Verizon CEO Slams FCC, Wants Congress In Charge
Where's your promised network expansion you cheap ass?
The one you took gov't subsidies for then decided you could rely on loopholes and exception clauses to not build?
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Where's the apologies from people who claimed that net neutrality would not inhibit network improvements?
Proponents of this denied and denied claims that it would slow network enhancements and raise prices. Now that the rules are out and you see that Verizon is backing down on network expansions and that it will cause prices to go up those people are nowhere to be found, or, even worse, still in denial.
This is Obamacare all over again. Although, with net neutrality, hopefully if I like my internet service provider I will be able to keep my internet service provider. 🤣
Proponents of this denied and denied claims that it would slow network enhancements and raise prices. Now that the rules are out and you see that Verizon is backing down on network expansions and that it will cause prices to go up those people are nowhere to be found, or, even worse, still in denial.
This is Obamacare all over again. Although, with net neutrality, hopefully if I like my internet service provider I will be able to keep my internet service provider. 🤣
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I'm guessing you completely misunderstood what bluecoyote was talking about, either that or you intentionally decided to rant about something else.
Are you aware that the telecoms defrauded the public of billions of dollars in the 90's on the promise of building out FIBER to every home in America and an open network that any ISP could compete over? Instead they built a closed copper network, pocketed billions of public dollars, and and reaped HUGE profits. But I guess you didn't know that?
>>Proponents of this denied and denied claims that it would slow network enhancements and raise prices.
And we still have no reason to believe that it will. Besides, we're more that 20 years behind schedule under the old system. Network improvemen...
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Are you aware that the telecoms defrauded the public of billions of dollars in the 90's on the promise of building out FIBER to every home in America and an open network that any ISP could compete over? Instead they built a closed copper network, pocketed billions of public dollars, and and reaped HUGE profits. But I guess you didn't know that?
>>Proponents of this denied and denied claims that it would slow network enhancements and raise prices.
And we still have no reason to believe that it will. Besides, we're more that 20 years behind schedule under the old system. Network improvemen...
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My comparisons to Obamacare are based on the government/media selling the American people on something with claims that turn out to be completely false.
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>>My comparisons to Obamacare are based on the government/media selling the American people on something with claims that turn out to be completely false.
Ok, and we get a plenty of that from the government. So, I understand your skepticism of the government, especially where the current administration is involved. But it is clear to me and many others in my field that the internet is headed in the wrong direction. And empty rhetoric isn't going to convince a bunch of mathematicians, engineers, and programmers otherwise. I don't think this is ideal, but I cannot conceive that it could possibly be worse. If congress wants to draft some new and improved legislation, I'd be in favor of that as an alternative.
Ok, and we get a plenty of that from the government. So, I understand your skepticism of the government, especially where the current administration is involved. But it is clear to me and many others in my field that the internet is headed in the wrong direction. And empty rhetoric isn't going to convince a bunch of mathematicians, engineers, and programmers otherwise. I don't think this is ideal, but I cannot conceive that it could possibly be worse. If congress wants to draft some new and improved legislation, I'd be in favor of that as an alternative.
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---"Where's the apologies from people who claimed that net neutrality would not inhibit network improvements?"---
Personally, I can't think of a reason for apologies. The network providers should always have expansion as their agendas regardless and I have no reason to believe that they would cease this agenda. It's a bluff. Think of all the subscribers that would leave in droves if the providers decided not to advance. And what about those shareholders you spoke of earlier? You don't think they would have something to say about their investments not being used to expand?
John B.
Personally, I can't think of a reason for apologies. The network providers should always have expansion as their agendas regardless and I have no reason to believe that they would cease this agenda. It's a bluff. Think of all the subscribers that would leave in droves if the providers decided not to advance. And what about those shareholders you spoke of earlier? You don't think they would have something to say about their investments not being used to expand?
John B.
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Of course they will continue to advance no matter what. However more regulation means it will slow everything down and make it more expensive.
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>> However more regulation means it will slow everything down and make it more expensive.
In the 90's they were given billions in incentives to build a fiber network to every home in the USA that was supposed to be open for any ISP to provide services over. Instead, they built a slow copper network that was closed and posted massive profits. The American public was defrauded of BILLIONS of dollars for a product that was never delivered. How's that for progress??? I say regulate the hell out of them until their public debt is paid.
In the 90's they were given billions in incentives to build a fiber network to every home in the USA that was supposed to be open for any ISP to provide services over. Instead, they built a slow copper network that was closed and posted massive profits. The American public was defrauded of BILLIONS of dollars for a product that was never delivered. How's that for progress??? I say regulate the hell out of them until their public debt is paid.
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Here's a thought, how about the government NOT invest in private business? Just another example of the government trying to do good but lacking the oversight to be sure it's followed through. This to me is a WTF to the government for throwing away billions on something not necessary.
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>>Here's a thought, how about the government NOT invest in private business?
But wait. They already did. Should we pretend they didn't? Do these businesses that defrauded the public get a "get out of jail free" card just because it was the wrong thing to do to begin with? Or should they repay their public debt? Or better yet, should they build the product that the American public paid them for and they never delivered?
>>This to me is a WTF to the government for throwing away billions on something not necessary.
Wait... seriously? You want America to be behind the rest of the world on its technology infrastructure? You don't think it's a good thing we were trying to bring fiber to every home in America in the 90's.... because it ...
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But wait. They already did. Should we pretend they didn't? Do these businesses that defrauded the public get a "get out of jail free" card just because it was the wrong thing to do to begin with? Or should they repay their public debt? Or better yet, should they build the product that the American public paid them for and they never delivered?
>>This to me is a WTF to the government for throwing away billions on something not necessary.
Wait... seriously? You want America to be behind the rest of the world on its technology infrastructure? You don't think it's a good thing we were trying to bring fiber to every home in America in the 90's.... because it ...
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If they agreed to do something they should have done it, sure. However they never should have been contracted by the government to do it in the first place. The government investing billions of dollars into private companies is exactly the crony capitalism that needs to go away. How do you suppose they picked who they were giving the money to? Most likely campaign workers/contributors.
I don't see how your concluding that if the government doesn't get involved then we will be behind the rest of the world on technology infrastructure when America rapidly shot past the entire world in technological advancements after it was founded on the basis of government staying out of our lives. In fact, it's been in the last 20 years that our adv...
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I don't see how your concluding that if the government doesn't get involved then we will be behind the rest of the world on technology infrastructure when America rapidly shot past the entire world in technological advancements after it was founded on the basis of government staying out of our lives. In fact, it's been in the last 20 years that our adv...
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>>If they agreed to do something they should have done it, sure.
Well, they did agree to something, and they did not do it. So, now is enough to just say, "well they should have done it?" Or should we actually go as far as holding them accountable for breach of contract?
>> However they never should have been contracted by the government to do it in the first place.
I'm a little back and forth on that one. I tend to think in the case of national infrastructure projects we need a little government involvement.
>>The government investing billions of dollars into private companies is exactly the crony capitalism that needs to go away.
I very much agree with that statement.
>> How do you suppose they picked who they were givi...
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Well, they did agree to something, and they did not do it. So, now is enough to just say, "well they should have done it?" Or should we actually go as far as holding them accountable for breach of contract?
>> However they never should have been contracted by the government to do it in the first place.
I'm a little back and forth on that one. I tend to think in the case of national infrastructure projects we need a little government involvement.
>>The government investing billions of dollars into private companies is exactly the crony capitalism that needs to go away.
I very much agree with that statement.
>> How do you suppose they picked who they were givi...
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