LG VX-8100
Why are the new phones so sensative to moisture?
They are mobile phones are they not? I've had LG's for the past 6 years. 6 weeks ago I got my third phone. I had to replace a phone that was 3 1/2 years old as they said it had water damage. The phone came on and said the battery was dead. The counter tech at Verizon told me he believed it had water damage even though the moisture indicator didn't say so. O.K. whatever, I was due for a new phone. Got the 8100. It was in my closed backpack on my way from the parking lot into school in a rainstorm. It didn't take any direct hit. Now my headset is the only thing that will work for hearing but I cannot get a voice out. All else functions. O.K. it's water damage, maybe or that is the ultimate out. Shouldn't these things be slightly water resista...
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Any electronic device will not fair well with moisture. I'd say unless it got soaking wet through your backpack that something else is probably wrong with it. You have a 1 year man. warranty, so you can get it replaced at your local Verizon store.
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Thats weird dude, i work in a meat dept at a local ralphs and i gotta use the hose to clean it EVERY night. I get pretty wet, all the while listening to my mp3's in my front pocket. Sure i dun directly spray water on me but it still goes everywhere and never have i had a problem. In addition, my phone get pretty wet to its not like it stays totally dry, still no problems. I make phones calls at work with wets hands while spraying water everywhere and still no problems...get my point? Maybe u just got a bad phone.
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dimmy said:
Thats weird dude, i work in a meat dept at a local ralphs and i gotta use the hose to clean it EVERY night. I get pretty wet, all the while listening to my mp3's in my front pocket. Sure i dun directly spray water on me but it still goes everywhere and never have i had a problem. In addition, my phone get pretty wet to its not like it stays totally dry, still no problems. I make phones calls at work with wets hands while spraying water everywhere and still no problems...get my point? Maybe u just got a bad phone.
They install litmus paper on the phones now. If it is activated their position is all warranties are null and void. My litmus is activated but the phone never directly recieved any ...
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yeah and they should warany phones that are smashed or lost as well, those gready punks! Water damage is a tricky thing, i left a phone in a puddle for a whole hour because i knocked off my belt clip when it was raining. took the phone apart and used a hair dryer and everyhting was great. had one get wet in my pocket when it was rainging and the whole phone crapped out, i think comes down to luck
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One of my friends was having problems with his phone that he'd had for over a year. The VZW tech took the phone apart and told him that it'd been exposed to water. After much debate, it turns out that just from facial sweating and natural skin oils the phone was "exposed to moisture."
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What up J-Dog? I'm telling you, water-proof casings man. It's the way to go. Big money. 😉
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ha! how have you been. Think that is still a good idea, i need money to start that business.
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Well it turned out I was all wet from the information I got on the internet about the moisture litmus. I read the moisture litmus comes as a white sheet of paper if activated it turns pink. Mine was pink although the 6 week old phone had never been exposed to water. Turns out the moisture litmus is white with a pink pattern. If the pattern gets filled in and totally pink or the pimk pattern gets fuzzy that indicates water damage. My phone was not water damaged and was replaced.
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IF THE BATTERY SHOWS PINK DOES IT MEAN YOU HAVE WATER DAMAGE? IF THE BATTERY IS STILL WORKING, CAN YOY USE IT IN ANOTHER PHONE OR COULD IT CAUSE DAMAGE?
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Theres a little indicator sticker (litmus paper) on the battery and inside the phone that usually has a pink/red pattern. If it is still there, that means no water damage. If it dissappears then that is how you can tell it has been exposed to water.
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not only is the litmus paper a moisture detector, but it also hides an OEM battery circuit detector that will prevent you from replacing the battery with an aftermarket brand. Pretty tricky, huh?? When the phone has stopped being manufactured, the batteries will be too and you will have to replace the phone because of an inability to find batteries for it. SHAME, SHAME on you VERIZON..
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Why shame on Verizon? You shouldn't put an aftermarket battery in any phone on any carrier. I'm sure the other carriers work this way too.
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NOPE! THEY DO NOT. IF YOU BOUGHT A CAR, WOULD YOU EXPECT TO HAVE TO BUY A BATTERY FROM THEM WHEN IT WENT BAD? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO, SAY, ADVANCE AND BUY A BATTERY FROM THEM THAT EXCEEDED THE SPECS ON THE OEM BATTERY. BESIDES, LOOK UNDER THE HOOD OF YOUR VEHICLE AND SEE IF THE BATTERY HAS THE MAKE OF YOUR VEHICLE ON IT. AFTERMARKET BATTS GO THRU THE SAME TESTING AND MANUFACTURING PROCEDURES AS OEM; IN FACT AFTERMARKET BATTS ARE ALSO MADE BY THE SAME COMPANIES THAT MAKE THE OEM'S. THE PHONE IN QUESTION IS THE VX8100-SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR VERIZON TO THEIR EXACT SPECS.AGAIN, SHAME ON YOU VERIZON.
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I have said it before and will say it again, STOP COMPARING PHONES TO CARS-IT IS NOT THE SAME THING PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
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You are right. It is Verizon and the 8100. With my 7000, I could use aftermarket batteries. I have tried two aftermarket batteries with the 8100 and neither have worked.
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THEY GOT YOU TOO, HUH? GREAT PHONE, GUARANTEED INCOME FROM BATTERIES FOR LG(VERIZON). HAS ANYBODY CONTACTED THE FTC TO SEE IF THIS IS LEGAL??
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guyfixit said:
THEY GOT YOU TOO, HUH? GREAT PHONE, GUARANTEED INCOME FROM BATTERIES FOR LG(VERIZON). HAS ANYBODY CONTACTED THE FTC TO SEE IF THIS IS LEGAL??
Are you retaded? I think so with all the caps... LG has nothing to do with Verizon other than making phones for their network. Verizon has nothing to do with the manufacture of the phones other than allowing them on the network.
If LG was part of Verizon, why would there be LG phones for Sprint, Cingular, AllTel, USCellular, CellularOne/Western Wireless, Qwest, Telus Mobility, and Metro PCS just to name a few North American carriers....
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I just have another point to throw out there to slap down that idiotic statement on lg batteries. Look at any electronic device that comes with rechargable battery pack, digital cameras, almost all cell phones, laptops, cordless phones, crap even my remote control car's manual all say use only batteries specified from the manufacturer, manufacturer will not cover damage incurred when using an unauthorized battery or charger. So the point of the fact is don't throw crappy cheap aftermarket batteries into your expensive electronics and go crying when your crap explodes in a ball of fire. I have Duracell batteries in my remote, what do you have, are you the guy that goes to the dollar store and buys those volt AA batteries in the twelve pack fo...
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You must be real cash strapped if you NEED to buy an aftermarket battery..
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i used an aftermarket battery in my phone, no prob. The crappy aires ones will not work well in the 8100, but work fine in the 3200,3300,5200,6100. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL YOU ON HERE THAT VERIZON DOES NOT MAKE THE PHONES OR THE ACCESSORIES THE MANUFACTURER DOES! as far as aftermarket battery goes it is only a matter of time. I am sure aires and digicell and all those cheap ass third party companies will figuere it out and get something working. Here is my question since you used a car example. You buy a brand new We will say Lotus Elise for around $50 dollars! I for one would not buy some crappy walmart labeled battery and throw it there I would buy a quality battery for it! You have a phone worth 100s of $ why do you want some ch...
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i disagree mary. when people can do things like use aftermarket batteries, among other things, it creates competition. so just for instance on this battery thing. if say samsung makes an extended life aftermarket battery for this thing that works great. lg/verizon might sell thier normal battery for 20 bucks less than they do now.
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nope! their are plenty of aftermarket batteries out there that work great and are available for multiple different models. Just an fYI but the cost between an aftermarket battery and an oem battery is only $8. I know, I am an agent we carry oem and aftermarket products. Verizon sets the price just like they do on cla and all accessories. The cost of an oem battery is around $23 cost on cheap aftermarket runs about $15. I for one would pay the extra $8 bucks and get the oem one. As far as samsung making an lg battery that would be different, it would be of equal quality so the price would run about the same. Lg batteries cost us no more than nokia, motorola or samsung batteries. In all honesty the lg battteris are less expensive then oem moto...
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Ok enough of this already. Number one....don't blame Verizon. Have a problem with how the phone is made? Fair enough....can't please everyone all the time. But FYI...phones are made by manufacturers, not by verizon. So please be informed enough to not bash verizon for a product that they didn't build. They are in a sense just like a reseller....as in radioshack or bestbuy....neither one of them make phones either, yet they sell them, and when someone gets their phone wet, no one says "Well best buy should make a better phone! some food for thought.
Second...aftermarket batteries. People get a clue. Aftermarket batteries work in this phone, and incased you haven't noticed, the OEM battery in the lg 8100 is the same battery that's in the l...
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Second...aftermarket batteries. People get a clue. Aftermarket batteries work in this phone, and incased you haven't noticed, the OEM battery in the lg 8100 is the same battery that's in the l...
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Ok enough of this already. Number one....don't blame Verizon. Have a problem with how the phone is made? Fair enough....can't please everyone all the time. But FYI...phones are made by manufacturers, not by verizon. So please be informed enough to not bash verizon for a product that they didn't build. They are in a sense just like a reseller....as in radioshack or bestbuy....neither one of them make phones either, yet they sell them, and when someone gets their phone wet, no one says "Well best buy should make a better phone! some food for thought.
Second...aftermarket batteries. People get a clue. Aftermarket batteries work in this phone, and incased you haven't noticed, the OEM battery in the
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littledrummerboy said:
What do you mean?
i'm just givin you crap, that was a good statement.
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Aftermarket batteries do not work in the 8100 though for some reason. Not sure why they work in all the other lg's, but I have tried quite a few and haven't found one that works. I never believed it til I kept trying different ones.
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Yeah the crappy aires batteries make the phone say invalid battery, but work fne on the 3200,3300'5200,6100.. go figure? As far as moisture goes, I absolutely love when people come in screaming at me about their phone and it is water damaged. Had a lady the other day, 8100 says car kit, checked the marker and it had not been triggered, so i looked at serial port, totally green and crusty. She swore she never got it wet and went on this long annoying rant about how verizon sells crappy equipment and we don't back it up and she wanted a free replacement and blahblahblah, well during her rant her 1 year old kid picks up the phone while she is ripping me one and sticks the bottom of it in her mouth and starts sucking on it, she looks over at her...
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I know just how you guys feel! I live in a college town, and our store is right by campus, other then all the exchange students that don't talk English the worst part of this job is the stupid people. Its always our fault that they treat their phones like crap. I had one lady come in and want to know why her phone was in car-Kit. I had to scrape peanut butter out of the port! she had no idea how it got there, when I handed the phone back to her she handed it right back to her 2 year-old to play with! I wonder where the peanut butter came from?? My favorite is....my phone just stopped working last night when I was out....no I don't remember much about last night.......I NEVER GOT MY PHONE WET!!!....I'm not sure why it smells like beer.....its...
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better bear than the toilet!!!!! I love when people hand me their phones then tell me they dropped it in the crapper 👿
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yeahright said:
better bear than the toilet!!!!! I love when people hand me their phones then tell me they dropped it in the crapper 👿
thats, um, a pretty, um, crappy situation! 😈
there i said it.
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Wake up littledrummerboy.
Verizon spec'd which features work and how when the custom firmware full of Verizon logos was written by LG.
Verizon decided whether file transfer via Bluetooth would be active.
Verizon supports the phone with lame, difficult-to-use stuff like the Verizon pix web site.
Sorry dude, I blame Verizon for it all. They are the folks that should've had the foresight to understand if this handset in their implementation would be helpful, useful, or difficult to use.
Only in the case of some pure hardware issue like the battery, display, buttons, etc. can you say that Verizon has no part in it. However, don't you think that Verizon should have gotten some demo units and figured out if the phone was of sufficie...
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Verizon spec'd which features work and how when the custom firmware full of Verizon logos was written by LG.
Verizon decided whether file transfer via Bluetooth would be active.
Verizon supports the phone with lame, difficult-to-use stuff like the Verizon pix web site.
Sorry dude, I blame Verizon for it all. They are the folks that should've had the foresight to understand if this handset in their implementation would be helpful, useful, or difficult to use.
Only in the case of some pure hardware issue like the battery, display, buttons, etc. can you say that Verizon has no part in it. However, don't you think that Verizon should have gotten some demo units and figured out if the phone was of sufficie...
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the blueetooth 🙄 everyones pathetic little trump card when they can't make a sensible argumanet towards the current topic. And why bash on the way verizon set up pix place? Um buy a card and card reader and take them off that way, or get a data cable and bitpim, or just send them to your email address? Verizon has given you multiple ways to get your photos off, why cry about that? As far as quality goes, the only real complaint i ever had were the echoe and camera delay issues that earlier software verisions had, other than that this has the lowest return rate of any other model we carry at my locations. We have sold 100's of these in 6 months and I can count the number of actual true waranty problems on one hand, that is far better tha...
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Am I understanding you right..? you're saying that there is a fix to the huge camera delay? I have the LGVX8100 ver07 and I hate using the camera due to the delay... please enlighten me...
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yeah their is still a little bit of a camera delay, i will not argue that, but it has improved greatly over previous software versions. The 8000 still has the best camera and the 9800 is better than the 8000, but the camera on the 8100 is still pretty darn good. All in all this is a great phone, I have had a ton of different new models, 710,815,razr, 7000,8000,8100 and out of all of those the 8100 would rank first in my opinion in an overall score. Yes I can do things on my motos I can't do on lg and vice versa. But after using all of these and selling a ton of these the lg is my pick, best build quality out there. We can pick anything apart if you look close enough, nothing is ever going to be perfect but this is a great phone and i just ge...
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In regards to the camera, you have to sacrafice some resolution to shorten the delay. If you drop it down to 640x480, the delay is minimal. Granted it's still there, but after all, it is a phone. I would think if I was that upset over picture quailty, I would have gone to best buy or somewhere and bought a digital camera. Not trying to be smart alec, just logical.
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I agree, and I do have a nice digital camera... only problem... is that I never seem to have my camera handy... yea, if I go to Disneyland or someplace like that, of course I bring the good one, but most the time I'm just out and about and find myself wishing I had my digital... so I really can't complain... its certainly better than no camera... one last note... I was just at a wedding and one of the things people were chatting about and laughing is how all their digital cameras take pics of people turning their heads or starting to walk away... so my point is even the good ones have some delay...
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