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gloopey1

Oct 22, 2014, 7:52 AM
I understand that law enforcement need the ability to monitor phone calls of suspicious people, but who decides who is "suspicious"? I'm fearful that we are moving closer and closer to a state-controlled regime that watches everything we do and uses that info against us at will.
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dr.mordin

Oct 22, 2014, 8:05 AM
I'm totally with you. But there's going to come a day when the tech companies refuse to play ball. If google, apple, samsung, LG, Motorola, Microsoft, etc, suddenly decide to stop playing ball with the Feds, it's all over.

The feds can only do what they are allowed to do. If the OS companies all collectively decide to lock them out, what are they going to do?
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PhoneMan23

Oct 22, 2014, 9:50 AM
No, you're wrong. The Fed will only do so much before collectively people tell to stop. Look, it's time to remove Federal Government from Big Business and education. We need to loose the Federal grip on the states, strengthen the local and state laws and tax the upper 10% harder.

Give money to the poor, they will spend it.

Give money to the rich, they will horde it.

It's not simple to see, it's time to strip powers from the Federal Government and return the powers that be to the states.
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meager73

Oct 22, 2014, 5:09 PM
Yeah giving power back to the states. The same yahoos that get busted in drug raids, contract and business corruption, budget scandals, etc etc. No they need to be put in check. State gov't has proven they can't manage themselves either.
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Zpike

Oct 22, 2014, 9:43 PM
YOU???? Don't make me laugh.
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DarkStar

Oct 27, 2014, 5:20 PM
Tax the rich more? What do rich people do when taxes go up? They hide their money better. Look at Apple. They are an "American" except most of their money goes to other countries. All their manufacturing goes to China. A lot of their parts are bought from Taiwan and South Korea. And what about the money they make from licensing deals? They started a new company in Ireland because the taxes on that are so much less than in the US. So all of that tax money we are losing out on. And in California the money it cost to start a business is very expensive so most companies get an LLC in Delware but operate in California. If California lowered that tax it would make more money than with a higher tax.

I was it was easy but its not.
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Brad K

Oct 28, 2014, 10:21 AM
I can understand how some people at first look are confused at how lowering tax rates will actually result in more tax revenue being collected but it's been proven to work that way. But for some people, raising taxes on the rich is not about more tax revenue, it's about punishing them. Obama was directly asked why he supported raising the capital gains tax when in the past it has resulted in less tax revenue and he said it wasn't about revenue, it was about "fairness".

The US already has the highest corporate income tax in the industrialized world and they still want to raise it. Most seem to understand the concept that given the choice between 2 gas stations across the street from each other people will choose the one with lower rates...
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Cellenator

Oct 22, 2014, 11:25 AM
gloopey1 said:
I'm fearful that we are moving closer and closer to a state-controlled regime that watches everything we do and uses that info against us at will.



YOU SHOULD BE
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Versed

Oct 22, 2014, 6:29 PM
If the government used information as legitmate tools to fight terrorism, I might see their point. But the truth be it Bush or Obama, such information is not being used for legitmate uses but for unlawful survalance.

Money and equipment that was supposinlgly used to fight terroism is being used for other purposes, like scanning license plates and issuing tickets for not having one's car insepcted, or forgetting to re-register. Giving armoured personel carriers to sheriff deparments in small counties for whatever reason they may want them for?

While I'm not a fan of Issa, I do applaud him in this.
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Brad K

Oct 22, 2014, 7:09 PM
Whats even more sickening is they are also using governmental powers to gain an edge on opponents during elections. For example the IRS selectively auditing campaign contributors to the presidents opponents. Just imagine how the ability to easily access anyone's cell phones would be abused.

Not to mention that requiring this from cell providers would increase their operating costs, which, by the natural laws of running a successful business, would be passed on to the customers. So we would be the ones paying for the government to have easy access to our cell phones.
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thevorlon

Oct 26, 2014, 11:32 AM
Double whammy...Paying the government to do this to us (taxes) and paying for the extra cost incurred by the phone companies to have it done...
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