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WE ARE SLAVES!

gudgen

Jul 25, 2005, 12:51 AM
ITS NO DOUBGHT THAT WE ARE ALL SLAVES TO VERIZON. THEY DO HAVE GREAT SERVICE AND RECEPTON AND CDMA (CODE DIVISION MULTIPLE ACCESS) IS SUPPERIOR TO GSM OR TDMA OR OTHERS.
BUT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN THE END VERIZON CUSTOMERS PAY ON THE AVERAGE 15 TO 23% HIGHER
RATES THAT ANY OTHER CARRIER THIS IS DISTURBING
I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU WE ARE GETTING RAPED
AND IT SEEMS THERES NOTHING WE CAN DO?
AND I PERSONALLY THINK GOING TO GET IT NOW FOR A RING TONE IS JUST PLAIN STUPID WHY PAY FOR WHAT I CAN GET FREE .......MAN THAT PISSES ME
OFF GET WITH THE TIMES VERIZON I THINK IF ENOUGH PEOPLE BOYCOTT GET IT NOW AND ITS NOT MAKING THEM ANY MONEY THEY WOULD BE FORCED TO
DUMP THERE DEAL WITH THEM. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
LET ME KNOW. IM PISSED
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drynyks

Jul 25, 2005, 1:36 AM
What an annoying post.

"AND IT SEEMS THERES NOTHING WE CAN DO?"

Yea there is something you can do. Go with a different wireless provider and post your capitol letters on that forum.

"AND I PERSONALLY THINK GOING TO GET IT NOW FOR A RING TONE IS JUST PLAIN STUPID WHY PAY FOR WHAT I CAN GET FREE"

It is free if you can read and follow some instructions.
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gudgen

Jul 25, 2005, 2:31 AM
I AGREE WITH PEOPLE AND YOU START FIGHTS!
GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND START YOUR FIGHTS YOUNG
MAN THIS IS A FRIENDLY FORUM AND ITS GOING TO STAY THAT WAY,I WAS JUST STATING FACTS. NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY MAD. IT APPEARS YOU WERE BORN MAD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE LIKE A BAR
OR SOMETHING,OK
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Sequoia225

Jul 25, 2005, 2:54 AM
Why let yourself be annoyed by such a harmless thing?!

Why are you more welcome than anyone else here. Youre the one attacking someone else on a personal level. Are you the owner of this forum?

Or do you just not like someone having the freedom to think and speak their thoughts. There are many in this country like that. But thats not freedom really.

lay off.
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drynyks

Jul 25, 2005, 12:47 PM
"Youre the one attacking someone else on a personal level"

A bit dramatic don't you think? Maybe you should go reread my post. See the problem is that since gudgen was yellin the whole time (with caps) you just assumed I was yelling back =p To me when people type an entire message in caps it is annoying. It hurts to read.

"What an annoying post."
"post your capitol letters on that forum"

Look at that crazy attack!
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Sequoia225

Jul 25, 2005, 12:53 PM
Hey, My apologies drynyks. I took your "annoying" to mean his content (which I found very legitimate) as his capitols went right by me without a problem.
And I just had recently gotten attacked for trying to help people here so I was on the defense.

forgive me.

carry on.

🙂
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Pe_Ell

Jul 25, 2005, 3:14 AM
I would tend to agree with drynyks. I come to the forums in search for information. Not to see people's rants.

I have to use the search to find most anything useful as a result of lots of people just posting random crap. Not to mention that all caps is just dumb. You can't "yell" in text other than to add a ! at the end of the sentence.

This is nothing personal against gudgen. It's just an observation about forums and their general uses. They should be useful and somewhat organized tools for archiving information unless stated as being some public forum without a topic.

I'm only opinionated about this because I help run a few forums across the net and I have to deal with cleaning forums daily. 🙂

I was also disappointed th...
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gudgen

Jul 25, 2005, 3:16 AM
i found the fix for the front buttons.
yaaa! 🤣
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Pe_Ell

Jul 25, 2005, 3:24 AM
As in you got them to work with the hidden media player? If so, what was it? I haven't searched for that yet. Thanks.
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Sequoia225

Jul 25, 2005, 12:57 PM
I think the "rant" was more legitimate phone conversation than all the bogus reviews I have discovered and pointed out in just a few days exploring this forum. This forum is filled with a bunch of kids it seems like that just want to see themselves fool others about the phones.

I point this waste of space out and I get flamed for it.


why dont you go after those. Way more of a waste of all of our time.
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Sequoia225

Jul 25, 2005, 2:49 AM
I agree and disagree.
We are not slaves. We choose this. Thats whats great about freedom (though personally I dont know if random searches through New Yorks subways is totally freedom.

But back to cell phones, I have many friends without cell phones altogether. They are quite happy in their lives. no one is making us pay any money towards phones we arent willing to.

I personally will not at all pay for this Vcast service. 15 more dollars a month??!!
Who NEEDS that service?! Why do I need to be "connected" to that video service?!
Cant people get AWAY from their TV sets to do other things and experience the world instead of watching what some rich idiot thinks you want to spend your time paying attention to?
Go out and LIVE your ...
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gudgen

Jul 25, 2005, 3:02 AM
ya you know what they say as individuals we are smart as a whole we are somewhat less.
we are individuals and make our choices as such
and thats partly how money is made.we dont all choose the same thing or there would be just one global corp giving us all the same material. yes we can make choices like me i choose to have cell service and no landline
got sick of getting solicitation crap calls.
i love that verizon is not letting soliciters
have our numbers not true with other carriers.
actually im glad nothings perfect gives us all
something to work on,otherwise life would be
pretty dull,thank for the eye opener 😉
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coasterguy

Jul 25, 2005, 7:37 AM
The whole world revolves around money! That's life pal.
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NY8100GUYS

Jul 25, 2005, 8:56 AM
There's no problem with money. The problem is GREED and RIPOFF. 😲
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Vatothe0

Jul 25, 2005, 11:26 AM
Why don't people spend half this effort trying to make changes that matter? Why not write one of these tirades to a congressman about the amount of taxes charges on wireless service? Or any real social issue? Do these same people complain about their employer trying to make money? Spend days on forums complaining about how their insurance premium went up $100/year?

It's a cellphone, if you're that unhappy, go away to some other carrier.
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Sequoia225

Jul 25, 2005, 1:04 PM
I do the things you suggest above. I am involved in the Sierra Club and currently fighting a developer from developing some of the little bit of open land near where I live on terrain that isnt safe to build on anyway. Many things Im involved in that perhaps you would consider "real social issues".
But one can only do so much with their time.

I feel communication is a huge step in all this and that is what I had time to do about this issue brought up here on this forum. If my post gets one person to decide he wont pay for ringtones, or Vcast, or whatever, isnt that doing something?
Its not as simple as going to another carrier. As the large companies all buy out the smaller carriers, there is less and less competition and the compani...
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jreisner

Jul 25, 2005, 9:39 AM
Excellent post. This is the first post I have read on this forum that has motivated me to DO SOMETHING.

After reading that article by Jonathan Zdziarski at Nuclear Elephant, I am enraged at Verizon's attitude towards us hapless consumers and I feel that we ARE slaves to a certain extent. I feel cheated and there is no question that if we all just roll over and play dead on this they will continue to do it and it will get worse.

When I bought the V710 last summer I was excited to finally be able to have the best coverage with some of the best equipment on the market at that time. I was disappointed in the quality of the handset, but I blamed Motorola not Verizon. In fact Verizon is so good at covering up their schemes that no one ever b...
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Sequoia225

Jul 25, 2005, 1:10 PM
Cheers to you! And I literally just stumbled on that letter kind of by accident yesterday trying to search the net on how many wireless subscribers Verizon has.

(Im not even gonna vouge (sp?) for the accuracy of that letter as I just found it and know nothing about it other than the text I read in it - but it was interesting)

Remember way back when it was all so much simpler and phones just called people, Verizon was Airtouch, and subscription options were plentiful??

ha ha, that was only 5 years ago. Man things move fast!!
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jreisner

Jul 25, 2005, 2:39 PM
Yeah, I remember those simpler days when multi-featured handheld devices were only seen in Sci-Fi flicks. Of course, technology doesn't improve without a price. Cell phones today are way more reliable than they were 5 years ago, at least servicewise.
Still, if we want the best service and the best phones and the latest technology and we are willing to pay for it, we have a right to get what we're paying for and no less.
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wheresmyphone

Jul 25, 2005, 2:21 PM
I love seeing Sprint users get phones LOADED up with free games, exciting ringtones, newest phones, etc... while I can't use the front buttons on my phone.
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