Motorola Q
Caution on using Slingbox!
I just got off the phone with a Verizon Wireless Rep. I asked him about the unlimited data plan and running slingbox on the Q. he said "If you run slingbox on the phone, your contract will be terminated and you will be charged a $175 termination fee, I have seen it happen". Apparently, I will be using so many Megabytes and according to the fine print in the contract, it voids my agreement.
This does not sound like "unlimited" data usage to me, but a loophole is a loophole.
This does not sound like "unlimited" data usage to me, but a loophole is a loophole.
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Yah, the unlimited part of that is basically false. Web browsing, email, low bandwidth items are all fair.
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I recently posted a new thread on this. Verizon WILL terminate your service for using a slingbox. Its a violation of the terms and conditions. The unlimited term refers to the amount of data total used, not the amount of tasks and uses allowed.
That being said, the TErm Fee is Automatic by the billing system but it is credited by policy for this one issue alone.
Best of luck!
That being said, the TErm Fee is Automatic by the billing system but it is credited by policy for this one issue alone.
Best of luck!
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Prety funny how you can now watch TV through Verizon's network, if you purchase THEIR service. I thought the network couldn't handle streaming video?
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I have absolutely had it with big business limiting our ability to utilize services they claim to provide. There has got to be a way for us to get full use of our service. To me this is the same as Verizon limiting the Q's Bluetooth capability to headsets only. Wireless is wireless, not just for headset, but for all data transfer. I would like to know if anyone has any ideas how we can make a change. I am totally fed up...
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I have absolutely had it with big business limiting our ability to utilize services they claim to provide. There has got to be a way for us to get full use of our service. To me this is the same as Verizon limiting the Q's Bluetooth capability to headsets only. Wireless is wireless, not just for headset, but for all data transfer. I would like to know if anyone has any ideas how we can make a change. I am totally fed up...
The bluetooth on the Q is not limited to headset only. I have transferred a multitude of files via BT using my Q and I have also used DUN and synced my Q with my laptop via BT. It also has A2DP for stereo BT support. Verizon didn't restrict the BT on the Q very much...
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I do agree with Backlash on the data usage. We should be able to run slingbox based on the fact that the plan is "UNLIMITED". Does Verizon need to look up the word unlimited in the dictionary? Hello???
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It is unlimted for normal usage. Streaming of any kind is not normal usage. Streaming requires constant utilization of bandwidth and will negatviely inpact other who are tryign to the there devises for there intended purpose. If you want to watch TV must get V-cast mobile TV, the actual shows are on at the actual time way better than having to another component to your home theater system.
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What would happen if you were at an all-you-can-eat buffet and they came to your table and told you that you had to leave. You ask why and they tell you that you've already had a big plate and they're running out of food. You can't go back for more because then there wont be enough for their other customers.
Not being prepared to deliver a product as advertised is not the customer's fault and should not be condoned.
Not being prepared to deliver a product as advertised is not the customer's fault and should not be condoned.
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backlash, I use my Q daily for all kinds of bluetooth data transfer. What limit have you encountered with bluetooth? keep in mind im asking you about bluetooth here and thats seperate from slingbox. I transfer all from image and video to audio and mp3, custom ringtones that I made, office docs, whatever. I ve done this with other Q's, pc's, other pda devices, all kinds of stuff. What have you not been able to do with your bluetooth?
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Im with you.. because your home connections supports so many activities, its natural to assume its the same regardless of what way you use to get to the net. And then the advertising says unlimited. Doesnt make sense does it. Heres what youre missing:
The slingbox does not get you cut off for reaching any data limit. therefore the unlimited terminology remains accurate. The slingbox gets you turned off because the action violates the terms and conditions of your contract. Remember that contract you signed? You put your john hancock on a legal document stating you abide by the terms and conditions. It is your responsibility (in the eyes of the law) to read what you sign. You know, like grandpa always did. Probly your parents, too.
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The slingbox does not get you cut off for reaching any data limit. therefore the unlimited terminology remains accurate. The slingbox gets you turned off because the action violates the terms and conditions of your contract. Remember that contract you signed? You put your john hancock on a legal document stating you abide by the terms and conditions. It is your responsibility (in the eyes of the law) to read what you sign. You know, like grandpa always did. Probly your parents, too.
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That's not our problem that they can't handle the usage, it's theirs. Don't say unlimited. And probably the only reason they get so offensive about it, is because their angry we're using someone else's services, which they know they can offer, they just don't feel like releasing it yet. Again, it's just big business not allowing the individuals to control capitalism. They want the control us. I am sure all of these services are available oversees without issue. Now, I'm not saying I'm going anywhere oversees, but it is frustrating that supposedly the most free country in the world is controlled by greed of Big Business.
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How is misleading advertising controlling capitalism? Part of the capitalism equation is that if you don't like the services offered you can go elsewhere. If no such market exists, create one. And to say that a market probably exists 1500+ miles away and should therefore exist in your location is silly.
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Backlash- nice marxist tirade. Please allow me to pick apart your post, point by ignorant point. And I will QUOTE you.
your point: "dont say unlimited"
their point: unlimited refers to amount of data. amounts of data are not limied and thats not the reason for shutoffs. Cancellations are for streaming video (in one example) or other limitation listed in the fine print that anyone who signs the agreement is legally responsible to read. The fact that you require something to be spelled out for you by a rep or written in red neon in order to understand does not diminish your responsibility to read what you sign.
your point: "...probably the only the get so offensive about it, is because their angry we're using someone else's servic...
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your point: "dont say unlimited"
their point: unlimited refers to amount of data. amounts of data are not limied and thats not the reason for shutoffs. Cancellations are for streaming video (in one example) or other limitation listed in the fine print that anyone who signs the agreement is legally responsible to read. The fact that you require something to be spelled out for you by a rep or written in red neon in order to understand does not diminish your responsibility to read what you sign.
your point: "...probably the only the get so offensive about it, is because their angry we're using someone else's servic...
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Well here is what I have to say,
1. you could buy a used (non-activated) xv6700 or a Wifi laptop, and use the WiFi to watch your sling from access points.
On one point brought up earlier was the cost of being dropped, the contract states "up-to" $175, so that means it is to Verizon to set the price, so they could drop you at $.015 or up to $175, they could also keep you, and start charging you for over limit data and start the cash flow till you go broke. either way they have your "dice" in their grips.
"If you dont like the way things are, change the way you think"
1. you could buy a used (non-activated) xv6700 or a Wifi laptop, and use the WiFi to watch your sling from access points.
On one point brought up earlier was the cost of being dropped, the contract states "up-to" $175, so that means it is to Verizon to set the price, so they could drop you at $.015 or up to $175, they could also keep you, and start charging you for over limit data and start the cash flow till you go broke. either way they have your "dice" in their grips.
"If you dont like the way things are, change the way you think"
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The up to $175 paved the way for the pro-rated termination fee, a policy that VZW now uses for new contracts signed after a certain date.
It is untrue that they can charge you for over limit data. I have thoroughly reviewed all the documentation that you sign to and all the terms and conditions. There is no limit on the amount of data and the plan that you sign up for allows unlimited data usage overall, so long as that data is not obtained using video and audio streaming and downloads. The FCC requires that any carrier lay out in print what you will be charged for and how. There is no "over limit data" charge in any literature regarding the unlimited data plan.
While there ARE ways to be nickled and dimed to death by ALL communicat...
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It is untrue that they can charge you for over limit data. I have thoroughly reviewed all the documentation that you sign to and all the terms and conditions. There is no limit on the amount of data and the plan that you sign up for allows unlimited data usage overall, so long as that data is not obtained using video and audio streaming and downloads. The FCC requires that any carrier lay out in print what you will be charged for and how. There is no "over limit data" charge in any literature regarding the unlimited data plan.
While there ARE ways to be nickled and dimed to death by ALL communicat...
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Wizzard: First off, I respect the fact that you are a former economics professor (assuming that you are telling the truth and I believe you). Let me make sure that I understand what you are saying and sum it up: You are allowed unlimited data as far as mobile web surfing goes (hence the unlimited claim). However, you are NOT allowed to stream video and if you do so, you are in violation and will be terminated. Am I correct? For the record, I have a bachelors in business and did take marco/micro economics. I only got a C. LOL
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Thank you, chris, for your professional demeanor. I Must admit I kinda went off on that one dood. It really doesnt take an ivy league education to grasp basic high school economics. honeslty i aced all economics with an A, near a 99 avg. I flunked nearly everything else, but hey Albert Einstein failed math classes 3 times and look at what he accomplished. moving on.
Yes, you essentially grasp the concept.
When you see the commercials that advertise the service, that fine print at the bottom that says 'conditions apply' is refrring to this issue. What they are referring to with unlimited is the amount of total data. they dont care about that. you will not be turned off for the amount of data you use. You will be turned off for strea...
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Yes, you essentially grasp the concept.
When you see the commercials that advertise the service, that fine print at the bottom that says 'conditions apply' is refrring to this issue. What they are referring to with unlimited is the amount of total data. they dont care about that. you will not be turned off for the amount of data you use. You will be turned off for strea...
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