng cost the carriers x dollars to produce, they should sell it for x as well.
If you don't like the price, go find a provider whose plans fit your budget.
If you don't like the price, go find a provider whose plans fit your budget.
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