Samsung Exporting EV-DO Handset For Verizon

EV-DO is not faster than broadband, Verizon "telco" just advertised 3 mbps on their dsl lines.

Broadband refers to speeds faster than 64 kb/s technically EVDO is a broadband technology its just faster than 1xRTT which is also broadband. EDGE and W-CDMA are broadband too. Also broadband can refer to the amount of spectrum needed to support a particular technology.

They won't cripple EVDO. It is the real deal. It is what digital phones were supposed to be.

I think he might mean crippling the bluetooth not the EVDO.

Yeah Verizon has a bad habbit of making a good handset go bad. Switch to Cingular if you want good Bluetoth phones!! 🤣

Who wants bluetooth? Most of my customers don't care. They are interested in high speed data, however. Bluetooth is fine but there are other things out there that many are waiting for.
Nobody will want to use a bluetooth data link when their computer and wireless internet link are forced to wait for bluetooth.
In a few months AT&T will become an mvno on the Sprint network and will implement 802.11g. It will do VOIP, data and all of that.

Does this phone even have bluetooth? Samsung doesn't make much with BT.

SPCSVZWJeff said:
Sony Ericsson's CDMA phones have been a real disappointment just like Motorola's and Nokia's. They seem to think they know more about CDMA than its inventor and so the phones are very quirky.
If they would just give in and use the Qualcomm chipset they would have great phones.

Doesn't the 3589i use Qualcomm's chipset?

No it uses a TI chipset, close to the Qualcomm, but still not the same.

SPCSVZWJeff said:
No it uses a TI chipset, close to the Qualcomm, but still not the same.

Well, except for the 4 and 6 buttons failing on me...it's performed admirably.

Nonsense. Qualcomm didn't invent CDMA. They have certain patents, which in our system is unfortunately more a legal and political issue than a technical issue.

Various implementations of the technology may or may not have various "quirks", but that has nothing to do with whether they use the oh-so-holy Qualcomm implementation.

For myself, I have a Nokia 3589i and it performs superbly.

Sony ericsson sticks with the GSM network because there are many more users of GSM service over 1.2 billion I believe. This way they are sure that a phone will sell well enough. And whoever made the post about Qualcomm was absolutely right any cell phone maker who cannot adequately produce CDMA chips should work with the actual maker of CDMA technology.

I suppose but I could really care less. I have my Sony Ericsson, I have my GSM, I have my Cingular and I have not a single complaint with any of them. But thanks for the input! 🙂

I agree 100 percent! Can't wait for the s710a!!!

Somewhere I heard that its supposed to come out the week of the 27th, so im keep my fingers crossed. Waiting for this thing to be released is so frustrating. Everyone says this day, everyone says that day, just release the damn thing!!!! lol 😛

I heard the week of the 27th and I've heard the week of the 7th. Im so frusterated!!!

When talking to Cingular they say release date is Janurary, when talking to Sony Ericsson they say December, but what would SE know about Cingular's intention of release date. So I think Sony Ericsson released the phone or shipped the phone to Cingular in December. As for Cingular actually releasing it to the public, who knows.

Go to a freakin s710a forum to discuss the release dates for this phones....who cares, just relax and wait for it to come out!

Settle down pooch, a few posts off topic wont kill anyone. Dont spaz out over it. 🤣

The earliest Sprint phone was a Sony and they were terrible. There have been a few other Ericsson phones and they have been terrible. The T606 has not received rave reviews.
There is a history of enmity between Qualcomm and Ericsson. Sony joining the fray only means more wierdness.
In CDMA you either use the Qualcomm chipset or you shouldn't even bother making the phone because it will perform poorly.
It's kind of like a Cyrix processor in your computer. It is fine for most things but then it does something absolutely screwy. This is the case with Motorola phones and also the case for Nokia phones.
Sony Ericsson phones that I have seen are very cheaply made.

SPCSVZWJeff said:
The earliest Sprint phone was a Sony and they were terrible. There have been a few other Ericsson phones and they have been terrible. The T606 has not received rave reviews.
There is a history of enmity between Qualcomm and Ericsson. Sony joining the fray only means more wierdness.
In CDMA you either use the Qualcomm chipset or you shouldn't even bother making the phone because it will perform poorly.
It's kind of like a Cyrix processor in your computer. It is fine for most things but then it does something absolutely screwy. This is the case with Motorola phones and also the case for Nokia phones.
Sony Ericsson phones that I have seen are very cheaply made.

So I can attribute my 3589'...
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They have not been around as long as the others so they have not built their network out as well as the incumbent cellular companies have.
As a Sprint customer in some of the most remote parts of the Northwest I can say that I have signal as often as I want signal. I have never in two years paid a roaming charge.
Their coverage is not as big as others but it is very intelligently designed and with Free and Clear or Fair and Flexible America they have solved the coverage issue.

SPCSVZWJeff said:
They have not been around as long as the others so they have not built their network out as well as the incumbent cellular companies have.
As a Sprint customer in some of the most remote parts of the Northwest I can say that I have signal as often as I want signal. I have never in two years paid a roaming charge.
Their coverage is not as big as others but it is very intelligently designed and with Free and Clear or Fair and Flexible America they have solved the coverage issue.

thanks..what do you mean when you say..they have solved the problem with...clear or Fair and flexible in relating to their coverage..

Simply that you can use up to half of your minutes on another carriers network without paying roaming. This is if you add the America option to your plan.

really..i did not know that..so you can roam on verizons network? use their network as your regular minutes? thats awesome..so you got the best with sprint cause they have cool handsets and really the largest NETWORK if they can roam off verizon. CORRECT????????? thanks

rambofone said:
really..i did not know that..so you can roam on verizons network? use their network as your regular minutes? thats awesome..so you got the best with sprint cause they have cool handsets and really the largest NETWORK if they can roam off verizon. CORRECT????????? thanks

Somehow I find it hard to believe that one could use Verizon's superior network at no cost while a Sprint customer.

~Steve

It is true, What is more, Verizon customers can use Sprint's superior network for free where Verizon has no coverage of their own.
The two carriers have such a great reciprocal roaming agreement that it is cheap for both carriers.
With Sprint, however there is a MRC of $5.00 to use other networks. Sprint also will roam off of Cingular's analog, USCC's CDMA or analog, Alltel's CDMA or analog and any other local carrier, either cdma or analog, CDMA is preferable.

Guess I do actually learn something new everyday. 😁
I'm impressed - where does one obtain such knowledge?

~Steve

I know you can get a signal...but you dont get great signals everywhere. Verizon's coverage is excellent in a variety of areas, unlike sprint's which is good in some areas and very poor in others, just my thoughts. Happy new year errbody!!!

Depends on where you are. If you are in a large city or along a well traveled highway then coverage is just fine but if you are in a suburb or rural area then Sprints coverage can be spotty. Same with Tmobile.

amosjones said:
Behind the 8-ball is a very bad thing.

Because it means you are left out in nowhere land without a shot to take. If you shoot and hit the 8-ball, lose one turn.

Verizon is behind the 8-ball for 2 reasons.

1 They may have better coverage but the prices are higher. and most of your outer corn field and desert towers are not used often because no one lives out there.

2. They are playing Intel in the phone technology race. The come up with an Idea that is good, and very expensive. Someone else makes one that works better and cheaper. IE EV-DO, PTT

And yet they keep adding one and a half million subs per quarter. You may want to read the latest issue of Consumer Reports.

just got that issue today, it kills me that verizon is so good..i just wish another carrier could compete with their great coveage, mybe then we could have better selection of phones to choose from.

All I know is here in Orlando,FL I get much better reception with Cingular in more place than with Verizon. Plain and simple. If youn live in Orlando, FL get Cingular.

There will always be local anomalies where another carrier out covers Verizon. But overall Verizon's coverage is miles ahead of the rest. Their network is way better than anyone else's overall.
No one can win a coverage battle with Verizon, they have invested way too much into their network. That is not to say others coverage is bad, it is just not as good.

I could care less what Verizon says about their coverage. Cingular gets me reception in my house AND my grocery store. Two places Verizon got me nothing. I said nothing in my original post about national caverage. I said if you live in Orlando,FL get Cingular it's the best. You can take your national coverage BSelsewhere where it might actually mean something. I do remember reading somewhere that Cingulat has 100 of the top 100 markets. Something Verizon cannot say about their network.

Verizon has 96 of the top 100 markets and the remaining 4 are covered without roaming thru agreements with other carriers.

amosjones said:
Behind the 8-ball is a very bad thing.

Because it means you are left out in nowhere land without a shot to take. If you shoot and hit the 8-ball, lose one turn.

So, would being in front of the eight ball be good? I'm confused. If I'm behind the eight-ball and there's a pocket on the other side, then it's a straight-shot, right? Or ar we to assume that the eight-ball is on a rail, or far from a pocket.

I'm still confused as to why being "behind the eight-ball is a bad thing.

~Steve

Because you have to hit the 8 ball LAST. If you have one more ball left to sink and its BEHIND the 8 ball, you're pretty screwed. In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn, "Any o' this sinkin' in yet son?" 😁

trevor83 said:
Because you have to hit the 8 ball LAST. If you have one more ball left to sink and its BEHIND the 8 ball, you're pretty screwed. In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn, "Any o' this sinkin' in yet son?" 😁

AHHHHH... I think so.

So essentially, when one uses this statement "behind the eight-ball" it is a bad thing because we are assuming, that we are past the break, but somewhere towards the beginning or middle of the game. See I was assuming we were on the last shot of the game, and lining up the winning shot.
Confusing metaphor (or would it be an allusion) - I don't think I'll make a habit of using it. 😛

~Steve

Simple business will explain why the others are cheaper. Its because they're trying to draw business away from Verizon. If they were doing as well as Verizon they'd be charging comparable prices. Its easy to see. They did charge similar prices on many things until their net adds started paling in comparison. Then you started seeing all non Verizon carriers lowering share plans rates, making earlier unlimited nights start times, etc. Its not that they can do it cheaper, its that they're trying to generate business.