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oh how naive does google think we are...

pennyless10

Aug 2, 2007, 4:10 PM
all these great features coming from a company that wants to SELL a persons search request to the NSA... for "our protection" 🙄
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brandonabe

Aug 2, 2007, 4:31 PM
ummm... sounds great to me, I have nothin to hide. Google rocks!
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scbysnx

Aug 2, 2007, 9:24 PM
while I have very little to hidee, there are some things I wouldn't want my mother to see, I wouldn't watn the government to have total access to my information for any reason. I'd rather die at the hands of satin because the government didn't have access to his e-mail then allow the government to read mine.
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davewho

Aug 3, 2007, 7:54 AM
What's satin got to do with it?
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bigshaun

Aug 3, 2007, 9:05 AM
Besides it feeling nice on my skin, nothing at all.
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brandonabe

Aug 6, 2007, 1:51 PM
I agree though, death by satin would suck, but at least youd look stylish when they found you
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bigshaun

Aug 3, 2007, 9:10 AM
Do you have something to hide? Are you searching Google for the average weather temps in Iran? What do you have to hide, and why does it bother you so much. I think this should be a refreshing change in the celluer industry. An industry ofttimes filled with dull designs, and repetitive garbage. Hopefully they give us something different
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SystemShock

Aug 5, 2007, 1:48 PM
bigshaun said:
Do you have something to hide?

That's a ridiculous justification for allowing the government to spy on American citizens without just cause, and always has been.

Its not on me to have to justify wanting privacy. Its on the GOVERNMENT to justify why they must take away my privacy. It doesn't matter if I'm having an intimate convo with my girlfriend or am talkin' rain gutters with a rabid telemarketer, I didn't invite some fat sweaty NSA tool to listen in. If he thinks there's cause, and a court or oversight body agrees, great, if not, he can f*** off.

Unless of course you think George Orwell's 1984 is a just peachy keen world to live in. Viva la Big Brother! đŸ¤Ŗ
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BigHev

Aug 3, 2007, 11:50 AM
tipical lib... 🙄
if you got nothing to hide, why worry about the NSA?
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SystemShock

Aug 5, 2007, 1:50 PM
BigHev said:
tipical lib... 🙄
if you got nothing to hide, why worry about the NSA?

Typical neoconservative, giving away all your freedoms just 'cuz incompetent lil' Bush and Cheney tell you so. And you believe them. đŸ¤Ŗ
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BigHev

Aug 6, 2007, 8:21 AM
it must suck to be as stupid as you đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ

how can you even see with your head so far up your cornhole? đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ

you just keep being dumb, us conservatives will keep the country safe đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ
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deliriumfrenzy

Aug 6, 2007, 1:27 PM
Typical conservative response. Can't back your argument up, can't attack your opponent's argument, so you attack your opponent instead.

I'll spell it out for you.

It's a sign that someone doesn't know what they're talking about.
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BigHev

Aug 6, 2007, 4:56 PM
What's there to back up? I'm right, and you're a dumb lib.
You are just too dumb to realize you are stupid.
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It's just the truth, not an attack. đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ
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deliriumfrenzy

Aug 6, 2007, 5:09 PM
Thanks for proving my point.

Or do you have a valid argument behind your "truth"?
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pennyless10

Aug 6, 2007, 6:35 PM
you know that the bridge in mineapolis that collapsed that was Bush's fault too. 🙄
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deliriumfrenzy

Aug 6, 2007, 7:46 PM
Yep, and it's the moronic liberal's fault that the terrorists are attacking us.

(It's because they hate our freedom)
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pennyless10

Aug 6, 2007, 8:10 PM
lets think about it; the terrorist know they cant destroy the united states but if they make it hell to live here (by passing laws to destroy our freedom) they win... and ya i know the terrorists dont pass the laws but by scaring america into giving its freedoms up for "protection" its just as bad...
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BigHev

Aug 7, 2007, 12:42 PM
Bush caused that eathquake that trapped those miners too đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ

Bush also caused my hemroids to flare up đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ
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SystemShock

Aug 7, 2007, 10:34 PM
BigHev said:
Bush caused that eathquake that trapped those miners too đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ

Bush also caused my hemroids to flare up đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ

No, you have 'hemroids' only because you're a huge a** hole. đŸ¤Ŗ

Hillary in '08! 😁

(don't even like her, but its fun sayin' it 'cuz neocons' heads explode just thinking about it, lol).
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pennyless10

Aug 8, 2007, 2:26 PM
my favorite 2 Hillary quotes "we should pull the troops from Iraq and save American lives..." 🙄

AND

"I would not out rule the idea of using Nuclear Weapons against terrorism"


BOTH QUOTED ON CNN NEWS LAST NIGHT!!! during 2 separate speeches.
😛

OH and by the way Its Bush's fault that people died in the holocaust FYI
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SystemShock

Aug 8, 2007, 10:37 PM
pennyless10 said:

OH and by the way Its Bush's fault that people died in the holocaust FYI

No, Bush didn't have anything to do with that. He just really really sucks as President, that's all. đŸ˜ŗ
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Cinner

Aug 3, 2007, 1:59 PM
This is such a f**king stupid argument. If the NSA doesn't get a hold of all the information they need and we have another terrorist attack take place in the US, who will be the first to point the finger at the government and claiming that not enough was done? I'm guessing the same people who sit here now and say "I'd rather die at the hands of Satan (and please learn to spell for goodness sake!) than have the NSA read my email." Well good luck to you buddy. That ranks among the top 10 stupidest things I've ever heard a person say.

We're a country full of f**king liberal ass-headed morons who all seem to have the answer to everything.
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BigHev

Aug 3, 2007, 3:27 PM
dittos! 😁
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treo700

Aug 3, 2007, 5:11 PM
My thing is I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the whole privacy thing but I just feel like people add stress and worry to their lives with stuff like this that they can't really do anything about. What I mean by that is, if the government wanted to check out what you're doing what could you possibly do about it? You can't stop them and unless EVREYONE rises up against it you will never be able to stop it because its one person against the whole government. The problem is people gripe about these things to themselves and within their circles and yet never step forward to actually do anything about it and don't support those that actually DO stand up to say something, so instaed of getting upset in a forum on a website why don't you take it...
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SystemShock

Aug 5, 2007, 2:01 PM
Cinner said:
This is such a f**king stupid argument. If the NSA doesn't get a hold of all the information they need and we have another terrorist attack take place in the US, who will be the first to point the finger at the government and claiming that not enough was done? I'm guessing the same people who sit here now and say "I'd rather die at the hands of Satan (and please learn to spell for goodness sake!) than have the NSA read my email." Well good luck to you buddy. That ranks among the top 10 stupidest things I've ever heard a person say.

No, the stupidest thing I've ever heard a person say is that we must destroy America to in order save it. In other words, give up all the freedoms that make Ame...
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Cinner

Aug 7, 2007, 11:45 AM
In other words, give up all the freedoms that make America, well, America, because we're so damn afraid of some goofy-looking bearded douche holed up in a cave somewhere on the Pakistan border.


And what freedoms exactly are you losing? What is it, besides developing large quantities of explosives, that you can't do? Perhaps we shouldn't have background checks preceding the purchase of firearms because, well, what does it matter who we are or what we've done in the past?

We need to give the government what it *actually* needs to keep us safe, not just go, "Yessir bossir, whatever you want sir."


And please enlighten me as to how you have made the ultimate determination as to what the
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muchdrama

Aug 3, 2007, 5:19 PM
pennyless10 said:
all these great features coming from a company that wants to SELL a persons search request to the NSA... for "our protection" 🙄


Yeah, we're forever vigilant about this stuff.

Yes, that was sarcasm.

If Americans gave a crap about this stuff, our soldiers would be home from Iraq, our cars would be running on Play-Doh, and pollution would be eradicated.
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treo700

Aug 3, 2007, 5:28 PM
Yeah I'm with you! You should go and read my last comment, I think you'll like it.
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pennyless10

Aug 6, 2007, 1:34 PM
theres a difference between freedom of speech and running my car ON DIESEL GAS 😛 i could care less about the planet, i hunt (shoot animals) go off roading (tear my 30 acres of land with ATV's) and fish (pull animals out of their safety of water to have the sufficate so i can eat them for dinner) 😛
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pennyless10

Aug 6, 2007, 1:39 PM
theres a difference between freedom of speech and running my car ON DIESEL GAS i could care less about the planet, i hunt (shoot animals) go off roading (tear up my 30 acres of land with ATVs) and fish (pull animals out of their safety of water to have the suffocate so i can eat them for dinner) because thats what Americans do!! actually thats what people have been doing since the dawn of time
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SystemShock

Aug 5, 2007, 2:05 PM
pennyless10 said:
all these great features coming from a company that wants to SELL a persons search request to the NSA... for "our protection" 🙄

To be fair, itsn not just Google... pretty much every single telco company sold the average American citizen out. 😡

There was ATT's 'secret room' in its San Francisco hq, where NSA guys were allowed to tap directly into the data cables and spy on American citizen's communications directly, for example. And I'm sure the weren't alone... pretty much anybody who was anybody in landlines, wireless, internet, etc. cooperated with the NSA too. Who would dare not to?
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ethanb123

Aug 6, 2007, 12:40 PM
Qwest dared not to.
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SystemShock

Aug 7, 2007, 10:37 PM
If they did, they were one of a very few.
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brandonabe

Aug 6, 2007, 2:23 PM
All this because google will sell your search querries.

The NSA isnt going to e-mail your parents all your "questionable" search requests. They arent going to send lists of all the chatrooms you frequent to your friends. They will be looking for people who make an enormous number of searches for "how to build a bomb" along with large important structures. And even then they wont bust through the door of some kid doing a book on terrorists, they'll look him up to see if he is actually a potential threat.

Absolute freedom is something we shouldnt have; we couldnt handle it. You're entitled to your opinions on what is an acceptable amount, but complete freedom would allow large corporations to ruin the reputations of their employees for ...
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pennyless10

Aug 6, 2007, 6:34 PM
sooo your telling me that not wanting the government to know that i want to look up how to make MY OWN FIREWORKS is a hate crime toward another race 😕

before you tell me its dangerous to those around me, i own 30 acres of land in Missouri, i have a 1 square acre parking lot my dad used to use for his camper, boat etc. so there is no field to catch on fire and its MY LAND i don't see a problem with looking up entertainment with out big daddy knowing my every move.
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brandonabe

Aug 6, 2007, 7:05 PM
my point was, they're not going to go after you for trying to make fireworks.

And the hate crime was, obviously, an example. 🙄
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pennyless10

Aug 6, 2007, 8:11 PM
then they should buy it from me... if they are my searches then I want to get paid for them... thats fair right?
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brandonabe

Aug 6, 2007, 8:16 PM
umm... the idea is to find people who are involved in highly illegal activities... They dont care what the average person does so why would they buy their searches. Do you not understand this concept?
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pennyless10

Aug 6, 2007, 8:27 PM
sooo... do they see what i look at or not?
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brandonabe

Aug 6, 2007, 9:06 PM
Typical of so many people who dont understand the benefits of rules and cant see the negatives of not having them. "I dont care about the consequences, just keep the government out of my life."

...Until something bad happens then its "where was the government? Where did all my taxs go? Why didnt they prevent this from happening?"

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Cinner

Aug 7, 2007, 11:09 AM
Exactly. Well said.

And for those of you wanting to "make your own fireworks".......WTF??? Country firecrackers??? This is your excuse for why you don't want the government to know what you're doing?

It's so asinine that we have come to the point where we somehow think the government is going to rush in, bend us over and violate us to their heart's content. They may have their issues from time to time, but....reality check...they don't care about you or your backyard chemistry experiment (at least until you buy enough supplies to make a couple tons of it), they don't care about your porno subscriptions or the dirty websites you visit, they aren't running to tell your mom about your drug habit, etc, etc.

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pennyless10

Aug 8, 2007, 2:20 PM
in a completely capitalistic country i don't see why i don't get paid for the searches i produce... yet someone else does, actually if you think about it WE pay taxes to have spent to buy the searches WE produce... why not pass a law to have it looked at for free and the money could be spent elsewhere.

OR

not pay google at all. and stay in war, the economy is better now than it has ever been.
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brandonabe

Aug 9, 2007, 4:35 PM
because its not your search engine... In a capitalist country you really should be PAYING to use the search engine; Youre more describing Socialism. Our taxes dont keep google running dude, their advertisements do. đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ
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pennyless10

Aug 10, 2007, 3:20 PM
so by the government buying search results from google does not help them at all?? 😕
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brandonabe

Aug 11, 2007, 1:53 PM
Of COURSE it does! CAPITALISM! Do you know what capitalism is?

Google has a RIGHT to sell info that it produces to whomever they want! They are a BUSINESS! You want to FORCE google to give away its search results for free, or give any money they make selling them back to its users!?!? That would be unconstitutional! If you dont like what google does with its info, heres an idea, DONT USE THEM!

You are the kind of person who doesnt want to see any evidence of your government until you need them. Then you want them to sweep in, fix your problem, and dissapear again. Oh, and you dont want to have to pay for it, it should be yours for free. Oh, and they should be able to fix your problems with no negative side effects to you or anyone el...
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pennyless10

Aug 13, 2007, 2:16 PM
the only things i want my government to do

1)KEEP ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OUT OF THE USA
2)stop welfare it costs to much money and everyone on it abuses it
3)maintain the roads and highways
4)allow police to do thier job
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SystemShock

Aug 9, 2007, 1:05 PM
Cinner said:
It's so asinine that we have come to the point where we somehow think the government is going to rush in, bend us over and violate us to their heart's content. They may have their issues from time to time, but....reality check...they don't care about you or your backyard chemistry experiment (at least until you buy enough supplies to make a couple tons of it), they don't care about your porno subscriptions or the dirty websites you visit, they aren't running to tell your mom about your drug habit, etc, etc.

I'm sorry, but you are an utter, naive fool. ☚ī¸

Give up all your freedoms today, give all power to the government without question, and sooner or later it will come back to bite you in...
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brandonabe

Aug 9, 2007, 4:31 PM
He WOULD be an utter naive fool to give ALL power to the government and let them do ANYTHING they want... But hes not so stop claiming that he is. No one has said anything close to what you claim.

Blindly fallowing your governemt is moronic, but no one is suggesting that. We're suggesting that it might actually be OK for the government to see what searches we make on the internet! Your posts would make sense if he said the government should be allowed to arrest whomever they want whenever they want for any reason or something just as rediculous.

I dont like to resort to calling people idiots in my posts, but when you twist a posts meaning so perversely, I think it warrants it. 🙄
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SystemShock

Aug 9, 2007, 8:52 PM
Things have gone further than you realize. I'm sorry you don't get that. Maybe someday you will. ☚ī¸

Don't worry though... nobody 'cept a very few believe Bush and Cheney anymore. So their power to screw things up anymore is limited. And a Democrat will probably win in '08, and they've got Congress already.

It's sad that conservatives have strayed so far from their original ideals that we all have to hope and pray for someone, anyone else to win. But that's how bad Bush-Cheney Inc. have screwed it up.
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brandonabe

Aug 10, 2007, 1:05 PM
Really? You must have some knowledge about the inner working of the government that I dont. Did you know that the government also planned and carried out the 9/11 attack? đŸ˜ŗ

"Things have gone further than you realize" is not a valid argument unless its on a crappy sci-fi movie and the guy gets shot before he has a chance to explain 🙄

"You have no idea what we're up agianst..."

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SystemShock

Aug 11, 2007, 2:16 PM
Yeah... you're so twisted in knots you're not even making any sense anymore. No one here has said that the U.S. government planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks... only you did. Why, I don't know. 🙄

So... how bad do you think the Republicans will lose in '08? Will it be worse than how they got their asses kicked in '06, or about the same?
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brandonabe

Aug 11, 2007, 3:28 PM
I was obviously being facetious, and I'm sure youre aware of it, you just cant thing of contradiction to my points. You do realise you havent even made a point, youre just mud slinging and saying I'm stupid. Good thing people can see through that. 🙄

I really would LOVE to hear about these facts about the government that you are aware of that the rest of us arent, so please, enlighten us. đŸ¤Ŗ
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SystemShock

Aug 11, 2007, 5:19 PM
No Brandon, you weren't being facetious, you were simply trying to paint anyone who doesn't agree with the Bush-Cheney line of bullsheeite as anti-government loonies. A very strange position that... the 'big government conservative', aka the sell-outs. 😲

Far as your 'points' go, you haven't even raised one aside from the "OMG, the sky is FALLING, goofy-looking bearded guy in a cave in Pakistan will KILL US ALL!, better burn the Consistution to be kept SAFE!" recycled garbage we've heard for the past six years. 🙄

Newflash, Brandi... the people aren't buying it anymore. đŸ¤Ŗ

I look forward to '08, when the neocons, their failed policies, and politics of fear are spiked out of office, and tossed on the garbage heap of hist...
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brandonabe

Aug 11, 2007, 6:54 PM
The difference is, I'm only arguing about Google selling searches to the government, and you keep trying to turn it into a presidential debate. There is nothing unconstitutional about what they're doing, we havent gone too far, as Ive showed in my posts, unlike you. You havent showed anything, and youre right, people can see that. Not that it really matters anymore because I think you and I are the only ones reading this now. 😲

You sir, are an alarmist, and unfonrtunately its fairly obvious that you get your information from a few sources and try not to listen to anything that you disagree with. Youd rather remain in the dark than run the risk of changing your mind about something. Such thinking wont really grow you as a person and I h...
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SystemShock

Aug 11, 2007, 7:05 PM
Please to stop cupping Bush and Cheney's nutts. You have about as much credibility as Alberto Gonzales. "We're not doing anything wrong". Yeahhhh, suuuure you're not. 😛

So... who you gonna vote for in '08, Hillary or Obama? 😁
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brandonabe

Aug 11, 2007, 7:20 PM
I think your post rests my case...
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SystemShock

Aug 11, 2007, 7:30 PM
... that you're gonna vote for Hillary? Yes, I think it does. 😉
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