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Bold Face Liar...

MadFatMan

Jun 12, 2012, 1:55 PM
If AT&T were to aquire the lower A and B blocks of the 700MHz spectrum they would not put it to use within 60 days.

They would make some lame operations excuse as to why it could not be utilized at this time and keep it inactive under their control simply to keep it out of the hands of any potential competition.

Is this an IQ test? Are we really supposed to not only ignore AT&T's track record, their anti consumer actions and the plethora of spectrum they currently have tied up as inactive.
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Jarahawk

Jun 12, 2012, 5:14 PM
...they would. He said the could. Of course, you and I both know that nothing of the sort would occur.
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MadFatMan

Jun 12, 2012, 6:09 PM
Yeah, you're right. What was I thinking?

Who needs healthy competition anyway. Heck, if were lucky they will forgive us for questioning their intentions and let us off easy by paying nearly full price for our devices, locking ourselves into a 48 month contract for over $200 a month for a single line with 3 gb of data ... As that is where they would like to be with revenue per unit, commitments and network demand...
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Tofuchong

Jun 12, 2012, 6:20 PM
Hey ! Don't be freakin ridiculous !

Just be happy you aren't living in Canada, where all carriers still offer 3 year contracts.
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MarryTheNight

Jun 12, 2012, 6:30 PM
Tofuchong said:
Hey ! Don't be freakin ridiculous !

Just be happy you aren't living in Canada, where all carriers still offer 3 year contracts.


and it's cold 😛 I love Montreal though. Do they really do 3 year contracts? What is it? Bell, Telus, Fido?
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Tofuchong

Jun 14, 2012, 1:19 PM
Yeah, they all offer 3 year contracts. The UK used to do this, however it was recently outlawed there, with maximum contract length being set at 2 years. Main carriers are Bell, Rogers, and Telus. Fido is great for Metro Areas, and Virgin Mobile is alot better in canada than it is in the US. In the US, Virgin has that CDMA network, in Canada, they have a CDMA, GSM, and HSPA+ network, and you can change your phone directly from their account website, which means you can use ANY unlocked CDMA or GSM phone on their network, which is freakin awesome.
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MadFatMan

Jun 12, 2012, 6:44 PM
Our contracts are shorter because our dollar is stronger...
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Tofuchong

Jun 14, 2012, 1:16 PM
HA HA HA. Good one buddy. The Canadian dollar is, and has been for years stronger then the US dollar, even during the time when 3 year contracts were offered. Nice try.
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Jayshmay

Jun 12, 2012, 7:11 PM
I would wait to get home for internet access if that were the case!!!
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NonBiasedRep

Jun 13, 2012, 8:23 AM
I was agreeing untill you stated your figures. 200$ is double of what it really costs....Dont exaggerate stuff, the facts are bad by them selves...
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Versed

Jun 12, 2012, 6:56 PM
Better then something like TrailerParkLoser telecomm who will cry to the government they need taxpayer subsidy's to build out LTE, and the rest of us will pay, and we shall hardly see it.
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MadFatMan

Jun 12, 2012, 7:02 PM
So I take it you're anti smaller carrier?

There is just somthing in me that twitches when I see a big company play keep away with spectrum that belongs to the American people to begin with.

But my initial point was if I may digress "liar liar pants on fire" !
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Versed

Jun 12, 2012, 9:25 PM
I have had a mobile phone since like 1990. I remember the small carriers with their good hearts hitting you up with the $3.00 daily access fees and the high roaming fees. This is now gone. Yes, I want AT&T,VZW, Sprint and TMO to blanket the country, even at the expense of smaller carriers.
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Jayshmay

Jun 12, 2012, 7:08 PM
Your post us exactly why I left ATT!!!
Tmo followed the GSM upgrade path by upgrading to
JAPAN 21/42. ATTRACTIVE barely upgraded to HSPA 21,
and by the time they did it was welllll into 2010,...too late for me.

Verizon was first with LTE, and will be first with LTE-A.
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MadFatMan

Jun 12, 2012, 7:17 PM
Unfortunately Mr. Jayshmay we are in a dwindling minority of consumers that have our B S filters on for AT&T's shenanigans
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Jayshmay

Jun 12, 2012, 7:22 PM
Yeah well I left ATT a little over 2yrs ago.
Now I'm enjoying unlimited LTE d as ta on Vzn.
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MadFatMan

Jun 12, 2012, 7:36 PM
And I am enjoying my Sprint 4G WiMax service for the time being until the LTE Roll out ... Unlimited Data and a reasonable monthly bill. Cannot complain.

I just keep thinking that both VZW and AT&T's billing practices are Anti Consumer.. as I recall you have VZW's granfathered unlimited plans.... Hold onto that my friend!
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eskeebel

Jun 12, 2012, 11:35 PM
What's the hold up with the unlimited plans? I had the unlimited with my carrier, but dropped it for a better plan. This is the problem with America, we want to use everything in excess. Why can't people just learn to use their phones in consideration of the spectrum crunch all carriers are facing.

I have a 4GB plan with my carrier. I tether my phone with my iPad. I use FB, have 5 email addresses on both, watch YouTube, browse the web and download apps over the network. I NEVER worry about my plan...I use about 3.5 GB a month. Stop complaining and get over it. Unlimited plans have gone the way of the buffalo!
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MadFatMan

Jun 13, 2012, 12:02 AM
Devices are increasing in their capabilities. Carriers advertise and tout these functions. Developers are building out applications that require higher data traffic.

At 3.5 GB I would consider you a moderate user. 8 to 10 GB would be a heavy user and anyone consistently hitting double digit gigs may be in breech of the acceptable terms of use by an illegal tether or trying to run their household off their smartphone or excessive downloading of torrents etc.

Unlimited data should stay in place for actual handset usage but if there are abusers unfortunately VZW and AT&T have chosen to engage anti consumer billing practices as the new cash cow of data overage has proven to be overwhelmingly profitable.
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eskeebel

Jun 12, 2012, 11:28 PM
This post was just dumb. You obviously don't read about spectrum much. AT&T actually IS using this particular block of spectrum, and DOES need more spectrum to build out its LTE network - in this block. You can't just build whatever you want on any spectrum you might have available. It doesn't work that way, it has to line up with a number of different things.
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MadFatMan

Jun 12, 2012, 11:45 PM
This is a forum, where mobile enthusiast read the latest news, check up on new devices and state opinions and cheer their carrier of choice and jeer the competition. It is presented on a as is take it or leave it basis. With some general written rules of use and courtesy.

To assume I am deficient in my knowledge of spectrum and how it works would leave a person quite mistaken.

My post simply stated to paraphrase, I do not believe AT&T will put the lower A and B block of the 700 MHz spectrum to use in the time that they have indicated as this has been reported. Based on their spectrum hoarding and their anti competitive business practices.

Now, that is an opinion. I doubt that I am wrong furthermore, it is my opinion that any spect...
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eskeebel

Jun 12, 2012, 11:56 PM
I don't have a problem with you stating your opinion, but you state them like they are facts.

The truth is, you can't say what AT&T would do with the spectrum, but if you look at the facts, you will see that AT&T actually does need that spectrum, and I believe that they would use it for the purpose they say.

Furthermore, what you call "anti-competitive", others call business. They are not a not-for-profit organization, why should they donate the companies that have less? They are not here to make sure mom and pop make it in their business ventures.
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MadFatMan

Jun 13, 2012, 12:19 AM
THEY NEED THE SPECTRUM? that, my friend, is the hearty laugh I have needed.

Their need for spectrum was shot out of the water when the Tmo merger fell apart.

That was a bit of a stinger on the corporate check book but that is what they get for being so obnoxiously arrogant.
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eskeebel

Jun 13, 2012, 12:27 AM
Tell me, if there wasn't a NEED for spectrum, why would the government be in the works of freeing up their own spectrum for commercial use?

In the T-Mo merger, AT&T did say, they needed the spectrum, the FCC and DOJ blocked the acquisition NOT because they didn't think AT&T NEEDED the spectrum, but because they didn't feel that eliminating T-Mo would be healthy.

Sprint tried to say they could do what they needed with the spectrum they had...but if Sprint knew good business model, they wouldn't be so far in the crap shoot.

Yes, they NEED spectrum. They spectrum they have isn't what they need. They need a different block.

What about this makes me a corporate mouthpiece? Because I support AT&T? Yes I do support AT&T. Simply because ...
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MadFatMan

Jun 13, 2012, 12:39 AM
But sadly mis directed.

So, do you like work for an indirect dealer or a corporate store or are you in a call center either an internal one or Teleperfomance USA or Canada or those beautiful people at Convergys.

Their business practices are anti consumer, anti competitive, and down right predatory for consumers who fail to do any amount of research. When confronted their corporate mouth pieces lie just as easily as they tell the truth. The end will justify the means. God Bless America.
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eskeebel

Jun 13, 2012, 12:57 AM
Not that my employment status is any of your business, but I actually don't work for AT&T Mobility, either directly or indirectly. If you must know, I work for a cable tv, Internet and home phone provider in NM.

It's just like any other person on this forum to say assume that I do though.

If the only people that support AT&T, are their employees, then why is AT&T so large? You mean to tell me that you are more educated than the over 100 million subscribers AT&T has? Those are big words.

I'm not AT&T's mouth piece. I'm not here to lie to anyone. I just think you are misled. AT&T has done a lot for telecommunications. Their contributions and innovations have helped a lot more people than have been hurt. You pretend to know what is bes...
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NonBiasedRep

Jun 13, 2012, 8:34 AM
+1...Hes the guy that says AT&T cost 200$ a month for one line...He lost all credibility at that point.....
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dlmjr

Jun 13, 2012, 10:50 AM
haters gotta hate

I have never understood the people who get on here just to 'hate' on some particular carrier.

May be grudge holders. Some carrier 'screwed' them somehow, someway and they carry it to their grave.
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Tofuchong

Jun 13, 2012, 5:07 PM
Your President, who you Elected, George Bush, said in a public speech "There ought to be limits to freedom" and this is DEFINATELY one of the cases that he was refering to.

If you are totally into God Bless the USA, then you must also be totally into being a real and true american, which is an american that stands by their president ALWAYS.

If there were absoloutly no limits on freedom, I'm sure you can appreciate how totally even more messed up this situation would be.
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Jarahawk

Jun 14, 2012, 7:30 AM
"What about this makes me a corporate mouthpiece? Because I support AT&T?"

Bingo. You certainly aren't neutral.

"Yes I do support AT&T"

Confirmation from the horse's mouth so to speak.
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AtTheMet

Jun 14, 2012, 11:05 AM
MadFatMan said:
If AT&T were to aquire the lower A and B blocks of the 700MHz spectrum they would not put it to use within 60 days.

They would make some lame operations excuse as to why it could not be utilized at this time and keep it inactive under their control simply to keep it out of the hands of any potential competition.

Is this an IQ test? Are we really supposed to not only ignore AT&T's track record, their anti consumer actions and the plethora of spectrum they currently have tied up as inactive.


I find it interesting that no one is talking about the fact that Verizon has been sitting on this spectrum all of this time and now wants to sell assuming they get the batch of spectrum from the...
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Jarahawk

Jun 15, 2012, 7:32 PM
Nor will it be. That is what I have been saying all along.
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