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jwbass1985

Sep 21, 2005, 10:57 AM
Would the WiFi on this phone be for internet services only, or would you be able to talk like VoIP?...
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Internetadam4657

Sep 21, 2005, 11:45 AM
actually, its the other way around. the wifi is for voip and will include uma technology to allow seamless calls between wifi and the gsm service. they may allow the wifi to be used for internet, but if i know cingular, it will be locked to voip only because they will want people to pay for their media net service.
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jstavropoulos

Sep 21, 2005, 11:58 AM
One great things about having WiFi on these devices is when the GSM coverage is poor (most peoples homes on the West Coast have poor coverage) in poeples homes, then they can have less of a barrier to adopting a GMS phone if it's going to work with their home WiFi network. The same goes for coverage in office buildings. This will reduce the barriers to adoption for new subscribers.
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muchdrama

Sep 21, 2005, 12:07 PM
jstavropoulos said:
One great things about having WiFi on these devices is when the GSM coverage is poor (most peoples homes on the West Coast have poor coverage) in poeples homes, then they can have less of a barrier to adopting a GMS phone if it's going to work with their home WiFi network. The same goes for coverage in office buildings. This will reduce the barriers to adoption for new subscribers.


Hell, this'll fix ANY problem with interior coverage in offices or homes.
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terryjohnson16

Sep 21, 2005, 3:52 PM
What happens when there isn't a WiFi network around? Then you are screwed right?
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muchdrama

Sep 21, 2005, 4:22 PM
terryjohnson16 said:
What happens when there isn't a WiFi network around? Then you are screwed right?


Unless your carrier puts up towers in your area or improves signal strength somehow, yes...I'd say you were screwed.
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terryjohnson16

Sep 21, 2005, 4:35 PM
I have T-Mobile and I have excellent coverage, but I asked that since the phone can get WiFi coverage. It will be interesting to see how UMA evolves and catches on.
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CNGinsider

Sep 24, 2005, 9:46 PM
Cingular Currently Owns more than 44,000 cellsites. VZW is a little over 25,000 owned a operated Cellsites. Currently the Cingular Network is still split between the former ATT and Cingular. If you are a former ATT customer. You will only see an ATT tower unless you are in a Area the has no Original Cingular Coverage. Cingular has begun a City by City Merger of the network. What this means is if Cingular had 100 towers in a City and ATT had 100 towers in a City. Once the Network is Mergered. There will be a coverage of 200 towers. If any 2 towers are close to each other. One tower will be taken down a moved to a location where both Cingular and Former ATT had bad coverage. Cingular will have almost 5000 additional towers added by the end of ...
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terryjohnson16

Sep 24, 2005, 9:50 PM
Okay.
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Rich Brome

Sep 22, 2005, 12:54 AM
You are no more screwed than you would be now, with a current phone. This will only provide better coverage than you have now. But UMA isn't a magic technology that can create coverage out of thin air.

The only technology that can provide coverage absolutely anywhere on the planet is Iridium's satellite-based phone service. But that's prohibitively expensive for most people.

With a UMA phone, you have coverage in all the same places as your current mobile service, PLUS special areas you set up for yourself using UMA-enabled Wi-Fi or Bluetooth access points in your home and/or office.
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tropicalhaven

Sep 22, 2005, 6:29 AM
Rich Brome said:
The only technology that can provide coverage absolutely anywhere on the planet is Iridium's satellite-based phone service. But that's prohibitively expensive for most people.


Actually, satellite-based coverage is not all inclusive, either. Reception will vary depending upon terrain and weather.
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muchdrama

Sep 21, 2005, 12:06 PM
jwbass1985 said:
Would the WiFi on this phone be for internet services only, or would you be able to talk like VoIP?...



From everything I've read, this would include voice as well as data.
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Rich Brome

Sep 21, 2005, 2:10 PM
Correct. UMA is designed to support both voice and data seamlessly across both network types.
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Homestar Runner

Sep 21, 2005, 2:53 PM
Rich Brome said:
Correct. UMA is designed to support both voice and data seamlessly across both network types.


Simultaneously also?
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Rich Brome

Sep 21, 2005, 3:35 PM
No. There would be no benefit to that.

What UMA does is tunnel the entire digital mobile connection (GSM/GPRS or CDMA) over an IP connection.

So when a UMA phone enters a UMA-enabled Wi-Fi zone, it will automatically switch to the Wi-Fi connection, just like any other kind of handoff or roaming. The Wi-Fi connection is always preferred, because it is faster and cheaper, and takes load off the mobile network.
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terryjohnson16

Sep 21, 2005, 3:50 PM
So with that, you could be online on the phone using data, and talk on it at the same time? Or is it still useless like GPRS that cannot work while using a voice channel?
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Rich Brome

Sep 21, 2005, 4:03 PM
Because it is tunneling the entire GSM/GPRS protocol, it would work exactly the same, including limitations such as that one.
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terryjohnson16

Sep 21, 2005, 4:13 PM
Ok. Thanks Rich.
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